OCC "fortnight" #24 - no wonders

[Paul]

Winston has sent me the 3700 BC save of his no wonders game, which will serve as OCC #24. Besides the usual OCC rules, the only wonder you are allowed to build is the Apollo Program. You are not allowed to build any other wonders in OCC #24.

Download here. Original thread here.
[This message has been edited by Paul (edited March 06, 2001).]

[Ribannah]

There is something very strange with this map. Look at where the wheat and the buffalo are located, this is not the normal pattern, and it's not on the meridian!

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If you have no feet, don't walk on fire

[Winston]

This is a randomly generated map, and I see no discrepancy here. Specials don't necessarily have to fit the pattern, as not all specials will be visible until terrain changes/transformations are performed.

In this case you don't have enough information to determine if they fit the pattern. Besides, the city site wasn't chosen because of specials, rather to get as many river squares as possible.

[Smash]

This was fairly tough.Only 2 specials.I had a heckuva time with tech choices.Especially when I wanted Superconductor.It was touch and go at the end as I came under heavy advanced weapon assault.Tanks,marines,fighters and bombers.It became a matter of survival so I launched without Fusion.Good thing as Japan built a max ship that would landed in 1982.I'm just happy to have made it.

deity 2.42

Arrival-1977ad


Monarchy-1850bc
Republic-325bc
Democracy-1020ad


Trade-875bc
Construction-425bc
Sanitation-320ad
Refrigeration-1750ad
Automobile-1864ad
Computers-1898ad
Space Flight-1914ad

Apollo-1915

1.425bc
2.400bc
3.375bc

12-175bc
21-1768ad(19 460ad)

3550-contact Mongols-peace
3450-Alphabet-trade Mongols for Burial-warrior
3300-hut-100 gold
3250-warrior
3150-contact French-trade for Bronze Working-peace
2950-Carths destroyed by barbs-hut 50 gold-
2900-hut-supported chariot
2800-hut 50 gold
2550-Code of Laws
2500-wheat>silk-hut 25
2450-trade French for Currency
2400-temple
2300-hut non archer
2150-contact Greeks-peace
1950-hut-non horseman
1900-Monarchy-revolt(at end of turn)-trade Greeks for Map Making-trade Mongols for Warrior Code-hut non horse
1850-Govt-Monarchy-hut-Mysticism
1800-trade French for Writing
1750-library-
1700-contact Japan-trade for Masonary and Horseback-alliance-share maps-receive 150-alliance with Greeks-share maps with Greeks and French
1600-hut 25 gold
1550-trade Japan for The Wheel
1300-contact Persia-pay 50 for ceasefire-Japan gifts 25
1250-Greeks gift 25-peace with Persia-French pay 50 tribute
1100-market
1050-japan gifts 25-Persia declares war
950-we love the king-contact Aztecs-peace-trade for Pottery-share maps-diplomat
900-hut-non archer-Greeks gift 50-pay Persia 50 for ceasefire
875-Trade-granary
850-bribe barb archer 61
825-wine caravan
800-size 5-end we love the king-trade French for Literacy-receive tribute 50-Japan gifts 100-Greeks cancel alliance
775-hides caravan
750-gems caravan-Aztecs tribute 50
700-hides caravan
675-gold caravan-Aztecs tribute 50
625-size 6
600-Japan gifts 50
575-dye caravan-alliance with Mongols-receive 50-alliance with Greeks-Aztecs tribute 25
550-bribe barb archer(non)61
450-size 7
425-Construction-wine to Orleans 50 bonus
400-colliseum-hides to Orleans 50 bonus
375-gems to Orleans(demanded) 150 bonus
350-The Republi-revolt
325-govt-Republic-trade french for Iron Working-Japan gifts 50-peace with Persia-Greeks gift 50-mongols 25
300-”we love” size 7
250-aquaduct-trade Japan for Poly-Greeks gift 50-Mongols 25
200-coal caravan
175-end “we love” 12-dye to Orleans 98 gold 98
150-Philosophy>Banking-dye caravan-hides to Paris(demanded)172
100-bank-trade French For Math-Aztecs gift 50-Greeks 50
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AD1-Monotheism
20-cathedral
100-wine caravan
140-Japan gifts 25
200-Medicine-Japan gifts 25-alliance with Fraench-trade for Astronomy-receive 200-dye to Orleans 112 coal 112-Greeks gift 150
220-trade Aztecs for Engineering
260-Mongols cancel alliance
320-Sanitation-(we love) 12-
340-sewer system-Japan gifts 50-Greeks 50
400-Japan gifts 100-Greeks 50
460-diplomat-end “we love”19(no more food)
500-bribe barb trireme(non) 82
540-University-wine to Paris(demanded)274-bribe barb legion 82-Japan gifts 100
560-build university
580-barb leader 150-trade French for Seafaring
620-Bridge Building
640-city walls-Japan gifts 50-Greeks 100
720-bribe barb horse 41
740-wine caravan
760-Economics-dye caravan-Japan gifts 50-French 25
800-stock exchange
900-Invention-trade Persia for Chemistry-Japan gifts 100-French 50
920-wine to Osaka(demanded)217
940-dye to Osaka 90
960-French gift 50
980-Democracy
1000-revolt
1020-govt-Democracy-trade Aztecs for Navigation-Greeks gift 200
1060-gold caravan
1080-dye caravan
1120-Japan gifts 75-French 100-Greeks cancel alliance
1140-Gunpowder
1240-trade French for Physics-receive 50-Japan gifts 150
1260-Explosives
1280-engineer
1300-bribe barb legion 82
1320-engineer-gold to Tenochtitlan 127 dye 127
1360-Magnetism
1380-Japan gifts 100-French 100
1400-gold caravan
1440-dye caravan
1480-Metallurgy-Japan gifts 150
1520-French cancel alliance
1550-Electricity-trade French for Steam Engine-trade Aztecs for Feudalism
1560-Japan gifts 100
1580-gold to Tlatelolco 117 dye 117
1610-Railroad-Japan gifts 100
1630-gold caravan-Japan gifts 100
1650-barb leader 150
1660-dye caravan
1680-Gravity-trade French for Conscription
1750-Refrigeration-ouch-gold to Tlatelolco 76 dye 76
1752-Japan gifts 100-trade Aztecs for Chivalry
1756-super market-”we love” 17
1762-gold caravan
1764-trade Aztecs for Industrialization and Theology(Darwin’s)
1766-dye caravan
1768-Leadership
1772-Japan cancels alliance
1776-end “we love” 25
1786-wine caravan-The Corporation-gold to Tenochtitlan 88-dye to Tlatelolco(demanded)148
1792-oil freight
1798-Steel
1802-wine to Sparta(demanded)75
1810-”we love” 25
1812-Refining-end “we love” 26-sell sewer-French Declare war-Japan declares war-trade Aztecs for Electronics
1814-sell aquaduct
1818-barracks-trade Aztecs for Tactics
1822-alpine troop-oil to Persepolis 126
1824-alpine troop-trade French for Atomic Theory-peace
1826-trade Japan for Fundamentalism
1828-Communism
1846-Combustion-dam no Auto-bad game as far as tech choices go
1850-dye freight
1851-cloth freight
1856-Flight
1858-dye to Tlatelolco(demanded) 159
1859-cloth to Texcoco(demanded)184
1864-Automobile
1865-superhighways
1866-gold freight
1867-cloth freight
1870-Mass Production
1874-Japan declares war-gold to Osaka 137
1876-Radio
1879-Greeks sneak attack-trade Aztecs for Mobile Warfare
1880-barracks-peace with Greeks
1882-armor-French declare war
1884-Machine Tools-fighter
1885-gold freight
1886-cloth freight
1892-Miniaturization-cloth to Kagoshima(demanded)265
1893-gold to Tlatelolco 148
1894-cloth freight
1898-Computers
1899-research lab
1900-wine freight
1904-Advanced Flight
1906-war with Greece-raze nearby city
1907-cloth to Kagoshima(demanded)265
1909-Rocketry
1912-gold to Persepolis(demanded)162
1914-Space Flight-gold freight
1915-Apollo
1918-Japan declares war
1920-Plastics
1921-gold to Kagoshima 101
1922-Japan sinks my trireme-tis a sad day
1926-Nuclear Fission-French declare war
1930-15 structurals ready
1933-Nuclear Power
1941-The Laser-steal Genetic Engineering form France
1942-steal Espionage from France
1947-steal Amphibious Warfare from France
1951-Robotics
1960-Superconductor
1963-sell research lab
1964-launch 21-5-5-1-1-1 no fusion-a matter of survival now-sell university
65-sell library
74-Japan launches max ship eta 1982
1977-ARRIVAL AC

