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    UU: Cossack, upg. cavalry (regularly 6.3.3, requires horses + saltpetre) with extra defense

    Sci/Exp

  • #2
    So what happened to the Mig then? Was it designed for a modern scn then?
    "An intellectual is a man who doesn't know how to park a bike"
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    • #3
      Whew! This is the strongest UU so far. I wonder how strong and fast are tanks going to be?
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      With Exp and Science, Russians should be a very powerful Civ.
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      Of course, the most successful ruler was Stalin, not Cath; I guess he is not PC.
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      "The Cossack is an upgraded version of the calvary. Like calvary, it requires both horses and saltpeter to build, but it also adds an additional point of defense to an already formidable set of combat statistics. With their high movement rates, deadly offensive capability, and solid defensive rating, the Cossack is a unit you don't want to tangle with.

      Attack Defense Move
      Standard Calvary 6 3 3
      Russian Cossack 6 4 3 "

      It´s C*A*V*A*L*R*Y, of course; Calvary is a place in the Bible, which has absolutely nothing to do with it; spellcheck any body? I sure hope we will not have to play with 'calvary' units in the game.
      Last edited by Comrade Tribune; October 12, 2001, 14:05.
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      • #4
        That could be; I thought it was because the MiG was too similar to the American F15.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
          Calvary is a place in the Bible, which has absolutely nothing to do with it; spellcheck any body?
          The fact that it's a real word was probably the reason it slipped through the spell check...

          I don't know that many people who consider Stalin a "great ruler" (Megalomania does not equal greatness), though a fair number prefer Peter over Catherine. I don't; Catherine the Great is by far my favourite historical leader, an intelligent, unscrupolous and sex-mad monarch with truly Machiavellian characteristics.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Snapcase
            I don't know that many people who consider Stalin a "great ruler" (Megalomania does not equal greatness), though a fair number prefer Peter over Catherine. I don't; Catherine the Great is by far my favourite historical leader, an intelligent, unscrupolous and sex-mad monarch with truly Machiavellian characteristics.
            I think "greatness" is an entirely subjective characteristic. On the other hand, "successful" is not. In terms of raw power gains, only Ivan the Terrible and Stalin should have been considered.
            Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

            Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Snapcase
              Catherine the Great is by far my favourite historical leader, an intelligent, unscrupolous and sex-mad monarch with truly Machiavellian characteristics.
              See how far Earth has come since those days? Take Clinton, for example: an intelligent, unscrupulous, sex-mad President with truly Machiavellian characteristics..

              who says history is cyclical, anyway??


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
                Whew! This is the strongest UU so far. I wonder how strong and fast are tanks going to be?
                I was initially concerned that Panzers for the Germans would be imbalanced. But hopefully this will be offset by not having their stats too different from regular tanks, and the fact that they will require a lot of resources.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
                  See how far Earth has come since those days? Take Clinton, for example: an intelligent, unscrupulous, sex-mad President with truly Machiavellian characteristics.

                  Why don't you add this to the Civ3 official webpage, Dan?
                  "An intellectual is a man who doesn't know how to park a bike"
                  - Spiro T. Agnew

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                  • #10
                    With this UU and the Special units the Russian will probably become one of my favorite civs

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Snapcase
                      Catherine the Great is by far my favourite historical leader, an intelligent, unscrupolous and sex-mad monarch with truly Machiavellian characteristics.
                      Btw, Stalin shared all of Catherine´s characteristics, except for "sexmad".

                      If sexmad is required for greatness, they shouldn´t have included Gandhi.
                      Now, if I ask myself: Who profits from a War against Iraq?, the answer is: Israel. -Prof. Rudolf Burger, Austrian Academy of Arts

                      Free Slobo, lock up George, learn from Kim-Jong-Il.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Comrade Tribune


                        Btw, Stalin shared all of Catherine´s characteristics, except for "sexmad".

                        If sexmad is required for greatness, they shouldn´t have included Gandhi.
                        Actually, Gandhi passes for this requirement... his youth (before the trip to South Africa) was quite "wild" according to some biographies...
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                        • #13
                          If were to believe some of the more crazy Biopsychologists out there, all political leadership is about sex. Hungry for power? You're just trying to mate with as many people as possible and produce an environment of safety for your offspring.
                          Världsstad - Dom lokala genrenas vän
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patriqvium
                            Actually, Gandhi passes for this requirement... his youth (before the trip to South Africa) was quite "wild" according to some biographies...
                            It's an interesting stereotype that those who are known for fighting "moral" causes are themselves ascetic (although Gandhi was later in life). For example, Martin Luther King was a womanizer and Albert Schweitzer was supposedly a real ******* to his nurses and staff.

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                            • #15
                              Although they are a good idea and add flavour to the game, it seems as if those unique units are unevenly shared between civs.

                              I mean, the cossack is a better replacement for cavalry than the hoplite is for the spearman, and although the Aztec jaguar warrior might come in handy in the early stages of the game, he will probably be obsolete quickly, and then the Aztecs have lost that military advantage.

                              The Americans, on the other hand, can look forward to a powerful F-15 in the latter stages of the game, when such advantages might count considerably.

                              When I first heard about the concept of unique units, I thought there would be unique units for each civ in each era. Come to think of it, that would have been impossible, given historical accuracy. (The Americans did not exist in 1000 BC, and the Aztecs don't exist now.)

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