Can Greeks build Hoplites from turn 1?

[Fiil]

Yep, Greeks can build hoplites from turn one!!

[albiedamned]

Interesting. I go to sleep wondering if anyone will reply to me on this thread about whether the Greeks can build Hoplites from turn 1. I wake up to read an interesting but completely off-topic discussion of the origin of computers!

As someone mentioned, there is no Bronze resource. So I'm pretty sure there is no resource requirement at all for Hoplites. And the Greeks definitely have Bronze Working as a starting tech. So I believe I am correct - the Greeks can build Hoplites right away.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Bronze is an alloy of Copper, Nickel and Tin, and as such will be very difficult to find deposits of it And to not complicate things, Copper, Nickel and Tin are not strategic resources.

Dan confirmed that Hoplites (and any bronze units) dont require resources, after someone else suggested that they needed a 'bronze deposit'

At several points, "Bronze" was mentioned as a required resource. This was a couple of months ago.

[KrazyHorse]

Just checked http://www.civ3.com/civoftheweek.cfm?civ=Greeks

By virtue of them not mentioning resources, I'm going to assume that now the spearman and hoplite require no resources.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

To crack codes Bletchey Park also hooked up several Enigmas (or computers not sure which) and made a Bombe which could rapidly calculate and figure out those German intercepts

[Jer8m8]

About the first computer: Isn't the abacus a computing machine? A friend of mine has a picture in his house that calls it the first computer. It's a lot older than anything the Brithish used in WW2.

[player1]

Originally posted by VetteroX
I will defenetly play my first game as America, undecided on world map or random, but I guess im just a patriot. ( no not from recent happenings, I usually chose to be America in civ1/2 ctp1/2.) I dont like that America is Industrious/expansionist they should have been industrious/economic or industrious/scientific. I mean come on, expansionist is weak compaired to the other traits. get an explorer at the start and slightly better hut bonus from the start? wow.. yay. And why is America expansionistic? wow... so we populated North America from east to west.... who wouldnt? By 1840's we were at the west coast, then I think in the 1940's or 50's we go Alaska and Hawii, and we have a few military bases in other countries, big deal. Europe cononized America, Africa, took teritories in Asia. Rome isnt expansionist I belive... whats with that? They only held like all of europe, some of asia and africa at their hieght, thats not expansionist? America should have been Industrious (totaly agree) and Commercial or Scientific.

Actually I think that AMERCAINS are VERY POWERFULL.
At FIRST because of expansionistic ablity, when other civs have 2 cities you will have 4 cities, an army and better science, wich will probable make you a very powerfull civ for the whole game. And INDUSTRIOUS is one of the best abilities, wich will make you build settlers quicker.
I remember one MP game in CIV2, one player hav 2 settler at the start & others just one.
He had the lead through all game!
Expansionistic Bonus is just something similar.

I would normally play Americans (from gameplay poiont), but since I don't like playing Americans (I WON't give you a resons, this is not an appropirate thread) I would probaly play some other civ.

Personally, best civs (non militarisic) are French (all aroud), Americans (for settling), Persians (all aroud but better science) and Greeks (for science freaks).