[Winston]

Argh! You beat me by one measly year, Smash! Oh, did I mention this is a no Wonders, no Oedo-years challenge? I never go by the Oedo years in my games...

I'll get my reconstructed log together Sunday or Monday and post it here for comparison.

[Marko_Polo]

I tried this challenge but I failed. I lose to Mongol aggression. It's 1950, I have space flight discovered, got loads of food caravans but don't have time to build that ship.

My strat was to give all techs to all as soon as I got them and doing that I gave Mongols superior military. They have conquered almost all other civs (!) and now they are attacking me from two fronts. Their howies kill even my fortified vet mech infs on hill fortresses. I have Carthagians as ally to my south who are trying to help me out but that's not enough. Each turn the Mongols hurl 4-10 armors/howies and now even bombers and my men are dying like flies. They have killed all my pollution-cleaning engineers so my city is suffocating of toxic waste. My farm lands are all poisoned and my once beautiful 30-sized metropoly is only 24 anymore Last turn one of their spies even poisoned my water supplies (first time AI has done that to me) and I conceded.

There is one more thing: I was unlucky not to be able to build recurring trade caravans/freights (unlike Smash). So I ended up building tons of food caravans because I didn't had anything else to build.

Altogether, this was an exiting game even when I didn't won. It was fun watching Mongols conquer first Japan and then French city by city and moving closer to my city. This is the first time I have witnessed an AI civ's successful conquest campaign against other AI civs, at least in modern time. Usually I'm supreme and they all ally against me but now I actually was good friends with Carths during the whole game and we are fighting against a mutual enemy.. it's fun for a change!

Hmm.. now thinking of it I could give up the OCC challenge and start conquesting the Mongols in turn I have already destroyed a few of their cities they had build next to mine, but I could as well take them and let them take the blows. Meanwhile I could have peace in the capital to send reinforcements to those new border cities.. that could be fun too!

[Ribannah]

quote: Originally posted by Marko_Polo on 03-13-2001 08:28 AM I tried this challenge but I failed. I lose to Mongol aggression. It's 1950, I have space flight discovered, got loads of food caravans but don't have time to build that ship.

In my game (MGE) the Mongols never built a second city, and got obliterated by my one ally the Japanse two years before my spaceship landed in '72.

The last time my citizens felt like producing a commodity was in 1770 ....
On the bright side, Rome grew to size 33
Log will follow later.


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If you have no feet, don't walk on fire

[solo]

Thanks to Winston for a fun game.

I was able to wheel and deal technologies and learn quickly with 5 long-lasting alliances and embassies everywhere, but as soon as I got space flight, I almost did not survive the onslaught while building my rocket, which arrived in 1930.

Will post the log after it is typed up.

