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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tiberius
    50 cities, Laszlo ?! I'm not even sure that Hungary has so many cities. Or did you count the villages, too?
    I'm hungarian (though I do not live in Hungary; just near the border) but I hardly could say 50 cities! (well, maybe with a help of a map, I could). Just for my curiosity: did you inlcude in your list also former-hungarian cities ? (you know, cities that are now in Romania or Slovakia or Ukraine).
    Tiberius, well, we did use an encyclopedia to find all the city names. They were listed alphabetically, but we reordered them by population size. And though the size got pretty small near the end, we needed at least 50 city names to accomodate our expansionist strategies. I also implanted my name (appropriately I think) as the default male ruler of the Hungarian civ in the rules.txt

    And about your curiosity, I am second-generation Hungarian and don't know much of it's history. I'm afraid that no former Hungarian cities will be listed because the encyclopedia only had the then-current 1990 listing. My dad might have been able to help me make it more inclusive, but he does not share our interest in the game.

    If you have the time, would you mind revising the attached file to include a more historical perspective? Feel free to keep the listing either way. Enjoy!

    Laszlo
    Attached Files

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    • #17
      Thanks Laszlo for the list, I will study it at home and answer you tomorrow (I'm at work right now). I will try to add more cities, too.

      Btw, Laszlo is your first or last name? (sound like a first name; are you perhaps Laci?)

      Sorry for beeing off topic, but I rarely find a hungarian in the Civ3 forums.

      Tibi
      "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
      --George Bernard Shaw
      A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
      --Woody Allen

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      • #18
        Well, to begin with, you will have to rework it to include those cities that are not in Hungary today. Major hungarian cities like Pozsony (now "Bratislava"), Temesvár (now "Timisoara"), or Bestercsebánya (Now "Banska Bystika" or something), need to be included. Also, hstorical cities of importance within hungary's borders, most notably former capital Visegrád, need to be included. Other minor problems: It's "Gödöllö" (well, with accents not dots on the last letter), not "Godollo" (having "o" as a last letter is impossible in Hungarian anyway, it would have to be "ó"), likewise with Györ and Gyöngyös.

        Otherwise, looking good! I've not even heard of some of those cities, but I've been in like half of them and can vaguely confirm their city status. Except for that of Salgótarján, which is a large village, basically.
        Världsstad - Dom lokala genrenas vän
        Mick102, 102,3 Umeå, Måndagar 20-21

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        • #19
          I will relaunch the first customised civ I ever played with, the glorious Empire of Yorkshire (Yorkshireans), run from their capital city of York. Their cities are:

          York
          Leeds
          Sheffield
          Hull
          Bradford
          Harrogate
          Huddersfield
          Scarborough
          Doncaster
          Barnsley
          Rotherham
          Ilkley
          Ripon
          Beverley
          Dewsbury
          ...and more. I should put in the towns of Cleckheaton and Blubberhouses, just because they have silly names.

          I dunno what attributes I would pick for Yorkshire, I am sure I will think of something...
          Speaking of Erith:

          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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          • #20
            OK, I had a few minutes to look at the list.
            First of all, sorry László, I just realized this is your first name (btw, what kind of name is Chandra? Doesn't sound like hungarian)

            Anyway, back to the list. Snapcase has right in all what he said (how the hell do you know so much about Hungary?), except that Besztercebánya is now Banska Bystrica. Of course, Visegrád need to be included. I'll include Tokaj, too. Cute little town (well, maybe a large village), but, most importantly, the base of the famous hungarian wine (you could just found it on a top of a "wine hills" tile ). There are more former hungarian cities, of course. If you include just those that are in Romania right now (I live in Temesvár/Timiºoara), you'll change drastically the whole text-file, because Temesvár, Kolozsvár and Brassó are all bigger than Debrecen! Also Nagyvárad, Arad, Szatmárnémeti, Marosvásárhely, Nagybánya, all should be in the top 15 hungarian cities! I'll try to find for you some real facts until tomorrow (population, etc).

