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  • AU209 - No Gold For You!

    Welcome all to the latest AU course!

    A lot of things have been happening in the AU world in the past few weeks (the inauguration of of our first dean Nuclear Master, a bunch of polls on the future of AU, etc. etc.), but there has been a distinct lack of one thing: playing Civ3! Time to get back to the whole point of AU: learning through playing.

    The theme of this course is simple: playing as Catherine the Great of the Russians, you must win the game without ever triggering your Golden Age.

    Just as a reminder, meeting one of the following two conditions triggers your GA:

    1. Winning a battle with your Unique Unit (in this case, the Cossack).

    2. After building any Great Wonder, controlling one or more Great Wonders that match your civ traits (in this case, Scientific and Expansionist).

    I know, I know, using your civ's UU and planning your Golden Age are fun things to do in any given Civ3 game. But, as Tall Stranger recently pointed out, playing a game without the benefits a GA should be an interesting exercise to try at least once.

    Here are some of the scenario settings (everything else is standard):

    World Size: Standard
    World Age: 3 billion years
    Land Form: Continents
    Land Mass: 70%
    Barbarians: Raging

    Included in the attached zip file are 4000BC savegames for each difficulty other than Chieftain (no AU student should be playing Chieftain!). This is done to simply to avoid sneak peeks at the map when selecting the scenario. Also included is a list of rule modifications particular to the scenario, discussed presently.

    The games rules have been modified ever so slightly in this scenario. In order to make the Wonder-building aspect of this feat more challenging, flags have been added to some Wonders causing combinations of them trigger Russia's Golden Age more readily. Here is the list of altered Wonders, with an asterix indicating the new trait the Wonder has acquired:

    Pyramids: Industrious, Religious, *Scientific
    Sun Tzu's Art of War: Militaristic, *Expansionist
    Leonardo's Workshop: Militaristic, *Scientific
    Smith's Trading Company: Commercial, *Expansionist
    Hoover Dam: Industrious, *Scientific

    All other Wonders remain unchanged.

    Make sure you to double-check that you will not trigger your Golden Age whenever you build any Wonder! To repeat: you trigger the Russian Golden Age if you control a Scientific and an Expansionist Great Wonder whenever you complete any Great Wonder (regardless if it is Scientific or Expansionist).

    Another hint: do not build the Internet!

    Good luck, and have fun everyone. Do not forget to report on your games in the various DAR ("During Action Report") threads dedicated to this course.

    Update1: AU mod version available a few posts down.

    Update2: Here are links to the various DAR threads:

    DAR1: 4000BC-2150BC
    DAR2: Contact with all civs on home continent
    DAR3: Able to build Forbidden Palace
    DAR4: Contact with all other civs
    DAR5: Theory of Evolution
    DAR6: Everything else
    Attached Files
    19
    Yes! Cossacks suck anyway!
    36.84%
    7
    No, I would prefer some other civ (please specify).
    10.53%
    2
    No, anything is better than Russia's traits.
    15.79%
    3
    Give me a banana and I'll play any civ.
    36.84%
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    Last edited by Dominae; September 2, 2003, 23:05.
    And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

  • #2
    Here's a screenshot of the start location. And yes, I'm aware the irony of the proximity of Gold in a scenario named "No Gold For You!".


    Dominae
    Attached Files
    And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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    • #3
      Noticeable omissions:

      1. A stock Civ3 version. This did not seem to be missed with Gargantua, so I hope it's not missed here either.

      2. An AU mod version. The AU mod has not been touched in a long time, so I'm uncomfortable playing with it. If there is enough interest, I could easily provide an AU mod version of this game. However, I suggest I be left alone and you all play with what you're given. Edit: I caved, and so the AU mod version is now available.


      Dominae
      Last edited by Dominae; August 29, 2003, 18:41.
      And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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      • #4
        Cool! Good to see a new scenario come out! And thanks for creating a screen shot thus taking away my need for demanding one.

        Good luck everyone, and let's see those detailed AARs!
        badams

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        • #5
          I give this AU course full certification

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          • #6
            Edit: Double Post.
            Last edited by badams52; August 26, 2003, 19:50.
            badams

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            • #7
              Oh, now that's just rude disallowing some of the best wonders to avoid a golden age.

              I'll give this one a go as soon as I have some time to play it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rhothaerill
                Oh, now that's just rude disallowing some of the best wonders to avoid a golden age.
                The only explicity barred Wonder is the Internet (since it triggers a GA for any civ). You can build/control any Wonder you want, it's the combination of Wonders that's restricted.

                By the way, you can still make use of the Leo's and Sun Tzu's combo, but you need to capture at least one of them (and then avoid building any other Wonder!).


                Dominae
                And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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                • #9
                  It will certainly make you think about which wonder is the "most important" of the commonly held "good" wonders.

                  I was just railing since I won't be able to build Hoover, Smith, and Leo in the same game.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nuclear Master
                    I give this AU course full certification.
                    Oh, I thought you had given me the go-ahead a couple of weeks ago. It took me that long to get my act together!


                    Dominae
                    And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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                    • #11
                      This will definitely be interesting..

                      I'm expecting lots of early wars to secure a big chunk of the land, to secure my win earlier.

                      Wonder building and city capture will be interesting. I'll probably concentrate on building either all scientific or expansionist wonders (along with others that won't trigger GA)..

                      It's a shame about some of the changes that's been made to the wonders, I'd really like to have Hoovers and Smith's together, looks like I'll have to go the scientific route and capture the other wonders I want in the modern age.

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                      • #12
                        I did Dom. Just wanted to sound official. Hehe

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                        • #13
                          Now that is just an ugly start. I just love Adams, you are so mean.
                          Maybe I can get at this in a couple of days, up to firaxis.

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                          • #14
                            Don't know when I'll have a chance to play, but I'm game.

                            I'll suggest a voluntary rule for those interested -- not binding on anyone of course -- no gifting of cities containing Wonders. On reading the description of the game, my first thought (shame, shame, Catt ) was to effectively "control" many of the wonders by gifting certain cities to certain civs -- such gifts to be retaken upon need.

                            Catt

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                            • #15
                              so you can capture all of the wonders as long as you don't build any?

                              (I know this isn't the only way but it might be my way )
                              Proud Member of the ISDG Apolyton Team; Member #2 in the Apolyton Yact Club.
                              King of Trafalgar and Lord of all Isolationia in the Civ III PTW Glory of War team.
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