Apolyton ExtraCivs Pack: Spanish Unique Unit

[Jay Bee]

And after writing that you dare to ask me what's my point?

[Frank Johnson]

oh come on have some fun.

We will have a list of stereotypical special units.

The Japanese can have sucicide fighters, the Chinese can have teenaged AK47 mob, we can add mexicans can give them a 20 sheild settler, and we'll have good 'ole cowboys since that's what everyone over thinks its like here.

maybe civ would have been better if we enbraced the political incorrectness.

[Jay Bee]

[Der PH]

Re: No Spain!!!

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I would also question the idea of including Spain in the game. Its cultural influence throughout history was not all that great, and their role as a major country was only very short.

Spain's cultural influence throughout history was not all that great???

Aah, I understand!
That's the reason for nearly all middle- and south-american nations to have Spanish as their native language!

[Fiera]

I also think that should Firaxis add the Spanish, they'd put the Conquistador as their unique unit, and the Conquistador will surely win this poll, but I'd like to point out that, IMO, the historical Conquistadors don't realte to Civ units, but rather to Civ leaders.

So if we have Pizarro and Cortés as Spanish Great Leaders, we already have Conquistadors in the game, and we can have the Tercios as the Spanish unique unit.

[orange]

Re: No Spain!!!

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I would also question the idea of including Spain in the game. Its cultural influence throughout history was not all that great, and their role as a major country was only very short.

you MUST be joking.

[Jay Bee]

Originally posted by Fiera
I also think that should Firaxis add the Spanish, they'd put the Conquistador as their unique unit, and the Conquistador will surely win this poll, but I'd like to point out that, IMO, the historical Conquistadors don't realte to Civ units, but rather to Civ leaders.

So if we have Pizarro and Cortés as Spanish Great Leaders, we already have Conquistadors in the game, and we can have the Tercios as the Spanish unique unit.

IMO, I'd say you hit the center of the nail The conquistador was not a particular type of soldier, the tercio was.
I was also expecting the conquistador to win this poll. What actually disappointed me was/is the very low number of votes for the tercios. We conducted a similar survey a few weeks ago over the Spanish Civ site Forum and the tercio won.

[Locutus]

Re: Re: Conquistador or Tercio?

Originally posted by Jay Bee
The result of this poll is a bit disappointing.

I feel you, Jay Bee. But I guess that's the irony of history: it's always written by the victor and Spain is not among present-day's victors... Well, if it's any comfort, I *did* vote for the Tercios

[Jay Bee]

Thanks Locutus Conquistadors were also Tercios after all

[Der PH]

Probably the reason for these voting results is that everybody knows the Conquistadors in opposition to the tercio. At least I heard this name for the first time reading this thread.

BTW I voted for the galleon, a huge transport vessel with high defensive power, that allows extensive invasions from the sea.

[Martinus]

Re: No Spain!!!

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I would also question the idea of including Spain in the game. Its cultural influence throughout history was not all that great, and their role as a major country was only very short.

Wow. What a BS

[sachmo71]

hehe. Spanish. No cultural influence. hehe

[Iron Chef]

How about some kind of increased Galleon or Frigate? Maybe a Galleon with increased movement and carrying capacity (to reflect the great achievements of the Spanish in exploration) or a more powerful Frigate (Spanish Armada)?

[gussman]

Re: No Spain!!!

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I would also question the idea of including Spain in the game. Its cultural influence throughout history was not all that great, and their role as a major country was only very short.

If you want to add a civ, the Ottomans are really the ones missing!

Yes, It's well known that the Ottomans were much more powerful than spanish civ... ha, ha, ha, You're very funny!!!

Well, I prefer the 'tercio' special unit, even a special naval unit would be fine too.
The 'tercio' were units used to fight far away from home, but I don't know how could this capability be represented. May be no support cost (just an idea).

[Estilpón]

Re: No Spain!!!

Originally posted by Oncle Boris
I would also question the idea of including Spain in the game. Its cultural influence throughout history was not all that great, and their role as a major country was only very short.

If you want to add a civ, the Ottomans are really the ones missing!