British or English, Firaxis?

[KrazyHorse]

Personally, I'd date the beginning of english civ in its modern form from the end of the 9th century, since the Viking raids did change fundamental aspects of society in large parts of the country (the Danelaw), and these ended up impacting the country as a whole. From this moment on, english society was free from any further substantive changes being forced upon it from abroad. Big Crunch already pointed out that the Norman invasion of 1066 did little to change the actual form of society; the people simply had a new king and new nobles, but the common law from before the invasion still held sway, in large part.

[kittenOFchaos]

I'm scottish and I'm the one wanting Edward Longshanks etc...so

As for the Normans not changing much...they formed the new elite and they are the ones that matter (William Wallace was a Norman...this isn't a justification of my point, just a throw away comment) in terms of forming new laws and governing...

I knew that 1066 A.D wiliam the conqueror invaded AND DID not immediately have Magna Carter etc! But the new elite which was Norman WERE responsible for it's construction and enactedment and the foundation of the new elite was Norman families by right of conquest...Saxons remained important because the Normans were few AND because they kept sweet with the new Norman bosses not like a certain myth...twang!


...and somehow I've got a Norman nose...