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OCC #24, no wonders except Apollo

Deity 2.42

Arrival - 1930 AD

Republic - 925 BC
Democracy - 1020 AD
Fundamentalism - 1915 AD

Construction - 950 BC
Trade - 550 BC
Sanitation - 420 AD
Refrigeration - 1776 AD
Automobile - 1828 AD
Computers - 1858 AD
Space Flight - 1889 AD

Apollo - 1890 AD

Route 1 - 300 BC
Route 2 - 25 BC
Route 3 - 40 AD

Size 12 - 425 BC
Size 21 - 1820 AD
Size 31 - 1842 AD

3550 Mongols: peace
3500 Alphabet, Mongols: trade for Ceremonial Burial
3150 French: war
3000 settlers
2900 Mysticism from hut
2750 warrior, size 2, settler joins Rome, size 3
2700 Code of Laws
2650 wheat mined into silk
2400 temple
2300 hut: barbarians
2250 barbarians kill horseman
2050 Writing
1650 library
1500 Literacy
1400 diplomat
1350 Carthaginians: war
1150 diplomat
1100 Carthaginians: give tech, peace, alliance
French: give tech, peace, alliance
975 diplomat, Republic
950 Japanese: war
French: trade for Bronze Working, Currency, Construction, no gift
Carthaginians: trade for Map Making, share maps, no gift
925 government to Republic, horseman from hut
Japanese: give tech, peace, alliance, trade for Horseback Riding
900 WLTCD starts at 3
875 hut: 50g
825 hut: 50g
French: give Map Making, trade maps
800 colosseum, size 8, WLTCD stops
Carthaginians: give tech, 25g gift
French: trade for Masonry and Pottery, share maps
775 Japanese: trade for Monarchy
700 hut: Math
650 Japanese: alliance vs. the Aztecs
Carthaginians: trade for Warrior Code, 50g gift
625 marketplace
600 Aztecs: war, establish embassy
550 Philosophy, Trade
French: give tech
Japanese: trade for Seafaring, 75g gift
Carthaginians: give tech, 50g gift
525 aqueduct, WLTCD starts at 8
500 barbarian leader, 150g
Mongols: war
475 wine
425 size 12, WLTCD stops
400 gems
375 Carthaginians: trade for Iron Working, give tech, share maps
French: give tech
325 gold, Japanese: give tech, share maps
300 wine(d) to Edo, 140g
250 dye
225 French: give tech, share maps
200 University, French: trade for The Wheel
175 coal
150 Carthaginians: give tech, 50g gift
Japanese: give tech, 75g gift
125 Mongols: peace, give tech, share maps, alliance
100 university
50 diplomat, Carthaginians: 50g gift
25 gems(d) to Osaka, 336g

