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  • Cleopatra the Egyptian?

    Perhaps my history is a little shakey in this area, but I have generally been under the impression that Cleopatra was perhaps not an Eqyptian. Wasn't she decended from/related to Ptolomy I, a Macedonian?
    To those who understand,
    I extend my hand.
    To the doubtful I demand,
    Take me as I am.

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    Yes i believe so, i think queen hatshpesut would be a better choice
    Let us unite together as one nation, a world nation" - Gundam Wing

    "The God of War will destroy all mortals whom dare stand in his way"

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    • #3
      Yes, greek
      "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
      You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

      "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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      • #4
        Here we go again

        Cleopatra was Macedonian
        So was Alexander
        Catherine the Great and Queen Victoria were German
        Napoleon was Corsican
        Bismarck was born in Eastern Prussia
        Great Polish King Stefan Bathory was Transylvanian
        the Han Dynasty in China was Mongolian

        So what?

        (BTW, After many generations Cleopatre was as much Macedonian as Lincoln was British)
        The problem with leadership is inevitably: Who will play God?
        - Frank Herbert

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Martinus
          Here we go again

          the Han Dynasty in China was Mongolian

          What the **** are you talking about?

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          • #6
            I don't even understand what is so special about Cleopatra? She had a small impact on the Egyptian culture, she certainly wasn't a great ruler, she fled from combat at the battle of Antium, and killed herself in the end. Wow, great leader.

            Bring on Ramses II, The Great! Or at least Cheops or something. Cleopatra is a joke, almost as bad as Joan d'Arc. I'm going to edit them both out asap when I get the game.
            Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Transcend



              What the **** are you talking about?
              Ooops. My mistake. I meant Yuan Dynasty. Sorry
              The problem with leadership is inevitably: Who will play God?
              - Frank Herbert

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mark L
                I don't even understand what is so special about Cleopatra? She had a small impact on the Egyptian culture, she certainly wasn't a great ruler, she fled from combat at the battle of Antium, and killed herself in the end. Wow, great leader.

                Bring on Ramses II, The Great! Or at least Cheops or something. Cleopatra is a joke, almost as bad as Joan d'Arc. I'm going to edit them both out asap when I get the game.
                I definitely agree. Cleo is the steriotypical ruler, just as if they had made Tut the ruler.
                "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
                You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

                "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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                • #9
                  Cleopatra is

                  a)supposed to be sexy (actually she was a short *****, with a large Greek nose and a huuuge arse... but that's just historical truth )

                  b)incarnated by Liz Tailor in the film

                  c)a woman

                  d)Definitely the most well known leader of Egypt

                  e)starring in a couple of Asterix the Gaul issues...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ubik
                    e)starring in a couple of Asterix the Gaul issues...
                    Let us unite together as one nation, a world nation" - Gundam Wing

                    "The God of War will destroy all mortals whom dare stand in his way"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mark L
                      I don't even understand what is so special about Cleopatra? She had a small impact on the Egyptian culture, she certainly wasn't a great ruler, she fled from combat at the battle of Antium, and killed herself in the end. Wow, great leader.

                      Bring on Ramses II, The Great! Or at least Cheops or something. Cleopatra is a joke, almost as bad as Joan d'Arc. I'm going to edit them both out asap when I get the game.
                      I'm sure they choice Joan and Cleopatra just to keep the women's lib people happy. Therefor the fact that Joan wasn't ever a head of state and that Cleopatra was a crappy head of state doesn't matter to them.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Cleopatra the Egyptian?

                        Originally posted by Ironwood
                        Perhaps my history is a little shakey in this area, but I have generally been under the impression that Cleopatra was perhaps not an Eqyptian. Wasn't she decended from/related to Ptolomy I, a Macedonian?
                        Cleopatra was a Mastodon??

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mars
                          Yes i believe so, i think queen hatshpesut would be a better choice
                          Nefertiti

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mark L
                            I don't even understand what is so special about Cleopatra? She had a small impact on the Egyptian culture, she certainly wasn't a great ruler, she fled from combat at the battle of Antium, and killed herself in the end. Wow, great leader.

                            Bring on Ramses II, The Great! Or at least Cheops or something. Cleopatra is a joke, almost as bad as Joan d'Arc. I'm going to edit them both out asap when I get the game.
                            I'd do the same, but the avatars are probably too good to pass up. Maybe I'll change the name and pretend she is one of their servants. The whole Montezuma in a suit thing bugs me too

                            One thing you have to follow though is the "rewrite" versus "replay" history angle. If you were in control of Cleopatra, maybe she wouldn't have been such a pathetic ruler.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by squid
                              If you were in control of Cleopatra, maybe she wouldn't have been such a pathetic ruler.
                              Actually, in my hands, she would be just as pathetic.

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