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  • #16
    Originally posted by alexman
    No, there is no good reason, although you should still not read your opponent's DAR until you have finished your game (to avoid reading about any of his plans that might be relevant in future DARs).
    I would put it in terms of, "Don't read any of your opponent's DARs without his or her permission." If things reach a point where the information in an early round of DARs is no longer sensitive, the players could agree to go ahead and give each other permission to read their early DARs.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Catt
      Civ IV ("CIV")
      That's clever. I probably should have know this by now

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      • #18
        Nathan, we have a bit of a problem... I am somehow missing a bonus resource in the vicinity of the start.

        If it's OK with you, I'd like to re-start. Thankfully, we are still so early in the game.

        Copacetic?
        The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

        Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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        • #19
          Uh, sorry... I had installed an alternative set of resource icons this week... the very stylized ones that I like... and forgot that they were pre-C3C!!!

          I just checked the tile by right-clicking, and of course, tropical fruit is there.

          Nathan, let me fix my resource files, and I'll send the last turn played back to you.

          /me the AU village idiot
          The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

          Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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          • #20
            Its really exciting to follow the different threads, hopefully i can improve my own shoddy play

            just a question Ive wanted to ask for some time, what is the meaning of settlerbopping ?

            Reading this makes my days at work go faster, got nuthing to do and everyone else is on vacation.

            crilloan
            longtime lurker

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            • #21
              Ummm, I think I came up with that sorta silly phrase. Early game, rather than going after enemy towns, focusing on nailing the ever present Settler and Warrior / Archer pairs. Easy targets, especially on open ground, and a huge loss for the enemy combined with two slave Workers for you.
              The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

              Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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              • #22
                a question on the DAR1 completion: it's unlikely that we'll know the complete continent map until navigation, because if you're at eternal war with xyz, you'll hardly get to see more of his/her core than that what you saw with initial scouting.

                could one say it's enough just to know the whole continent map as far as possible (excluding the inner territory of the other human player)?
                - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
                - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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                • #23
                  crilloan, welcome!

                  it was apolyton's strategy forum (now split up in strat and AU) with it's genius players that made me change the view of civ3 from "good turn based strategy game, just one more turn tonight" to "wow, what strategical depth, let's just complete this era".

                  i recommend you look through the strategy board's "must read threads" to really feel before these gods here (note: lots of strategies may be outdated because of changes to the game through expansion packs and patches, but still good reads )

                  and at this place, thanks to aeson, alexman, arrian, catt, dominae, sir ralph, theseus, velociryx, vmxa1 and all the others who deserve to be in this list but shamefully have been forgotten
                  - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
                  - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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                  • #24
                    I come back to civ3 every 6 months
                    (there is no abundance with turnbased strategygames around and moo3 made me cry (did I love moo2 or what! )

                    I remember reading vels strategythreads when they came, that was really good reading. Ive been enjoying the AU forum, must download the mod later.

                    My problem when playing is that I forget to build military, then I get really pissed when my neighbours attac me
                    Cant they see that im building the new babylon for the good of mankind !

                    after that everything goes downhill...

                    I am really looking forward to play a singleplayer version of this map, would be fun to manage something else than a cultural victory for once.

                    (if I survive, that is)

                    Keep on mailing those turns, its good reading for those of us that dont have vacation.

                    crilloan
                    longtime lurker

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sabrewolf
                      could one say it's enough just to know the whole continent map as far as possible (excluding the inner territory of the other human player)?
                      The problem here is that if you read another player's DAR who has revealed portions of the map that you haven't, you get useful information for your own game that you would not otherwise have. The fact that that the revealed land belongs to your opponent would make things worse.

                      If you're so anxious to read the spoilers, the solution is to finish your game as fast as possible.

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                      • #26
                        true

                        but still DAR1 will take until end of medieval to complete for some war-torn-games. DAR2 will be just a few turns later

                        at least the minimap of everyone, once rexing is over, would be sweet
                        - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
                        - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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                        • #27
                          You might have to start posting in your own DAR2 before being able to read other players' DAR1.

                          You should start posting in your second DAR as soon as you discover something that would qualify as a spoiler for DAR 1. Gunpowder or an offshore island, for example.

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                          • #28
                            This is my weekly plea for an SP version.

                            However I'm also starting to question if there should even be a SP version. I've enjoyed reading the DARS, but now I have too much advance knowledge of the map.

                            I don't recall ever feeling so "excluded" from an open/inclusive organization. I know it's not intentional but its pretty much how I feel at this point. Well I got to stop whining now, I'm starting to irritate myself

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                            • #29
                              Yes, I think it's time for the SP version now, but I do not have the scenario file, and I do not want to see it, since I'm still playing the MP version.

                              So we need a volunteer to set it up. Sir Ralph has already done enough for this course, so is there anyone else who will not play the SP version and would like to create the saves (AU mod and stock, Rome and Greece, Regent through Sid = 24 saves )

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                              • #30
                                Here's an idea for the SP crowd: they could try playing the existing AU 601 scenario in hotseat mode playing both Greece AND Rome. Granted, Greece and Rome would know each other's plans when they're played by the same player, but it would still provide a way to get a lot of the same experience as in a MP game. (Actually, I may try playing a hotseat AU 601 game myself once my game with Theseus reaches a point where I can do so without learning spoiler information. The trick would be making sure the hotseat game stays far enough behind the real one that I don't learn spoiler information.)

                                Nathan

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