AD years

1 Bridge Building
20 food
40 gold to Rheims, 86g
60 diplomat, Mongols: give tech, share maps
French: give tech, share maps
100 diplomat
Japanese: trade for Polytheism, share maps, 75g gift, embassy established
160 food, Medicine, dye(d) to Utica, 204g
Mongols: give tech, share maps
220 food, bribe barbarian legion and trireme in southern ocean
hut: Astronomy
260 Japanese: trade for Engineering, 150g gift
French: trade for Banking, give them 50g
Carthaginians: establish embassy, give tech, 50g gift
280 bank
300 Persians: war, Monotheism, coal to Kyoto, 164g
320 cathedral
340 hut: barbarians
380 food, Aztecs: war
420 Sanitation
440 sewer system, WLTCD starts at 12
520 wine
540 WLTCD stops at 15, bribe barbarian legion
Carthaginians: give tech, 100g gift
620 Economics
Carthaginians: trade for Theory of Gravity, 100g gift
Japanese: give tech, 150g gift
640 stock exchange
Mongols: give tech, share maps, 100g gift
660 wine(d) to Edo, 190g
French: give tech, share maps, 50g gift
bribe French phalanx
680 French: establish embassy
700 food
720 Mongols: Invention as a gift
740 diplomat, Chemistry
760 gold, Japanese: trade for Feudalism, no gift
820 food
900 Democracy
960 food, French: trade for Navigation, share maps, 25g gift
Japanese: give tech, share maps, no gift
Carthaginians: give tech, share maps, no gift
Mongols: give tech, no gift
Persians: peace, alliance, gold to Panoramus, 60g
1000 revolution
1020 food, government to Democracy
1060 WLTPD starts at 15
1080 gold
1100 Chivalry, Carthaginians: trade for Physics, 50g gift
Japanese: give Physics, 75g gift
1120 food, WLTPD stops at 17
1140 Persians trade for Gunpowder, share maps, no gift
1160 food
1180 food
1200 Japanese: trade for Magnetism, give them 50g
Mongols: establish embassy, give tech
1220 food, Aztecs: war forever
1280 food, Explosives, give it to the French
1300 Persians: establish embassy
French: give them Magnetism
1320 engineers, Carthaginians: 100g gift
1340 engineers, give Feudalism to French
1380 food, Carthaginians: trade for Steam Engine, 150g gift
French: give Steam Engine, 50g gift
1420 Mongols: give Steam Engine, 100g gift
1440 Atomic Theory
1460 food, gold(d) to Caralis, 165g
1500 diplomat
1520 food, Japanese: trade for Metallurgy, 125g gift
French: give them Metallurgy, 100g gift
Persians: give them Metallurgy, 25g gift
1540 give Magnetism to Persians
1560 granary, Leadership, barbarian leader, 150g
Carthaginians: trade for Railroad, give them 150g
Persians: give them Railroad
1570 bribe barbarian legion
1580 food, WLTPD starts at 16
French: trade for Conscription, give some tech
Japanese: give Conscription, no gift
1590 food
1600 bribe barbarian crusader, give Railroad to Japanese
1610 gold, barbarian leader, 150g
Aztecs: refuse to talk, steal Industrialization
Japanese: give them Industrialization
Carthaginians: ditto, 200g gift
Persians: ditto, 50g gift
Mongols: ditto
1620 wine, WLTPD stops at 19
1640 engineers, Aztecs sink trireme and dragoon
1650 Electricity, Persians: give tech, 50g gift
1660 food, Carthaginians about to build Darwin’s
1670 Carthaginians: trade for Communism and Fundamentalism
Japanese: Give them Communism and Fundamentalism, 100g gift
Mongols: ditto, 50g gift
French: ditto, 100g gift
1680 food, Persians: trade for Tactics
Japanese: give them Tactics
Carthaginians: ditto
French: ditto, 100g gift
1700 diplomat, Japanese: trade for Corporation, 200g gift
French: give them Corporation, 100g gift
Mongols: ditto, no gift
1720 food
1740 food
1750 Espionage, Mongols: give tech, 50g gift
1752 oil
1756 food
1758 gold(d) to Caralis, 120g, wine to Kyoto, 66g
1760 food
1764 engineers
1766 spy, Steel, give it to Carthaginians
Mongols: give Electricity, 50g gift
1768 food, give Corporation to Carthaginians
1772 food
1776 food, Carthaginians: trade for Refrigeration
1780 food
1784 gold
1788 gems, Refining, oil to Pasargade, 122g
French: give Refining, 100g gift
1792 hides, Persians: trade for Guerilla Warfare, no gift
Carthaginians: give them Guerilla Warfare
1794 French: give them 200g gift, hides to Tours, 34g
1796 hides
1800 hides
1804 hides
1806 Combustion, French: give them Combustion, no gift
gold(d) to Osaka, 236g, gems to Kyoto, 96g
1808 gold, Japanese: trade for Amphibious Warfare, 200g gift
Mongols: give them Amphibious Warfare, 50g gift
1810 French: trade for Electronics, give tech 25g gift
Japanese: give Electronics
1812 oil, 2 mountains now irrigated plains, WLTPD starts at 18,
bribe 2 barbarian dragoons
1816 supermarket
1820 food, size 21
1822 Carthaginians: trade for Machine Tools, no gift
Persians: give Machine Tools, 200g gift
Mongols: give Machine Tools, 100g gift
1828 Automobile, Mongols destroyed by the French
Japanese: give Automobile, 75g gift
Carthaginians: ditto, no gift
French: ditto, 50g gift
gold(d) to Osaka, 264g
1830 superhighways, oil to Kyoto, 208g
1832 Japanese: trade for Mobile Warfare, pay demand for 400g
Carthaginians: give them Mobile Warfare
1834 food
1836 food
1840 Miniaturization
French: give them Miniaturization, 50g gift
Japanese: ditto, 150g gift
1842 WLTPD stops at size 31
1846 food, Persians: trade for Flight, 200g gift
1848 dye
1852 gold, Mass Production
Persians: give Mass Production, 200g gift
Japanese: ditto, no gift
Carthaginians: ditto, no gift
1853 mass transit
1855 gems
1858 Computers, Carthaginians: trade for Nuclear Fission
1860 Persians: give Computers, 400g gift
Carthaginians: give Theology
Japanese: trade for Radio, 50g gift
1861 factory, Persians destroyed by the Japanese
1862 gold(d) to Osaka, 350g
1863 hydro plant
1864 city walls, Advanced Flight, dye(d) to Kyoto, 278g
1865 gold, Aztecs destroyed by the Japanese
Carthaginians: give Advanced Flight
1866 barracks
1867 food
1868 food, French: give tech, 200g gift
1869 food, Nuclear Power
French: give Advanced Flight, 150g gift
1870 food
1871 food
1872 food, French destroyed by the Carthaginians
Rome is the only peanut left
1873 food
1874 food
1875 food, Laser
1876 food
1877 food, Japanese: trade for Labor Union, give them 100g
1878 food
1879 food, Carthaginians: trade for Robotics, give them 100g
1880 food
1881 food
1882 food, Rocketry
1884 gold(d) to Malaca, 343g
1885 manufacturing plant
1887 SAM missile battery
1888 mechanized infantry
1889 mechanized infantry, Space Flight
1890 Apollo Program
1891 S#1, Japanese cancel alliance,
gems(d) to Tenochtitlan, 474g
1892 S#2, Carthaginians at war with the Japanese
1893 S#3
1894 S#4, give Space Flight to Carthaginians
1895 S#5
1896 S#6, Plastics
1897 C#1, sneak attack by Japanese, 2 engineers killed
Carthaginians to our aid
1898 C#2
1899 C#3
1900 C#4
1901 C#5
1902 C#6
1903 S#7
1904 S#8,
1905 S#9, Superconductor
1906 M#1
1907 M#2
1908 M#3
1909 S#10, Carthaginians end alliance
1910 S#11
1911 S#12, sneak attack by Carthaginians, bribe howitzer
1912 S#13
1913 S#14, Carthaginians have Fusion Power
1914 S#15, revolution
1915 Spy, government to Fundamentalism,
bribe Carthaginian howitzer, steal Fusion Power,
Launch 15-3-3-1-1-1
1916 mechanized infantry
1917 mechanized infantry
1918 mechanized infantry
1919 engineers
1920 engineers, bribe 2 Japanese howitzers
1921 bribe Carthaginian mechanized infantry
1922 mechanized infantry, engineer killed
1923 engineers
1924 mechanized infantry
1925 engineers
1926 mechanized infantry, engineer killed
1927 engineers, Carthaginians: peace, give Genetic Engineering
1928 engineers
1929 mechanized infantry, sell manufacturing plant
1930 Arrival on Alpha Centauri
[This message has been edited by solo (edited March 15, 2001).]