            About the leader's name: in Nagyvárad (now Oradea), my city of birth, there is a statue of László the Saint, one of Hungary's great kings; so don't worry, the László name is appropriate (maybe you could change it to Szent László).
            "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
            --George Bernard Shaw
            A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
            --Woody Allen

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            • #21
              Nem szabad Magyarórzágrol tudni dolgokat? Az hogy az anyám magyar és hogy Budapesten laktam öt evig kiskoromba nem elég-e? És az hogy magyarul tudok beszélni, az elég?
              Världsstad - Dom lokala genrenas vän
              Mick102, 102,3 Umeå, Måndagar 20-21

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              • #22
                Ó, elnézését kérem, Snapcase úr, nem akartam megsérteni.

                Mindenesetre szép öntõl hogy bár csak kiskorában lakott Magyarországon, nem felejtette el az anyanyelvét!

                Ezentúl szólithatom "földim"-nek?
                "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
                --George Bernard Shaw
                A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
                --Woody Allen

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                • #23
                  You know what would be cool is if you guys took the best rated of these civs and put them together in a large "Apolytoner's Civ Pack."
                  "What can you say about a society that says that God is dead and Elvis is alive?" Irv Kupcinet

                  "It's easy to stop making mistakes. Just stop having ideas." Unknown

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                    I will relaunch the first customised civ I ever played with, the glorious Empire of Yorkshire (Yorkshireans), run from their capital city of York. Their cities are:

                    York
                    Leeds
                    Sheffield
                    Hull
                    Bradford
                    Harrogate
                    Huddersfield
                    Scarborough
                    Doncaster
                    Barnsley
                    Rotherham
                    Ilkley
                    Ripon
                    Beverley
                    Dewsbury
                    ...and more. I should put in the towns of Cleckheaton and Blubberhouses, just because they have silly names.

                    I dunno what attributes I would pick for Yorkshire, I am sure I will think of something...
                    If multiplay is any good you can play againts my Kents

                    Canterbury,
                    Dover,
                    Rochester,
                    Ashford,
                    etc.....
                    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                    • #25
                      OK, here is the (almost) complete list of actual and former hungarian cities.

                      I hope these are enough, even for an expansionistic player like Laszlo!
                      Attached Files
                      "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
                      --George Bernard Shaw
                      A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
                      --Woody Allen

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                        I will relaunch the first customised civ I ever played with, the glorious Empire of Yorkshire (Yorkshireans), run from their capital city of York. Their cities are:

                        York
                        Leeds
                        Sheffield
                        Hull
                        Bradford
                        Harrogate
                        Huddersfield
                        Scarborough
                        Doncaster
                        Barnsley
                        Rotherham
                        Ilkley
                        Ripon
                        Beverley
                        Dewsbury
                        ...and more. I should put in the towns of Cleckheaton and Blubberhouses, just because they have silly names.

                        I dunno what attributes I would pick for Yorkshire, I am sure I will think of something...
                        Hmm, I was born in Sheffield so I second the Yorkshire civ

                        Hmm, I reckon industrious could be an attribute...

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                        • #27
                          the Jedi
                          the Sith
                          the MetallicAns
                          the Magandas
                          the French
                          the Protoss

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                          • #28
                            Some "forbidden" civs:

                            - the Templars
                            - the Masons
                            - the Amazones
                            - Greenpeace
                            - the Illuminati
                            A horse! A horse! Mingapulco for a horse! Someone must give chase to Brave Sir Robin and get those missing flags ...
                            Project Lead of Might and Magic Tribute

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JellyDonut
                              - St. Pierre et Miquélon (who could do without it?)

                              etc. etc. etc.
                              Mmmm...cod.
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Tiberius
                                First of all, sorry László, I just realized this is your first name (btw, what kind of name is Chandra? Doesn't sound like hungarian)
                                Tibi, Laszlo is my first name, though some people at church call me Laci. And my sister's name is Sanskrit in origin and means "she who outshines the stars".

                                But back to the list, thank you very much (and Snapcase too) for all the input. I'll replace my old city text with the revised listing right away.

                                PS -
                                Originally posted by Tiberius
                                Snapcase has right in all what he said (how the hell do you know so much about Hungary?)
                                Anyway, how does Snapcase know so much about Hungary. I only know a few words of Hungarian and could not follow your discussion.

                                PPS - I am also interested in the future, Tiberius.


                                László

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