The newest civ-of-the-week : Iroquois

[SerapisIV]

The Iroquois:

Special Unit: Mounted Warrior

An improved horseman, it's the mounted Indian Chief unit that posters debated months ago might have been a military leader.

[monkspider]

you just beat me to it

[SerapisIV]

In Civilization III, the Iroquois represent all the tribes of Northern Native Americans. Though the Iroquois rarely used horse-mounted warriors in combat due to the wooded terrain they usually fought in, many other tribes frequently made use of them (notably the Sioux and other tribes of the Great Plains), and to great effect.

Nice to see that Firaxis gave in to the politically correct gods when they decided that the Iroquois were a civ and not the Incas

[JellyDonut]

You beat me, too, only I didn't realize till it was too late

[Akron]

The Mounted Warrior is 3-1-2. Looks like a pretty powerful unit for its time. Probably will be the first unit with attack 3.

[korn469]

stupid slow internet

but anyways is it just me or do early mobile units look pretty worthless?

chariot 1-1-2
horseman 2-1-2
and then suddenly
knight 4-3-2

but it's all cool

[JellyDonut]

Originally posted by SerapisIV
Nice to see that Firaxis gave in to the politically correct gods when they decided that the Iroquois were a civ and not the Incas

Something tells me this was a last-ditch effort to save the unit after their Q&A guys said it was historically incorrect At least they didn't try to pretend it was a real Iroquois unit.

[Ralf]

OK, now we only have the Zulus left of the ancient/medieval era-related CSU:s. Soon we can finally get down to buziness with the more interesteing industrial/modern CSU:s stats.

[monkspider]

Mounted warrior looks useful IMHO. A good early attack unit.
I think they have made an interesting choice to use the Iroquis to represent all northern native american tribes. It was probably the only thing they can do, as you can't simply have a Civ called "Native Americans".

[SerapisIV]

Nah, then they'll do the British with the man-o-war. Which is pre-industrial. Sucks don't it. At least 3 weeks from today until we see an industrial/modern civ UU. Hopefully the screen-of-the week will be more revealing.

[monkspider]

What about the Russian Cossack? What time period would it fit under?

[monkspider]

....and there is still Japan with her Samurai left as well.

[Felch]

Does anybody else get the feeling that some of these unique units aren't going to be all that decisive? I mean, the Greek hoplites were the premier fighting unit in the Aegean, Roman legion dominated the mediterranean, and the English man-o-war turned the world's oceans into Britain's pond.

This leads to two problems. What do you do with empires that never had any sort of powerhouse, and how do you reflect the relative abilities of the units historically without unbalancing the game?

Other than that, I think the Iroquois are pretty bland. Nothing against them, I'm just not sitting around waiting for that first chance to pop in the CD and start using "Mounted Warriors."

[JellyDonut]

Originally posted by monkspider
What about the Russian Cossack? What time period would it fit under?

We still don't know what the Russian unique unit is. From http://www.civ3.com/asktheteam_092801.cfm :

As far as the Russian unique unit goes, our lips are sealed!

I don't know why everybody's making a big ruckus out of the Iroquois unit NOW. We saw this unit months ago and later found out the Iroquois were in. Couldn't anybody put 2 and 2 together (and not get 5 )???

[Ribannah]

He could have been Aztec. At least their cousins the Comanche and Soschone were excellent riders! later, we were just hoping that Firaxis would see the mistake ...
The description of the Iroquois is pretty fair though.