[Ribannah]

OCC Succession Game
Deity
MGE

*No human wonders except Apollo*

Guess you all thought my landing was in 1972

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AC: 1872

Monarchy: -2650
Republic: -825
Democracy: 220

Apollo: 1816

Trade routes: -1000, -825, -750

Size 12: -725
Size 19: 20
Size 33: 1808

Trade: -1850
Construction: -1400
Sanitation: -200
Refrigeration: 1200

Automobile: 1750
Computers: 1772
Space Flight: 1814
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-3700 Rome already founded, no techs - switching to working plains
-3650 Working Buffalo
-3600 N-Chariot(h)
-3450 Alphabet, Horsemen(h)
-3400 Mongols, Peace, traded for Ceremonial Burial (they also have Bronze Working)
-3300 Code of Laws(h), 50(h) - switching to Monarchy
-3150 Starting to mine the wheat
-3050 Settlers, Barb Leader!! (150)
-3000 Temple, S2, 50
-2950 Archers(h)
-2800 Chariot(h)
-2750 Wheat into Silk
-2700 French, Peace
-2650 Monarchy, MONARCHY, traded for Currency and Bronze Working(F), French ask for alliance!! - we accept
----- 2 techs->F, 3 techs->M - we refuse Warrior Code, Settlers join Rome -> S3, Pottery(h)
-2500 MarketPlace
-2450 Carthagians, traded for Horseback Riding, Peace, 5 techs->C, no Ally , no tribute
-2250 Barb Archers
-2200 Map Making(h)
-2050 Granary, N-Chariot(h), Barb Chariot
-2000 S4, Barb Leader (150), Barb Chariot
-1900 Japanese, traded for Mysticism, 5 techs->J, no Ally , 100<-J
-1850 Persians, traded for Iron Working, Masonry and Warrior Code, Peace, 2 techs->P, no Ally , 200<-P
----- Traded for Trade (F), 7 techs->M, Maps, 50 , 6 techs->C, 25
-1800 City Walls
-1750 S5
-1700 Hides
-1600 Silk, Aztecs, traded for Writing, Peace, 8 techs->Az, Maps, 100 , 7 techs->F, Maps
-1500 Library, S6
-1400 Hides, traded for Construction (C), 50
-1350 50(h)
-1300 Colosseum, 6 techs->J, Maps, 25
-1250 2 techs->M
-1200 Hides, Literacy
-1150 1 tech->C,M,F, 25 <-F , Persians: "Mathematics"
-1100 Wine
-1000 Hides to Carthage (d,100)
-950 Gold, S8
-875 Gems, sold City Walls, Mongols sneak-attack, they lose Archers
-850 1 tech->Az, 50 , Barb Legion
-825 Aqueduct, The Republic, REPUBLIC, Silk to Orleans (d,205), M Warriors
-800 S9, We Love , di Archers
-775 Diplomat, Philosophy -> Banking, S10, di Horsemen, traded for Mathematics(P), Peace(M), 6,4,4 techs->P,C,M, Maps, Barb Legion
-750 Bank, S11, Barb Leader (150), Hides to Kyoto (114)
-725 S12, Traded for Seafaring(F), 4 techs->F, Maps, 50
-700 Coal, We Love ends , 6 techs->J, Maps
-650 Barb Legion
-625 Diplomat
-600 Medicine, 1 tech->F, 100
-550 Diplomat
-525 Gold to Kyoto (138)
-475 Diplomat, 2 techs->C,M
-450 University, Wine to Paris (d,204), Gems to Kyoto (138)
-425 University, Embassy(F)
-400 The Wheel, br Barb Chariot, 3 techs->J, Maps, 2 techs->F,C,M
-375 Wine, Barb Chariot, br Barb Horsemen, Barb Leader (150), di Chariot
-350 Barb Chariot, Hides to Persepolis (d,320)
-325 Diplomat, Engineering, br Barb Horsemen, traded for Polytheism(A), 8 techs->A, Maps, 2 techs->C,M
-275 Coal to Kyoto (138)
-250 Gems
-225 Embassy(J), di Horsemen
-200 Sanitation
-175 Diplomat
-150 We Love
-125 Sewer System, S13, Monotheism(h) , di Chariot
-100 Cathedral, S14
-75 S15, Embassy(P)
-50 S16
-25 S17, Embassy(M)
1 Food, S18
20 Economics, S19, traded for Feudalism(J), 6,4 techs->F,J,M, Maps, 4 techs->C, 100<-F
40 We Love ends , traded for Astronomy(P), 9 techs->P, Maps
60 Embassy(C), Wine to Osaka (d,390)
100 Stock Exchange, Invention, di Horsemen
120 Gold
160 Wine, Aztecs: GREAT LIBRARY
180 2 techs->F, Maps, 2 techs->C
220 Democracy, DEMOCRACY, 1 tech->F, 100
240 Food
280 Dipomat, 1 tech->C
300 French: PYRAMIDS
340 Food, Chemistry
400 Food, Gems to Persepolis (100), Barb Legion
420 2 techs->P, Ally , Maps
440 Gunpowder, traded for Bridge Building(J), 4 techs->J, Maps, traded for Navigation(F),
----- 2 techs->F, 7 techs->M, Maps, Gold to Malaca (d,123)
480 Food
540 Explosives
560 Engineers -> S18, Wine to Osaka (d,195), Barb Legion, 5 techs->C, Maps, 2,1 techs->P,M
580 We Love
600 Engineers
620 We Love ends
660 Metallurgy, 1 tech->C,M, 2 techs->F, 100
680 Food
700 Barb Crusader
720 Desert into Plains
740 2 Barb Crusaders
760 Gold
780 Br Barb Archers, barb Archers, barb Elephant, 2 techs->P
800 Wine, Theology, traded for Physics(P), 1 tech->P, 200 , 2 techs->Az,C,M Barb Archers
820 Desert into Plains, di Archers
840 Japanese declare war, J Explorers, Barb Elephant, 1 tech->F, 100
860 Food
880 Aztecs: LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP
940 Food, Magnetism, Barb Elephant, 1 tech->F, 100
980 1 tech->P, 150
1000 Diplomat
1020 Hills into plains
1040 Gold to Malaca (d,189)
1060 Diplomat, traded for Steam Engine(F), French end alliance , br Barb->N Knights, Barb Leader (150)
----- traded for Chivalry(M), 3 techs->C, Maps
1100 Electricity, We Love , Gold to Malaca (d,195)
1120 Engineers, Wine to Kyoto (102)
1140 We Love ends
1160 Gold
1180 Barb Elephant, br Aztec->N Engineers (244), Barb Knights
1200 Refrigeration, We Love
1220 Supermarket, S19, Barb Elephant, hills into plains
1240 We Love ends , Barb Elephant, traded for Conscription(A), 1 tech->Az, 3 techs->C,M
----- Peace(J), 9 techs->J, Maps, 1 tech->P, 75
1260 1 tech->P, 50 , br French->N Engineers (240)
1280 1 tech->P, 75
1300 Food, Embassy(A), 4 techs->F, Maps
