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**KrazyHorse** · August 13, 2001, 20:28

You're the only other Quebec poster I've seen. Comment ca va?

**Inverse Icarus** · August 13, 2001, 21:25

oui oui. FRENCHIE IS PINK.

**Trifna** · August 13, 2001, 21:34

:-)

Ça va bien. But I'm not going to start a conversation here, since I guess it wouldn't be the place

**XarXo** · August 13, 2001, 21:38

Re: Incas didn't used wheels

Originally posted by Trifna
Incas didn't used wheels, but didn't they had good astronomers? A simple comment, but I think it may change some things about the wheel in the tech tree, no? Wheel could be necessary for more advanced mathematics. Pretty hard to get something good about the "pi" number without wheels. Hard to get to good roads since they aren't needed, etc.

Well Egyptians didn't used wheels to make the pyramids too, I can't imagine the life of a pyramid-worker

!!!

Incas [, but but but, ] had an enormous road net in the Andes, they used llamas as us the horses, but they small size only allows kids or slow transport (better than horses, we must consider them like asses).

And we don't need the wheels for the PI number, is better imagine it for architecture (and... Architecture is included in the knowledge list???? I hate the "Bridge Building" name, is a "Discover this to make this" name).

**Trifna** · August 14, 2001, 09:18

Egyptians?

Didn't egyptians had charriots early on?...

PS: I aknowledge you on that bridge name and some others... I'm kindda worried for tech tree these times...

**Nikolai** · August 14, 2001, 09:40

Re: Incas didn't used wheels

Originally posted by Trifna
Incas didn't used wheels

Well, they could have used wheels, couldn't they?

This is a game about re-writing history, you know!

**Al'Kimiya** · August 14, 2001, 10:50

Re: Incas didn't used wheels

Originally posted by Trifna
Incas didn't used wheels, but didn't they had good astronomers? A simple comment, but I think it may change some things about the wheel in the tech tree, no? Wheel could be necessary for more advanced mathematics. Pretty hard to get something good about the "pi" number without wheels. Hard to get to good roads since they aren't needed, etc.

But the Incas aren't in the game, so the tech tree is fine

**Trifna** · August 14, 2001, 10:58

Re: Re: Incas didn't used wheels

Originally posted by Al'Kimiya

But the Incas aren't in the game, so the tech tree is fine

Well... doesn't change anything. Maybe they aren't in the game, but it does change what is possible to do or not.

**Grumbold** · August 14, 2001, 12:11

The tech tree seems to have been designed this time round to provide a choice of paths rather than to be an accurate representation of which sciences or discoveries were direct foreruners of others. If you aggressively persue the path to advanced government you will fall behind militarily. If you persue military techs you will lack culture etc.

**Marquis de Sodaq** · August 14, 2001, 13:23

The Inca were surprizingly advanced astronomers. They incorporated into their stories and knots many intricate long-term observations about stellar and planetary movements. As for mathematics, there is one big circle all people could see and use - the sky "rotating" above. The Inca knew the world was round, could identify where their constellations were while not visible at that time of year, kept time by astronomy. Who needs a wheel?

They didn't use the wheel because it wasn't practical to do so. Llamas and peasants took care of hauling things. Very rough terrain limited their use.

**BackdoorMan** · August 14, 2001, 20:01

They didn't use the wheel because it wasn't practical to do so. Llamas and peasants took care of hauling things. Very rough terrain limited their use.

Bull.

They didn't use the wheel because they hadn't discovered it. No American Indian tribe had. Which also, by the way, calls into question the Aztecs and Iroquois. They also didn't have writing, which as far as I'm concerned disqualifies them as a civilization.

**DrFell** · August 14, 2001, 20:43

Incas had actually discovered the wheel, but it was only used in children's toys etc. not for any useful purpose.

**BackdoorMan** · August 14, 2001, 23:50

You could say they never actually "discovered" the wheel, in that they never figured out how to use it.

**Grumbold** · August 15, 2001, 03:09

They had discovered the wheel. They used it. Had their terrain been more amenable to hand drawn wheeled vehicles or had they had domesticated horses or oxen they might have put it to greater use.