Elizabeth...... what has become of thee....

[Faboba]

Could I just say first that this is the first hint of pessemism to cross my lips yet so I feel I'm entitled.

I was dismayed to see picture of the modern elizabeth ( see attahed ) appearing as some strange 'artiste' type Berret-et-all and could I just voice my protest that she could not be dressed as a sensible modern leader, in a suit ( like a certain female prime minister used to...... ) like the American leader.

In fact while the American leader ( Lincon ) appears to be sensibly appearing in all pictures, the other leaders all seem to be a lot more caricature-like, comic versions of themselves.

I would just like to make a quiet protest against this subconscious racism which, though not intentional, seems evident to me. They [ Americans ] would not dare poke fun at their own institutions ( such as Lincon or even Ghandi, who also is shown respect ) whereas they're perfectly willing to have some fun at the expense of others ( The English, the Persians, probably many of the others which I haven't seen..... )

So can I just say on this particular issue Firaxis ( though for everything else I've seen so far )

[Executor]

Re: Elizabeth...... what has become of thee....

Originally posted by Faboba
( see attahed )

Me see nothing. Me blind?

[Crouchback]

Ghandi will be getting violent, and have you seen the animation of Lincoln grinning on the video (looks damn stupid). I don't know if Elizabeth changes costume, but she depicted in the same way that she always has been. No I would not like to see her portrayed as a Maggie character.

But man, get a grip on the racist talk.

There is nothing discriminatory about sticking to the stereotypical image of a well-known national leader. The use of Lincoln as the American leader is far more dubious, given that it was his election that sparked off the Civil War over there, than the use of England's greatest monarch.

David

[Jason Beaudoin]

Ya... it does sound a little strange to be complaining about how Elizabeth is dressed.

[Faboba]

You wouldn't be saying that if she was dressed sensibly..... because I'd never have made the thread, It'd never have been moved the the civilizations folder and you'd never have read it and consequently replied.

[Stuie]

Lincoln (the historical figure) always dressed conservatively. Elizabeth was quite a bit flashier, wouldn't you say? I think they have attempted to reflect what the various leaders' clothing choices would be had they lived in the different eras.

Then again, Cleopatra in the bonnet is quite a hoot - I think she would have worn something more.... revealing.

[d_dudy]

the glasses are silly but everything else on elizabeth is ok

[jsw363]

Originally posted by d_dudy
the glasses are silly but everything else on elizabeth is ok

I personally like Elizabeth. The Cleo bonnet thing though is kind of scary. I do agree though that many of the leaders look cartoo... perhaps on purpose? They could have made an effort to make the leaders look as if you could take them seriously...

[red_jon]

I think she looks better in the modern ewra than the other eras

[Imran Siddiqui]

You wouldn't be saying that if she was dressed sensibly.....

I see nothing wrong with her dress. What is the problem .

Another pointless whine?

[Dinner]

I don't see anything wrong with the way they dressed Lizy. Although I still wish they'd replace her with Victoria and rename the civ Great Britain instead of England. I chalk it up to Fraxis's ignorance of history.

[red_jon]

Is she wearing shoulder pads?

[monkspider]

Modern Liz has been my favorite thus far! I don't understand their thinking on the bonnet for Cleo, but it is pretty amusing I suppose.

[Jaybe]

Often, when we see someone clothed in the fashion of another period, they do seem strange! It's just that we are not used to it. Also, "fashion" is very subjective -- especially THESE days.

What is in good taste to one might not be in good taste to another....

[Sean]

the glasses are silly but everything else on elizabeth is ok

I agree. Though the characters all look a little bit funny.

Another pointless whine?

Could be...