Slav Civs

[Cybergod]

Being a Slav myself, I am interested if anyone knows what, if any, civilizations, apart from Russians, will be included in the game or scenarios or mod-packs?

[Ralf]

Re: Slav Civs

Originally posted by Cybergod
Being a Slav myself, I am interested if anyone knows what, if any, civilizations, apart from Russians, will be included in the game or scenarios or mod-packs?

Dont think so. But civ-edit possibilities will be very newbie-friendly (with the exception for graphics which requires some artistic talent). But other then that, you can tailocut your own civs, or download civ-modpacks from the internet. Or wait for Civ-3 expansion-updates with new added civs (compare with added factions in SMAC Alien Crossfire).

[Cybergod]

Thanx! I just hope the "editor" doesn't turn out to be a piece of crap like "SMAC Faction Editor" - it is so bad that it crashed my games eternally, until I learned to do the tweaking myself...

[Gramphos]

Originally posted by Cybergod
Thanx! I just hope the "editor" doesn't turn out to be a piece of crap like "SMAC Faction Editor" - it is so bad that it crashed my games eternally, until I learned to do the tweaking myself...

Trust in Firaxis! They have said that their editors are really powerful, and user-friendly this time.

[Urban Ranger]

I don't see why there should be more than 1 Slavic civ in Civ 3 given that many older and more famous ones couldn't make it.

[Cybergod]

Because you cannot classify every single Slavic nation as Russian . There were/are some conflicts between individual slavic nation on the counts of the past near histrory (namely forced communism by Russians and the invasion of Poland).

By this I am not justifying that it should replace other "more famous and older" civ but just making a tiny point.

[DarkCloud]

Good, historical slavic civs:

Poland
The Mighty Kingdom of Lithuania
UKRAINE
Russia
Yugoslavia (Just a generalization )

[St Leo]

Poland

Poland's important but not top 16 important.

The Mighty Kingdom of Lithuania

They are Balts, dumbass.

UKRAINE

Kievan Rus?

Russia

Russia is already included.

Yugoslavia

Slovenes, Croats, Bosnians, Herzegovinians (?), and Serbs.


You forgot to mention the Bulgars and the Moravians/Bohemians/Slovaks.

[Cybergod]

Originally posted by St Leo
Yugoslavia

Slovenes, Croats, Bosnians, Herzegovinians (?), and Serbs.


You forgot to mention the Bulgars and the Moravians/Bohemians/Slovaks.

Whoa, be careful there. Bulgarians are not Slavs, they adopted the Christian Orthodoxy in the Middle Ages from their neighbouring Serb and Byzantine kingdoms, but they are not descendants from the slavic family. This is not to say that they do not deserve to be put in the game aswell

Also, about Yugoslavia. You CANNOT have a civ named Yugoslavia. See why...

After the WW1, Serbs united Montenegro, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia and Macedonia under a Yugoslav Kingdom, which turned into a federation after the communist takeover after WW2. And ofcourse, you know what happened in the 90s...

So from that federation you might have the two of the most prominent - Serbia (10 million) and Croatia (don't know the number, prob. around 8 million). (Slovenia has only 2 million people, while Montenegro has just 600,000 and I don't know the pop of Bosnia or Macedonia)

[DarkCloud]

I know why you cannot have a civ named "Yugoslavia"... I was being Ironic

Lithuania has many slavic members in it.

Yes, Kievan Rus

I was just listing as many as I could in 30 seconds... sort of like an exercise

[Jacobite1688]

Growing up in Chicago, I knew many "Lugans" as the Lithuanians called themselves. I even dated an "off the boat" Lugan girl. The ones I knew were VERY Roman Catholic and seemed to be an odd and contradictory mix between Poles and Gremans. This makes sense, as history might tell us that modern Lithuaninans resulted from intermarriage between the native Slavs and invading Teutonic Crusaders and settlers.

[aaglo]

Well, how about the Romanians? I think they're not Slavs, more like gypsies
But the inclusion of Romanians would cause some mix-ups with the Romans

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Originally posted by aaglo
Well, how about the Romanians? I think they're not Slavs, more like gypsies
But the inclusion of Romanians would cause some mix-ups with the Romans

watch out for Romanian posters.. onslaught is coming...

gypsies are no closer to Romanians that to your own nationality whatever it is...

[Gangerolf]

Isn't Bulgarian a Slavic language? I think it's related to Macedonian, and the Macedonians are Slavs, right?

Maybe they are not Slavs, but still speaking a Slavic language?

[Cybergod]

Originally posted by Gangerolf
Isn't Bulgarian a Slavic language? I think it's related to Macedonian, and the Macedonians are Slavs, right?

Maybe they are not Slavs, but still speaking a Slavic language?

There isn't a so-called "slavic language", but Russian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Polish, Macedonian, etc. Have evolved in their own idividual ways because of the Greek priests and the Greek Orthoox church which was spreading it's religious and lingual influence throughout all the slavic lands. All the language have their own native alterations but they are all pretty similar (and resemble faint similarities to Greek).

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