Is it English or British?

[Dauphin]

This is not a question of who it should be, but of who it is.

The screenshots say Britain and British, and many people have refered to a British civ. However the official civ of the week listing is English.

So is it a hybrid, or is it definitely one or the other?

Do we know for sure yet?

[Ecthy]

oh well, it should be English

honestly, when I read the thread title I thought you wanted a historical debate... now that you say it I have no idea... I think the screenshots are of different age, so the programmers might have changed it in the meantime or something like that.. who knows... and who cares, the first thing I'm going to do is changing the files, just after my first game

[Gothmog]

Big Crunch

Although it is not true, in most American's mind British and English are synonymous. Did you create your avatar to illustrate this confusion or is that an actual flag?

[Ecthy]

he did it to troll me in the OT

*kills Gothmog*

*while falling down from the wall/house/whatever, gothmog takes Ecthelion with him*

*both Ecthelion and Gothmog die*

*battle of Gondolin is lost though*

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Gothmog
Although it is not true, in most American's mind British and English are synonymous.

Does that mean that Firaxis should propagate the myth?

If you call an Englishman, English or British, he won't mind, BUT there is a distinction just like there is between calling him a European or an Englishman.

[Christantine The Great]

BUT there is a distinction just like there is between calling him a European or an Englishman.

Unless they managed to attach some very big motors to their island and sail away they're Europeans, too. I see what you mean though (You don't walk down the streets of Europe calling everyone Europeans normally).

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Christantine The Great


Unless they managed to attach some very big motors to their island and sail away they're Europeans, too. I see what you mean though (You don't walk down the streets of Europe calling everyone Europeans normally).

If you have civ "the English" you would not refer to the nation as Britain just as you would not refer to it as Europe. English is a subset, something that is English is also British (and is also European), but the reverse is not true. Just ask any Scot!!!!!

[Gothmog]

Originally posted by Big Crunch
Does that mean that Firaxis should propagate the myth?

No, I'm for accuracy. The sad part is that Firaxis is clueless about many of these issues. I hope they write their computer code better than they do history.

[kIndal]

If somebody are interested in this, I believe that some time ago, somebody opened a thread with the same topic

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by kIndal
If somebody are interested in this, I believe that some time ago, somebody opened a thread with the same topic

I posted in both of them.

This thread is different, just, as it is a discussion of who is in as opposed to who should be in.

[Gangerolf]

Big Crunch: Is your avatar English or British?

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Gangerolf
Big Crunch: Is your avatar English or British?

Yes it is.

[Kedryn]

I love your avatar... how it removes the Irish cross, then the Scottish one until all that is left is the cross of St. George. Kind of like... an Act of Disunion.

[Dinner]

I have no idea why but people just can't seem to figure out the difference between someone who is English and someone who is British. I've been trying to correct this everytime I see it but I think I've been pissing into the wind on this one.

[StarBegotten]

It doesn't help that the English themselves confuse the issue by using the terms "English" and "British" interchangably.
To most people in England they are one and the same idea, because the rest of Britian (Wales, Scotland and Norhtern Ireland) don't count, presumeably!

For me (a Scot) I feel more Scottish than British. I don't identify myself with the British flag, National Anthem or Royal Family, despite growing up with them.

I don't even know what the "official" Scottish National Anthem is supposed to be! It's the popular song "Flower of Scotland" as far as I am concered (you know the one everyone sings at football matches!).