Next Civ... The Chinese

[tniem]

Leader: Mao Tse Tung
UU: Rider
Capital: Beijing

[ixnay]

The Rider is an upgraded Knight (4-3-2) which gets a bonus to defense AND movement, making it a 4-4-3 unit. Also, it and the knight require iron and horses. Interesting

[Provost Harrison]

Oooh, don't mess with the rider, looks a vicious little git

[Tventano]

It seems that later units need more and more resources. So you do have to expand or keep friends with some other civs. This will have a huge effect on diplomacy and the wars tp\o be fought.

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by Tventano
It seems that later units need more and more resources. So you do have to expand or keep friends with some other civs. This will have a huge effect on diplomacy and the wars tp\o be fought.

Indeed it looks like while late civs might get "better" advantages like better GA's, they also face a harder game in units that are more difficult to build. If correct, I would assume that this is done to balance the game, and prevent late civs from "running away with the game".

[Fiera]

Looks like the Chinese have "stolen" the Mongol specific unit...

[tniem]

Another thing I have noticed is that all the pics of unique units have had the color blue in the dress of the unit. I hope this means that blue is a generic color and that each civ will have any color that you want to play with them.

This shouldn't be hard to do, after all most games have gone this route.

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

Originally posted by tniem
Another thing I have noticed is that all the pics of unique units have had the color blue in the dress of the unit. I hope this means that blue is a generic color and that each civ will have any color that you want to play with them.

This shouldn't be hard to do, after all most games have gone this route.

That's the team color, and it is totally configurable. Beyond the default colors we provide, you can change them to be nearly any color you want using the editors. Glad someone noticed, though

Dan

[lockstep]

Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS

That's the team color, and it is totally configurable. Beyond the default colors we provide, you can change them to be nearly any color you want using the editors. Glad someone noticed, though

Dan, as I´m a fan of SMAC´s 'see-the-color-know-the-faction'-feature: Is it possible to change the colors so that each of the 16 civs will be assigned a different default color that won´t change in later games?

[YefeiPi]

The description of Chinese didn't sound particular insightful. I mean there is no mention of their inventions and contributions at all besides Great wall? I mean common, there are much more great achievements the Chinese are known for.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by YefeiPi
The description of Chinese didn't sound particular insightful. I mean there is no mention of their inventions and contributions at all besides Great wall? I mean common, there are much more great achievements the Chinese are known for.

So you want a massivly in-depth history on one of the oldest civilizations in human history, but all still fitting within the few paragraph limit?!?

Maybe if you want an insightful view on history, look up a site dedicated to that - the subject could fill vast amounts of cyberspace, instead of complaining that a summary on a game site isnt in-depth

[Leonidas]

If later units do require more resources then that means a civ will have to balance expansion with resources.

Whew. . . I hope this means the end of having to move hundreds of military units across the entire map. . .

[Swissy]

Originally posted by Fiera
Looks like the Chinese have "stolen" the Mongol specific unit...

Actually, no. The Chinese Rider should predate the knight. During the Han Dynasty, the Chinese attempted to make military contact with the Romans. The Parthians got in the way. The Chinese were impressed with the Parthian Cataphact cavalry which was basically an armoured rider on an armoured horse. The Chinese incorporated this into their army as the shock unit. The Chinese "knight" was no longer used in the Mongol period. The Sung Chinese put more reliance on the combination of artillery supported foot and a mixture of light and heavy cavalry, but no armoured horses.

[Transcend]

Originally posted by Swissy


Actually, no. The Chinese Rider should predate the knight. During the Han Dynasty, the Chinese attempted to make military contact with the Romans. The Parthians got in the way. The Chinese were impressed with the Parthian Cataphact cavalry which was basically an armoured rider on an armoured horse. The Chinese incorporated this into their army as the shock unit. The Chinese "knight" was no longer used in the Mongol period. The Sung Chinese put more reliance on the combination of artillery supported foot and a mixture of light and heavy cavalry, but no armoured horses.

One reason that Song Dynasty didn't employ cavalry on masses was that they were denied access to quality grazing land. The Norther Song was blocked by the Khitan Empire, and Southern Dynasty was even pushed farther south by the Jin Empire. Quality horses were rare in South China and the government simply couldn't afford massive cavalry forces.

Ming Empire started out strong, but ended in the most pathetic collapse of all Chinese dynasties due to mismanagement.

[Inverse Icarus]

hrm. "The People's Republic".

I always loved the bitter irony in that title, and now i get to laught at it from 4000 BC on