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Mobilization doesn't help with peacetime stuff you're finishing while mobilized. So no, mobilizing would be useless for the factories.
Nathan
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I'm gonna try to get in a few turns while the wife is out. She has this stupid rule about no CivIII on Valentine's Day.Originally posted by nbarclay
Mobilization doesn't help with peacetime stuff you're finishing while mobilized. So no, mobilizing would be useless for the factories.
But if she isn't here it can't hurt, right? 
Thanks for all your help.
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The Virtues of Being Commercial...
When the Medieval time come...
After the semi-epic conquest of the Greeks by the vailliant English people, achieving what historians may remember as Arrian Deception©, life became quite easy on the british island, despite occasionnal wars with the northern folks.
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..." -Dickens
It applied to what the English were living. Building the cities were quite easy. They acquired great knowledge in building, even marketplaces! They even followed their seers who told tales of great achievments that will enlighten the English cities.
On one day, probably because they were getting jealous of the brilliant english, the evil Egyptians, with whom I had been trading frequently, land a swordman next to Reading, a city on our minor northern island. All discussions with Cleopatra led to nothing and she persevered in her plan to take Reading.
[I wanted to sign a gpt deal with Cleo so that she would get a reputation hit from breaking her treaty. I had no doubt she would attack me as Reading had only a vet. spearman guarding it. She was decided to attack and she did so.
As you can see on the screenshot below, I could not go and help Reading, as a german archer was blocking the way. Reinforcements were en route, but they came to late to defend the city.Attached FilesComment
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The Virtues of Being Commercial... a sequel
As soon as Reading got invaded, I called Japan and asked to declare war on Egypt, which they did when I gave them literature and philosophy, two relatively old techs... I wanted them to serve as a punching bag for Egypt instead of me.
Germany soon joined the brawl, their two cities producing units as fast as they could. Japan took one and I took the other, which I later gave to Japan.
Its fun to have such a nice ambiance when we throw parties...Attached FilesComment
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The Virtues of Being Commercial... a sequel's sequel...
Things finally settled. Germany had learned their lesson; they ceased to exist with this war. Japan got reduced to 3 cities by Egypt, and most of all...I got Reading back!!
I then made a difficult choice... Either I pump military units as fast as I can and try to invade Egypt while they are not that strong, either I turtle on my island(s) and go for the Diplomatic/SS win. I chose the second option when I looked at my military advisor. He told me that Egypt were much stronger than I was and that I should not provoke them. I did so...
Being the English does not encourage military action as far as I am concerned... Their commercialness(?) give a decent outcome even with a relatively low number of cities. Add this with lower corruption, good trading and good FP placement, a civilization like mine could compete with a mcuh bigger civ.
So the English poeple started piling rocks, waiting for someone to know what to do with them... Some crazy architect thought that we could we could build the Sixteenth Chapel, the previous fifteen being mere temples... Unfortunately, the idea was just a vague project when we heard through the clouds that someone named the Babylonians already built a Sistine Chapel. Our idea was too similar and had to be rejected...
We then wanted to know who were these people. They started to intrigue our townsfolk (they already built the Great Library (stolen from us by 4 turns), the Great Wall, The Oracle, to name a few...) Some kamikaze then embarked on fresh new boats, sailing madly in all directions to find the Babylonian land. One made it and saw their borders, but sank in the process. The survivors managed to swim a couple of hundred miles to the coast and we finally made contact with the Babylonians and the French...
I actually thought the Babs had almost wiped their continents because I had not heard from anyone else and from the reports of some in the spoiler thread.Attached FilesComment
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The Virtues of Being Commercial (part 4)
In fact, the virtues of playing Civilization...
We exploited this advantage as much as we could. The western folks were much richer, because they had not been foolish like the eastern folks and have not been involved in any (damaging) war.
In fact, I never seen a Bab town with a french name, or the opposite; therefore my conclusion.
Techs were getting cheaper and I could get back where I belong (in the lead...) I bought some, sold them a couple of turns later the the eastern folks and researched techs the AIs does not go for.
As a matter of fact, I became rich because of my beeline for printing press and democracy. In this manner, I could sell this highly wanted tech for important ones, like astronomy (for Copernicus' Lab) and most of the lower branch.
One of my nice pile of rocks in London became Copernicus's Observatory. Half of my goal had been reached: I needed Adam's Smith to enter what historians will call a turning point in English history: Golden Age (referred as to GA) which became reality only a couple of turns later.