1320 Sold Granary, 1 tech->P, 150
1340 Railroad, br Barb->N Knights, 1 tech->P, 150 , br French->N Engineers (224), Barb Knights
1360 We Love
1380 Cloth, S20, hills into plains, 1 tech->C,M
1400 S21
1420 S22
1440 S23
1460 Gems, S24
1480 S25
1500 Industrialization, S26
1510 Food, French: COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY
1520 S27
1530 S28, Barb Crusaders, 1 tech->C,M
1540 Food, S29, Persians: COLOSSUS
1550 We Love ends , 1 tech->P, 25
1570 Food, The Corporation, Barb Leader (150), 1 tech->P, 50 , traded for Leadership(F)
1580 Gold to Persepolis (d,318), 4 techs->J, Maps, 2 techs->M
1590 Factory
1610 Food, Electronics, 1 tech->P, 100 , 1 tech->M, 4 techs->A, Maps
1650 550<-P for War(A)
1660 Hydroplant, Steel, traded for Tactics(J), 1 tech->J, 1 tech->P, traded for Refining(P)
1670 Gems to Edo (d,254), mountain into hills
1680 Dye, Cloth to Persepolis (106)
1700 Coal
1710 A Cannon, A Dragoons, Dye to Kyoto (d,218), br French->N Engineers (292), br French->N Engineers (276)
1720 Oil, Carthagians: SUN TZU'S WAR ACADEMY
1730 Barb Musketeers
1740 Food
1750 Automobile, 8,5 techs->F,M, Maps
1752 Superhighways, 5 techs->Az, Cease Fire, Maps, Coal to Persepolis (d,772)
1754 Mass Production, We Love , hills into plains, plains/r into grassland(s)/r
1756 Food, S30
1758 We Love ends , Oil to Persepolis (318), 1 tech->M,Az,F, 4 techs->J, Maps, Ally, 50 , 3 techs->P
1760 Machine Tools, mountain into hills, 1 tech->Machine Tools(P), 250->P for Theory of Gravity, 1 tech->M
----- Persians: DARWIN'S VOYAGE, they get Atomic Theory and Miniaturization
1764 Gold, steal Atomic Theory(P) -> "Minor incident" , grassland/r into hills/r
1768 Nuclear Fission, di Engineers, traded for Mobile Warfare(M), 3 techs->M
----- traded for Miniaturization(P), 1 tech->P, 14 techs->C (finally not hostile anymore!), Maps
1770 Wine, we love , 4 techs->A, Gold to Persepolis (d,880), hills/r mined
1772 Computers, S31, Gems to Edo (d,756), 1 tech->P, 75 , 7,5 techs->J,F, Maps, Wine to Edo (252)
----- Aztecs: Statue of Liberty, Carthagians demand 1000 -> War, C Knights
1774 Research Lab, Robotics, We Love ends , C Knights
1776 Plains into Grassland(s)
1778 Manufacturing Plant
1780 Food, We Love , hills into plains
1782 Food, Flight, S32, traded for Fundamentalism(M), Japanese: MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL
1784 Food, We Love ends , plains into grassland(s), completed railroad to Osaka
1786 Food, bribed Carthagian->N Armor (780) , Carthagians: MAGELLAN'S EXPEDITION
1788 Food
1790 Radio, grassland/r into hills/r
1792 Food
1794 Food, plains/r into grassland/r, hills/r mined, grassland/r into hills/r, br Carthagian Armor (812)
----- Peace(C), 3,8 techs->C,F, Maps, 3 techs->A,M, 1 tech->J,P 100,300
1796 Food
1798 Food, Advanced Flight, hills/r mined -> 80 shields
1800 City Walls, di 2 Engineers, Japanese: J.S. BACH'S CATHEDRAL
1802 Airport
1804 Carthagians: ADAM SMITH'S TRADING CO.
1806 Rocketry, We Love , traded for Communism(P), 1 tech->P, Aztecs: SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE
1808 S33, sold Sewer System, 2 barb Riflemen
1810 We Love ends , barb Leader (150), sold Aqueduct
1814 Space Flight
1816 APOLLO PROGRAM, Japanese: HOOVER DAM
1818 S#01
1820 S#02
1822 S#03, traded for Nuclear Power(J), 1 tech->J, French: SETI PROGRAM
1824 S#04, Plastics, Japanese: WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE
1826 S#05, traded Spaceflight for Genetic Engineering(F)
1828 S#06
1830 S#07
1832 S#08, 8,7,7,5 techs->M,A,C,F, Maps, 5 techs->P, Maps, 700 , br French->N Armor (528)
1834 S#09, The Laser
1836 S#10
1838 S#11
1840 S#12
1842 S#13, Superconductor, traded for Amphibious Warfare(J), 1 tech->J, 100
1844 S#14, traded for Espionage(P), 1 tech->P, persians end alliance , 4 techs->M, Maps
1846 S#15, 1 tech->J, 100 , Carthagians: UNITED NATIONS
1848 C#01, 1 tech->J, 150 , 4 techs->C, Maps, 4 techs->F
1850 C#02, 1 tech->J, 100
1851 C#03, Fusion Power, 4 techs->A, Peace(A)
1852 C#04, traded for Recycling(F), traded for Combined Arms(C), 1 tech->C
----- traded for Guerilla Warfare(J), 1 tech->J, 100
1853 C#05
1854 C#06, br Barb->N Partisans, barb Partisans
1855 M#01, barb Cavalry
1856 M#02, br Carthagian Spy, barb Partisans, barb Cavalry, Carthagians: CURE FOR CANCER
1857 M#03, Environmentalism, LAUNCH 15-3-3-1-1-1, br Barb->N Partisans, di N-Horsemen, di N-Knights
----- 5,5,3 techs->M,J,A, Maps, 3,2 techs->F,C, 1 tech->J, 100 , Aztecs: ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE
1858 SDI Defence, di N-Knights, French: C#01
1859 SAM Missile Battery, barb Partisans, di 2 N-Chariots, Japanese: C#01-02, French: C#02
1860 Solar Plant, sold Hydroplant, Japanese: C#03
1861 Japanese: C#04, Carthagians: C#01-02
1862 Future Tech 1, Carthagians: C#03-04
1863 Aztecs: C#01, Mongols: C#01
1864 Aztecs: C#02
1865 Japanese: M#01-02, C#05-06
1866 Armor, French: C#03-04, Carthagians: M#01, barb Cavalry
1867 Howitzer, Future Tech 2, let Carthagians declare war, we kill 3 Howitzers, 2 Armor, 1 Marines , Japanese: C#07-08
1868 Fighter, C Marines, C Helicopter, Mongols: C#02
1869 Fighter, Carthagians: C#05
1870 Fighter, Mongols destroyed by Japanese, Carthagians: C#06
1871 Fighter, Japanese: M#03, C#09-10, Carthagians: M#02, C#07-08
1872 ALPHA CENTAURI

