Colossus + HG in one City

[ramses II.]

I get it sometimes: Hanging Gardens and Colossus in one city - that gives your civ a boost in income and science. It's easy to keep this city celebrating.
Do you try to get this constellation, too?
(In most of my games the AI builds ther Colossus, for I put my focus on Marco Polo's and other WoW).

[Ming]

Add the science wonders, and you have a super science city

[La Fayette]

Many players use that combo, but solo now achieves extraordinary results without HG ( Shakes ASAP in the SSC)

[DrSpike]

I think most players that weren't immediately on the warpath would get that combo.

[ramses II.]

@Ming
I often build the Gardens in my capital - and normally the site is too bad for a SSC. In the beginning, I waste about 200 years searching a good site - but I usually don't find a 4 special site int that time.
If my settlers stand on a river with a whale or wheat or pheasant in the city radius, I will found my capitol immediately.

[Scouse Gits]

HG and Colossus in the same city are powerful. An interesting variation is Xin's Off Shore Gardens strategy. The Colossus is built in the capital or SSC but the Gardens are placed on an island. With both cities celebrating the trade routes between both centres are considerable. This also forms the beginning of the Two Continent trading technique.

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SG(2)

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

I like the offshore Colossus strategy - you can grow 2 cities to a decent size and keep them celebrating for a while - good for internal trade obviously. The problem is that it can be a slow strategy to develop - you need MapMaking, of course, and often Colossus is taken by that point.

Depending on city sites and how soon I get Trade (for wonder building with Caravans), I sometimes wind up with both HG and Col in the same city. I usually want to get HG pretty fast, so it usually gets built in my capital or one of my first 2-3 cities - which may not be SSC-suitable. If it is SSC-suitable, I always build the Colossus there as well if I can. Getting the big early arrow bonuses is huge.

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
l. An interesting variation is Xin's Off Shore Gardens strategy. The Colossus is built in the capital or SSC but the Gardens are placed on an island
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SG(2)

I had a similar 'island strategy'. The problem is corruption: if you use an island far away, you get big bonuses but corruption is high.
(IIRC samson tried it and came to the conclusion that road/RR to a foreign city is more efficient)

[Caesar the Great]

in recent months i've become a big fan of making lots of big cities in republic and giving up the science wonders

[DrSpike]

For a challenge or because you're insane?

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by DrSpike
For a challenge or because you're insane?

I bet CtG's scheme involves LOTS of caravans/freight. If so, then I could see how the science wonders would be pretty much meaningless...

[DrSpike]

Hehe maybe, but I'm greedy. Lots of trade = lots of beakers, but more so with science wonders.

[War4ever]

i dont build hg anymore, i feel its a crutch for the weaker player just had to bring that up again.

actually b/c i don't prioritize early wonders in mp, i almost never get hg in the rah group, i let rah build it so hes competitive j/k

i prefer pyramids, i can stay in monarchy longer and have a nice military while expanding like the dickens and not losing much in growth.

pyramids is key for rough terrain, allows more sets to team toghether for thos roads , trying to set up optimum routes....

besides once i hit republic, celebrating is easy cuz the buildings are already in place.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by War4ever
i dont build hg anymore, i feel its a crutch for the weaker player just had to bring that up again.

actually b/c i don't prioritize early wonders in mp, i almost never get hg in the rah group, i let rah build it so hes competitive j/k

Does rah ever whack you over the head with that crutch?

STYOM (one of those weak players )

[SCG]

Originally posted by War4ever
i dont build hg anymore, i feel its a crutch for the weaker player just had to bring that up again.

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