Barbarian activity question.

[Scouse Gits]

Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida
3) There is never more than one barbarian unit from a hut before 1500bc, (50 turns of play in deity).

The position of the single Barb can be predicted. Starting from 4000BC (assuming you have founded your capital) he will appear on the square east of the hut. In 3950BC this will change to the square SE of the hut...3900BC it will be south of the hut...and continues in a clockwise pattern around the compass points.

If you have a unit on the square where the Barb should appear it will move around. On a few occasions when the hut is near water tiles the barb may disappear.

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[War4ever]

really....does this mean that you can block the barb from coming out....and say get a different result?

[Scouse Gits]

No...the result is always a Barb. If you have a unit on the square where he is due to appear he will skip around to another tile. The early Barbs from huts are always single horses, except when they appear on a mountain, then it's a Legion.
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[Straybow]

On huge maps with huts late in the game it's a good idea to hunt with armies of Dips. They can surround the hut except for a few tiles, then bribe the units that appear. Limit the number of open adjacent tiles to the number of units you can afford to bribe, and you're set.

[War4ever]

Scouse Gits.....later in the game is it conceivable then that if you covered every square....that you would get an empty hut on one that would generally contain barbs or would the result be something different???

[Scouse Gits]

Straybow - you can afford to hut hunt with eight dips?! We can't!
War - we play deity/raging - we don't get empty huts

The SGs thoroughly lubricated

[Marquis de Sodaq]

Originally posted by War4ever
Scouse Gits.....later in the game is it conceivable then that if you covered every square....that you would get an empty hut on one that would generally contain barbs or would the result be something different???

I think you'd get the same result as a barbarian hut on a one-tile island - a message about barbarians, but none actually appear.

[Scouse Gits]

War ... I understand your question now! We had a bottle too many last night.

I agree with Marquis...but I have not tested it.

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[geofelt]

Hunt for huts on the poles. If you get barbs, they seem to disappear without attacking.
I have stopped tipping huts after founding my first city. I seem to get more than my share of barbs, and is not worth it. Instead, I tip them when they are in a city radius so I get only good things.

[finbar]

Barbs out of a hut will sometimes head off in another direction without attacking. Particularly if you've opened the hut with a diplomat. I have no idea why.

[War4ever]

hehe Scouse Git(s) thats ok...i rarely play anything less than deity raging hordes myself...anything else would be uncivilised

Has anyone tested this out...whether or not it would change the sequence of huts.....to say money or a tech... i suppose a unit is possible too...

or do you get the barb message and then "poof" they disappear as Marquis has suggested?

I do know that opening a hut from different angles produces different results

testing 1-2-3

[rah]

Originally posted by War4ever
Has anyone tested this out...whether or not it would change the sequence of huts.....to say money or a tech... i suppose a unit is possible too...
or do you get the barb message and then "poof" they disappear as Marquis has suggested?

I do know that opening a hut from different angles produces different results

testing 1-2-3

You get the barb message and then poof, is my experience.

What were the results of the different angles? Since it changes when you reload, they must have done a heck of a lot of tests to show significant difference on that.

RAH

[Marquis de Sodaq]

IIRC, the only direction testing involved bribery cost. In that case, the direction from which your diplo/spy approaches (in relation to the target's capitol) does affect the cost.

I suspect the rumour of direction affecting hut outcomes is nothing more than a rumour. As you point out, that would take a mind-numbing number of reloads...

[Julius Brenzaida]

Good question this of the angle of the approach of the hut
What's more, it is oubvious that the terrain on the hut has some effect too, but which one precisely

[geofelt]

The outcome of huts is random, I suspect that the angle of approach theory is just statistical variation. That said, I seem to get a premonition before I get an advanced tribe.