Score: 191 (24%) (Balthazar the Glutton

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If you have no feet, don't walk on fire

[solo]

Ribannah - Your note about commodities was too obvious a clue. As usual, nice game and a great result!

[Ecthy]

I just downloaded the file... going to look at it tomorrow.

[Winston]

Hmm, I haven't been able to muster the energy to reconstruct a game log from the saves I have, like I promised to do earlier. Sorry about that.

Starting a new game seemed infinitely more appealing than running through the old one just for making a log. But next time I play a comparison game, I'll remember to log the progress of the game 'in real time'.

I'm glad everyone seemed to like the game, and hat's off to the ones who once again were able to push the boundary back quite a bit in terms of landing dates.

Incidentally, I now find it very fun and challenging to play various premade, historical maps with this special OCC variety: No wonders, found Rome exactly at the starting square - and in 4,000 b.c., and don't declare war on the AI. This makes for a different game entirely than the traditional OCC, as you have a lot more time (and eventually gold)on your hands due to the slowed down research rate. So the obvious thing to do is bribe as many AI units as you possibly can and set up parameters of units in between AI civs and around their cities. And make the most of the 2 continent trading strategy.

I'm currently playing this way on the standard world map (small) and it's the most fun I've had in months!

[EOL]

Not thinking too much throughout most of this . Only got Monarchy after about 20 techs. Mongols got killed once, the Indians twice and had some troubles at the end after the Japanese got reincarnated as the Babylonians next to me . Nice for easy trade though . Had to use a lot of resources to defend myself from the Babylonians at the end. They declared war just after I had started to build my spaceship. After they killed all my N-Engineers I had big pollution problems . Amazing how differently games can turn out from the same start.

A shot of the finish.
Deity 2.42

Arrival-1962ad

Monarchy -125
Republic 460
Democracy 1764

Apollo 1914

Route 1 -725
Route 2 -700
Route 3 -500


Trade -925 63
Construction -875 65
Sanitation 1160 158
Refrigeration 1846 248
Automobile 1869 269
Computers 1892 292
Space Flight 1913 313
Landing 1962 362

Size 12 540
Size 21 1897 (size 19 in 1380)

