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  • #16
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    • #17
      The core cities have room to get large. There were a couple of decent settler pumps in the core. But it was really the failure of the Greeks and Romans to compete for territory well that let us get so much land.
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      • #18
        And I'ld like to get another town planted on the North East iron/horses island.
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        • #19
          Western border: it's pretty wierd to have so many cities right next to an AI civ's capital and we are hoping our culture builds keep flipping to a minimum.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by jshelr
            After 1700, we entered the pure land-grabbing phase. Our intent was to be everyone’s friend and avoid conflict like the plague. However, it may (do people agree?) make sense to do some strange settling far from home to try to pick off luxuries. We will see.
            Avoid conflict - of course. Very weird settling is contrary to that. I'd rather not put cities a tile away from AI ones, as this will spark aggression. This concerns your Dyes city, which looks like it could be placed farther away from the Roman one, while still giving you the luxury (yes, you'd have to road a tile ).

            Originally posted by jshelr
            1600 BC: Carthage and Rome showed up with horseback riding and writing. We have poly. Rome has 65 gold, but they are in better map position for the long haul. We decided to trade with Rome for both techs and 60 gold. But we would appreciate whether others feel trading with tundra-bound Carthage would have been the better move.
            Do both. Get the more expensive tech, and the gold from Rome, then get the other tech from Carthage. Thus, you have given favorable deals to both, so they will both like you for a while. And, you still get to drain Rome (take 65gp, not 60, of course).

            Originally posted by jshelr
            War between Greece and Rome is ongoing, and maybe Carthage is in the mix. Can’t tell and am not going to spring for an embassy when I can’t participate.
            Just having the embassy can slightly improve their attitude. And you want them to like you, no? They don't seem bothered, when you turn down proposed alliances, so it should be safe.

            Flipping to the Romans doesn't happen often, as their main goal is not culture.
            Seriously. Kung freaking fu.

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            • #21
              Modo, we were greedy and settled right on a lux source near Rome. We were also lucky as the next city, Cumae, actually flipped to us a bit later in the game

              Giving both civs good deals is an interesting idea. And you are probably right about the embassy. As in some games, I became overly fixated on the tech race instead of taking a balanced view of the big picture and didn't want to part with any gold I could avoid.
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              • #22
                AU Mod, Emperor

                After theory of Republic, our sages concentrated their effort into Map Making. It wasn't newest in the world, as even barbarian knew to build galley, yet no one knew it in our continent. And it's useful.

                Too bad not only AUmerican people thought like that way. Roman people mastered this skill in 900BC, 2 turns earlier than us! What is worse, that Greek people managed to write their own Code of Law in following turn. Obviously, they exchanged what they knew, completely broke my plan of tech trading.

                That left me 2 choices in 850BC. One was Mathematics, which was already known by Romans and Greeks. The other was Polytheism. No one had it yet, but I suspected Carthaginians were working on it, as they hadn't researched a tech for some time. I chose the latter.

                Carthaginian learned Code of Law in 775BC, which relieve me. I got Polytheism in 690BC, first. Then I sold it to Rome, for Mathematics and 85 golds.

                The Colossus of Washington was finished in 875BC. The Great Lighthouse project was soon started. Russian got Pyramids in 610BC.

                Meanwhile, our core cities started training spearmen to defend the country, especially the southern part. A RoP was signed with Rome, to speed up the reinforce process and not to irritate them due to misunderstanding. By 470BC, Our military was average compared to Greek and Carthage, and stronger than Rome It seems like lack of iron handicapped Rome seriously.

                US dollar was invented in 490BC. It's designed by Einstein?! Anyway, I didn't push him back to work immediately, as the Great Lighthouse of Washington was only 6 turns away, and other nations were chasing the Great Library and ToA (and SoZ). I didn't want a potential cascade ruin my work.

                Romans and Greeks got Construction in 470BC, and Rome had a 26gpt surplus at hand. Lucky! I sell Currency to them for all their golds (26gpt and 53g), then buy Construction from Greece for a price of Currency and 110 golds. Thus sending all three nations into middle age. Greece's free tech was Monotheism. I decided to research Feudalism.

                Map of 470BC, which is not much different from 1000BC's.
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