This period in time was great. The English republic researched techs at a 4 turn pace, while getting 100's of gold per turn. From 600 gold at the beginning of our GA, we ended with 4200!!!! During taht time, we finalized our infrastructure and built a couple of units. We also got JSB, Newtons and a 2-3 tech lead...
I think the game has been almost won there. It's not over yet, but I'm on cruising speed and going straight either for SS or Diplo win. Since the AI cannot organize a good overseas invasion, I will be at ease at home...
More updates soon!
--Kon--Attached FilesComment
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Nice going Konquest, you seem to be mastering the fine arts of AI diplomacy and tech trading. Those Man'O-Wars coming in handy?!
DominaeAnd her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...Comment
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Not really... I built a couple just for fun, but I don't really use them as I don't have any real ennemy...
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Then might I suggest -- Privateers?Originally posted by Konquest02
Not really... I built a couple just for fun, but I don't really use them as I don't have any real enemy...
--Kon--
If not for personal gain (i.e., AI's loss) then for encouraging the AI to build them.Comment
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Vikings vs. Japan
In our last episode we left the Scandinavians contemplating their fate. They had spotted a Samurai Army and the Egyptians had finished the Copernicus wonder. Their homeland had little infrastructure and cities produced nothing but galleys and medieval infantry. Our cities need aqueducts but we are stuck in a war and in Monarchy.
The fearless leader of the Vikings brought forth “TBNAID” (The Brand New and Improved Deal). TBNAID was a massive change in government policy. I cashed my communications for technology and an alliance against Japan. I traded my way to printing press and will research Democracy next. I’ll use my GA for an improvements building spree.
And the terrifying Samurai Army actually had two horsemen and only one Samurai. My first Veteran Medieval Infantry only lost two health points defeating this Army (I love the RNG).Attached FilesComment
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Good idea, I never build much of these guys... But I just hit the industrial age and have a lot to do right now...Originally posted by Jaybe
Then might I suggest -- Privateers?
If not for personal gain (i.e., AI's loss) then for encouraging the AI to build them.
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TBNAID was a success for the Viking people.
Inspired by their leader’s new plan, the Viking army was victorious in capturing 3 Japanese cities and creating a great leader. The leader was sent to wait at the new capital. A few years later the Viking People discovered Democracy and decided the new government would make Viking people more efficient.
After a short revolution our new government took over. Our GL was used to Rush Leonardo’s Workshop and so began the Viking GA. Libraries, Banks, Aqueducts, Universities, and Cathedrals began construction all over the nation. Gold and luxuries were used to acquire new technologies (which wasn’t easy since our reputation was ruined in an unfortunately culture flip).
Every deal imaginable to the Vikings was used to help the diplomatic progress of the nation. Soon we entered the Industrial era and discovered we were longer too far behind in tech. 9 turns later we do some massive military unit upgrading. Its cheap so everything is upgraded and the soon the Viking are dug in deep with riflemen.Attached FilesComment
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I finally got around to finishing my game, anticlimactic as it was. Egypt changed back to Democracy right after I gave them Babylon's last city, and I coasted to a space race victory in 1760 AD. I was on a 4-turn research pace ever since my last post (funded in part by Egypt's tech purchases), but the higher starship parts costs with the AU mod caught me off guard enough that I wasn't quite ready to launch when I traded to Egypt for Recycling (the last tech I needed to complete the ship, and one I'd deliberately delayed researching hoping Cleo would get it for me). Toward the end, Egypt made one last demand of me - this time for a luxury - and I was willing enough to give it to them to help ensure peace until I could launch my ship. By the way, two more techs and I would have made it all the way through the tech tree. My score was a rather unspactacular (for an Emperor-level victory) 3737.
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I wonder if Civ3 crashes or something when that happens...I've never made it all the way through the tech tree...Originally posted by nbarclay
By the way, two more techs and I would have made it all the way through the tech tree.
Seems like score is misleading in the early-game and non-indicative in the late-game. What's it good for?My score was a rather unspactacular (for an Emperor-level victory) 3737.
Apart from the qualms I mentioned earlier, very nice game, Nathan.
DominaeAnd her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...Comment
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Bragging rights to impress other people competing for the same bragging rights?Originally posted by Dominae
Seems like score is misleading in the early-game and non-indicative in the late-game. What's it good for? Seriously, I do like getting good scores, but having fun and building up an empire that's successful by my standards are a lot more important to me.
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