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  • #16
    Originally posted by Theseus
    I meant the final BETA patch, which Jesse says will be next Friday, 1/16.

    The big concern will be whether the corruption model in that BETA will be maintained in the final patch, but I can live with that. Heck, if need be, we can re-play the course.

    (Interesting idea to offer up to Jesse, btw: If Firaxis is still really torn up about which way to on corruption, which it seems they are... what if AU played out its first C3C course with half of the people using the PTW corruption model and half using the C3C BETA 1.14 model? We could invite a bunch of the CFCers and other site pros in on it too.)
    I happen to like this idea very much. Not only will the AU be advertised due to this but we would be helping the speed and quality of the next Beta Patch. If no one has any major objections to this I will send a PM to Jesse.

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    • #17
      I'd rather we did half on 1.14(which is supposed to be a return to PtW-style) and half on 1.12(which Jesse and Soren have been quoted as saying was the way it was meant to be all along).
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      • #18
        ducki, from my understanding, here is what we've got in terms of coruuption models:

        * Vanilla/PTW - Two cores.
        * BETA 1.12 - Broken
        * BETA 1.13 - Higher OCN

        I am anticipating that Firaxis may be intending to keep the 1.13 model for 1.14 and perhaps the final patch, and suggesting that we have a week to help them decide.
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        • #19
          Ah, according to posts elsewhere, 1.14 was to be a return to PtW - two cores - with a note that this was due to feedback, as the 1.13 version was the original intended model.

          Either way, I'm just glad the gpt thing is fixed and there's progress, not to mention actual public releases of the beta patches. I'll play with whatever is decided upon here.

          (It's possible the 1.14 pre-release notes were bogus, or even that I misread them.)
          "Just once, do me a favor, don't play Gray, don't even play Dark... I want to see Center-of-a-Black-Hole Side!!! " - Theseus nee rpodos

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          • #20
            I recall seeing that PtW was as intended, and that sorting this all out has more to do with layers of code and sorting them all out than anything else.

            btw, could someone let me know when you start the next scenario? I don't check in here much and am looking for something a bit different from the old random epic games on my own. AU sounds like it might hit the spot.
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            • #21
              No problem, nye. When the first AU C3C game goes up (post BETA 1.14, seems to be the thinking), I'm hoping that we launch a PR salvo.

              Speaking of which, NM...
              The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

              Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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              • #22
                after patching with 1.13, every city in my game had less corruption (i had to go to every city view and realign the people).

                my capital lost the last unproductive shield (going from 39 to 40 shields), all other cities were at least a bit better. the FP city was nearly perfect (corruption around 10%) and the useless larger cities actually got better too (thanks to the max 90% corruption idea).

                until now, this corruption model is my favorite! but i can understand a lot of people wanting the 2-core-system come back because they're used to it!
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Theseus
                  No problem, nye. When the first AU C3C game goes up (post BETA 1.14, seems to be the thinking), I'm hoping that we launch a PR salvo.

                  Speaking of which, NM...


                  The scenario is ready to go whenever. But the question is when to play it? The final patch or 1.14?

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                  • #24
                    as AU isn't really competitive, why don't you launch it soonish and everyone can chose their favorite way to play it?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sabrewolf
                      as AU isn't really competitive, why don't you launch it soonish and everyone can chose their favorite way to play it?

                      I speak for myself when I say this but I personally would find it more fun if everyone played the same way for comparison reasons.

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                      • #26
                        Here's what I just learned: There will be no more beta patches, except for 1.15Localization, out "ASAP", which fixes some issues on non-US versions.

                        1.15 is the last patch, until the end of February.

                        So let's start the game already!
                        Should we give one week for the word to get around? Perhaps release a screenshot of the starting position so
                        we have something to talk about in the meantime?

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                        • #27
                          so, will the first C3C-AU-game be a sort of "play da new stuff". eg. must be a new civ with at least one of the new traits seafaring&agricultural, you must try at least one new governement (feudalism, fascism)?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by alexman
                            1.15 is the last patch, until the end of February.

                            So let's start the game already!
                            Should we give one week for the word to get around? Perhaps release a screenshot of the starting position so
                            we have something to talk about in the meantime?
                            I'm on it.


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by alexman
                              Should we give one week for the word to get around?
                              "Why wait? Friday is always a good day to start!" said the biased Father/Husband who's very limited computer time is durning the weekend

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                              • #30
                                I think we should wait because we might get more participation if people know it's coming. Give some time for the word to get around. And eager anticipation is good too! Also, the AU mod is not yet ready.

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