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**mactbone** · October 31, 2001, 08:19

You forgot the generic leaders.

GENERIC
Brian Handly
Sid Meier
Jeff Briggs
Soren Johnson
Steve Chao
Jeff Morris
Foertchemon
Kevin Margo
Beer
Jake Solomon
Alex Kim
Jerome A
Dave Evans
Nick RB

**Gangerolf** · October 31, 2001, 09:17

China:
Kublai Khan
Ghengis Kahn

Does this mean that Firaxis consider they have included the Mongols within the Chinese civ? In other words: no Mongols in an XP? Or no XP plans at all?

**Buck Birdseed** · October 31, 2001, 15:40

I personally find the mix of real historical and totally fictional characters amusing. Plus the mix of ineffectual figureheads, historical unknowns, mass murderers and alcoholic drinks.

**Jools** · October 31, 2001, 17:56

Q: Why are most of the Russians leaders Soviet Generals or Statesmen?

**monolith94** · October 31, 2001, 22:48

They'll put in Stalin but they won't put in Rommell????

How politically correct of them. . .

**Dr. Nick** · October 31, 2001, 23:26

No Guderian? No Rommel? No Kesselring?

**d_dudy** · October 31, 2001, 23:43

Tojo, that's um.......yeah

well i guess he did get them out of their mess

everyone else seems cool. where did they get so many damn aztecs?

**Sarxis** · November 1, 2001, 01:39

Originally posted by El Awrence
No Guderian? No Rommel? No Kesselring?

Edit them- its super easy in the editor.

**jdd2007** · November 1, 2001, 18:47

Babylon:
Agum
Sargon
Sumuabum
Ashurbanipal
Naboplasser
Nebuchadnezzar

have heard of one of these people, guess which.

Zulu:
Mpande
Zwelithini
Dingane
Cetshwayo

cant even pronounce these names, much less know who they were...

Aztecs:
Acamapichtli
Axayacatl
Tizoc
Huitzilhuitl
Chimalpopoca
Maxtla
Nezahualcóyotl
Nezahualpilli

some of these look familiar, but why so many?

France:
Napoleon
Richelieu
De Gaulle
Charlemagne

excellent choices....

**Delthayre** · November 1, 2001, 22:10

Leaders

Well, this is a bit of let down.

The Germans should have Rommel. Not only was he a great General, he was actually a decent man. Not exactly one you could group with the rest of the anti-semite Nazi maniacs.

Boudicea, BOUDICEA, the name is spelled Boudicca and she was Celt, I really don't think she belongs with the English at all.

**DonJoel** · November 2, 2001, 14:38

They'll put in Stalin but they won't put in Rommell????

Exaktly!!! And i bet the other civs leaders that you havent heard of before isnt better moraly anyway.

**Andrew_Jay** · November 2, 2001, 21:41

The same thought hit me while reading the list, no Rommel? I suppose you could put your own in though. I figures they might have been afraid of controversy, but then I saw the Russians . . . of Stalin, Lenin and Trotsky, Trotsky is the only real military leader.
But anyway, it's not that important. Anyone know if the list can be safely edited?
And by the way, civ 3 has auto save right? I'm only here because it just crashed a few minutes ago with some dll error, I hadn't saved in a looong time, my own fault I suppose.

**Wernazuma III** · November 3, 2001, 04:25

Re: Complete list of leaders, gleaned from editor

Maximus

argh, bow down to almighty Hollywood

Hengest
Horsa

WTF, do YOU know them? Why no Rommel, why no Blüchert?

Hector
Ajax
Ulysess

So many historical leaders, why pick Homer's mythical heroes?

Oh I forgot, we have the editor

**Faboba** · November 3, 2001, 06:19

And along the lines pf Gengis becomming Chinese - Boudicea and Wallace as English????? What the ****?

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