Who, once and for all, do you think American leader should be?

[Comrade Tribune]

George Bush jun.; he will go down in history as the individual who most typically represented the impact of the American civilization on human progress.

[Mahdimael]

James K. Polk.

He added over 800000 square miles of land to the U.S. and won a war against Mexico, but his administration widened the divide between the North and the South, which would lead to the American Civil War.

Of course, nobody would know him if they saw him in Civ3

[red_jon]

Originally posted by GP
Thatcher is cool. Be nice to her, RJ. She's an icon of Britain. I don't even know what Blair or Major look like...

What?! We get images of world leaders all the time! Don't you papers do international news?

[St Leo]

Jefferson, Franklin, and Paine are the only literate American politicians that I can think of.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Teddy Roosevelt!!!!

[Stefu]

Of course, nobody would know him if they saw him in Civ3

Maybe they could have "James K. Polk" by They Might Be Giants as American background music.

In 1844, the Democrats were split...

[axi]

Couldn't they have different leaders for different epochs and governments?

F.e. if the US were communist, their leader wouldn't have been Lincoln, but Eugene Debbs.

If they were fundy, it would have been revt. Jesse Jackson.
If they had a king, it would be Elvis.
If they had a despot, it would be Bill Gates.
For a republic, it would be Reagan.
For a democracy, it would be JFK.

[Imran Siddiqui]

PS--I am opposed to the 22nd Amendment. I find it a violation of the Bill of Rights. Americans should be allowed to vote for who they want free of restrictions. That IS democracy, after all.

And which of the first 10 Amendments does the 22nd violate?

[Dauphin]

Americans should be allowed to vote for who they want free of restrictions. That IS democracy, after all.

Are you also against the over 35 age limit?

To be pedantic - what about all the other restrictions (e.g. citizenship, criminal record)?

[Rakki]

Regarding the Issei Camps - didn't FDR die before World War 2 ended ? Then you can't pin him for whatever the US government failed to do after his death......

[d_dudy]

Originally posted by axi
Couldn't they have different leaders for different epochs and governments?

F.e. if the US were communist, their leader wouldn't have been Lincoln, but Eugene Debbs.

If they were fundy, it would have been revt. Jesse Jackson.
If they had a king, it would be Elvis.
If they had a despot, it would be Bill Gates.
For a republic, it would be Reagan.
For a democracy, it would be JFK.

what kind of fundy is that??????? crazy looney fundy. i think the christian coalition guy would be better

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Rakki
Regarding the Issei Camps - didn't FDR die before World War 2 ended ? Then you can't pin him for whatever the US government failed to do after his death......

FDR died in 1945, shortly before the war ended. So that doesn't work. I have no idea how much he even knew about the Issei camps, actually.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by d_dudy


what kind of fundy is that??????? crazy looney fundy. i think the christian coalition guy would be better

Isn't crazy looney the very definition of a fundamentalist?

But yes, Jackson isn't remotely close to a fundy. He doesn't hate women/gays/minorities/poor people/other religions/etc.

Better to have Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. But since neither of those two bozos have actually been political leaders, and I'd really HATE to immortalize them in a game...maybe Brigham Young?

[Ozymandous]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


There was not originally a term limit for the POTUS. The Republicans in Congress inacted the 22nd amendment because they were ticked off at FDR being prez for so long. The Dems went along with it because they didn't want to be seen as endorsing a "monarchal figure."

I would actually attribute the move out of isolationism more to Wilson than FDR. Or Wilson's wife, at least, since she was actually our first woman president after Wilson was debilitated by a stroke.

Cheers.

PS--I am opposed to the 22nd Amendment. I find it a violation of the Bill of Rights. Americans should be allowed to vote for who they want free of restrictions. That IS democracy, after all.

There was no official term limit but most presidents (at least not those who craved power) knew of and accepted that their was an unofficial limit on their terms since George Washington did it.

One note about your comment about the 22nd amendment. if Americans could really vote who they want in I don't think Bill Clinton would have been elected at all, possibly no "modern" president would have been except George W in the most recent election because Clinton didn't even win the majority of the popular vote, he just won more of the minority that anyone else at the time.

IMHO, there should be a third "none of the above" option for elections and if that option wins more than either cantidate then we have the election again, only with better cantidates.

Otherwise you risk the dubious "choice" of voting for the lesser of two evils (which is what happens anyway), and just trying to counter-act some of the blind radicals who want the government to do everything for them in their lives.

Oh, and for whoever it was who commented about not liking Geore Bush's energy policy... Well, it's better than the non-existant policy that the previous administration had.

[d_dudy]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Isn't crazy looney the very definition of a fundamentalist?

But yes, Jackson isn't remotely close to a fundy. He doesn't hate women/gays/minorities/poor people/other religions/etc.

Better to have Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. But since neither of those two bozos have actually been political leaders, and I'd really HATE to immortalize them in a game...maybe Brigham Young?

maybe if it was the fundy of utah