Trade Routes 4631g
Tribute 4850g
Barb Leaders 300g
Huts 50g

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-3700 Game start
-3450 Alphabet. Warrior.
-3250 Warrior. Barbs (h). Warrior kld.
-3100 Warrior.
-3000 Ceremonial Burial. Peace with Mongols. Exchange for Horseback Riding.
-2950 Japanese destroyed by barbs. Archers (h)
-2800 Bronze Working (h). Horseman.
-2750 Currency (h).
-2500 Map Making (h). Techs -> M.
-2250 N-Chariot (h).
-2150 N-Legion (h). Disband Archers.
-2000 Temple. Exchange for Code of Laws and Writing with Babylonians, give tech, maps, alliance.
-1950 Techs -> M.
-1850 N-Legion kld by Barbs.
-1650 Polytheism (h)
-1500 N-Elephant (h).
-1450 Barb Leader 150g.
-1400 Library.
-1350 Exchange for Iron Working, Masonry and Warrior Code with persians, peace. Techs -> B, 50g.
-1300 Marketplace.
-1150 All tech -> M, maps.
-1050 Diplomat. Embassy with B. Exchange with Aztecs for Mysticism and Pottery, peace, maps.
-1000 Techs -> Carthaginians, maps, alliance, 50g.
-925 Trade (h)
-900 Dye Caravan. 50g (h). 50g A.
-875 Trade for Construction with B, 25g.
-850 Hides Caravan.
-725 Gems Caravan. Trade for Mathematics with P, maps. Dye -> Babylon 44g.
-700 Literacy. Hides -> Babylon 44g.
-675 Disband Warrior.
-650 Disband Horseman.
-600 50g C.
-575 Colloseum.
-500 Gems -> Babylon 24g.
-425 Wine Caravan.
-400 Techs -> B, 25g. Techs -> C, 50g.
-300 Tech -> B, 50g. Techs -> C. Techs -> A, maps.
-225 Wine -> Babylon 64g.
-150 Philosophy -> Monarchy. Revolution. Trade for Seafaring with B. Techs -> French, maps, alliance, 100g.
-125 Monarchy established. Aquaduct.
-75 Dye Caravan. Techs -> F, A, P maps alliance 50g, C 50g, M - maps.
1 Dye -> Ur, 28g.
20 M destroyed by P.
60 Diplomat.
160 Coal Caravan.
220 Diplomat. Disbnd Warrior.
300 Coal -> Babylon 36g.
340 Gold Caravan.
360 C maps, 50g, embassy. Indians destroyed by Babylonians.
380 Techs -> Indians, maps, alliance. Diplomat.
440 Republic. Revolution. Embassy with I.
460 Republic established.
480 Start WLTCD size 9. Gold -> Babylon 50g. Trade for Astronomy with B.
500 Coal Caravan.
540 End WLTCD size 12.
560 Trade with P for The Wheel, give tech, 75g. Trade with B for Navigation, 25g.
Techs -> C. Techs -> I, maps.
600 Coal -> Babylon 33g.
640 Wine Caravan.
680 Diplomat.
720 P 150g. Trade for Bridge building with A, give tech. Techs -> F, 50g.
760 Wine -> Babylon 82g.
780 University.
800 Trade for Monotheism with B, Coal Caravan.
860 University built.
900 Cathedral.
920 Coal -> Babylon 40g.
940 Wine Caravan.
960 B maps. Tech -> C. Tech -> P 25g. Tech -> F.
980 Trade for Engineering with P, give tech, 25g. Tech -> C.
1020 Medicine. Tech -> B. Wine -> Babylon 110g.
1060 Coal Caravan.
1140 Coal -> Babylon 48g.
1160 Sanitation. Trade for Physics with B. Techs -> I.
1180 Wine Caravan. Tech -> P, 100g.
1220 25g B.
1240 Sewer System. WLTCD starts size 12. Wine -> Babylon 122g.
1280 Gold Caravan. 50g B.
1320 Coal Caravan. Gold -> Babylon 165g.
1360 Banking. Wine Caravan.
1380 Coal -> Babylon 57g. WLTCD ends size 19. Techs -> I, 50g. Tech -> P, 50g. Tech -> C.
1400 Bank.
1420 Wine -> Babylon 142g.
1440 Dye Caravan.
1480 Coal Caravan.
1500 Chemistry. Trade for Invention with B. Dye -> Babylon 57g. Tech -> C. Trade for Feudalism with Persians, give tech, 50g.
1510 Wine Caravan.
1520 Coal -> Babylon 57g.
1530 Dye Caravan.
1540 Wine -> Babylon 227g.
1560 Economics. Trade for Steam Engine with B, 50g. Dye -> Babylon 96g. Techs -> I.
1590 Stock Exchange.
1610 Dye Caravan.
1620 N-Settler and N-Elephant kld by barbs.
1630 Democracy. Gold Caravan.
1640 Barb Leader 150g. Gold -> Nineveh 93g.
1650 Diplomat.
1660 Dye -> Babylon 182g.
1690 Magnetism.
1710 Trade for Railroad with B, 50g.
1720 Bribe N-Settlers 452g. Trade for Gunpowder with C, give tech.
1754 Dye Caravan.
1756 Metallurgy.
1758 Trade for Industrialisation with B.
1760 Gold -> Nineveh 70g.
1762 Remember to revolt.
1764 Democracy. Dye -> Babylon 122g.
1766 Tech -> P, 25g. B 50g.
1772 Explosives.
1774 Trade for Conscription with B, 50g. Techs -> I, maps, 100g. Techs -> C, alliance dissolved. Techs -> A, maps.
1776 Trade for Chivalry with P, 50g.
1786 Dye Caravan.
1788 Electricity.
1790 Wine Caravan. Tech -> C.
1794 Oil Caravan. Dye -> Babylon 124g.
1798 Diplomat. Wine -> Babylon 62g. Tech -> A, maps.
1802 Trade for Theory of Gravity with B, gift Communism. Oil -> Babylon 62g.
1804 Leadership.
1806 Bribe A Engineers 344g.
1810 Trade for The Corporation with A, give tech, maps.
1812 Tech -> P, 50g. Tech -> I, 50g. Techs -> F, alliance dissolved.
1814 Bribed A Engineers 356g.
1822 Factory.
1826 Tactics. Wine Freight.
1830 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ur 178g. Wine -> Babylon 93g. A declare war.
1836 City Walls. Bribe A Engineer 344g.
1838 Embassy A, tech peace.
1844 Persians have built an airbase before flight has even been discovered :confused!
1846 Refrigeration. Tech -> A, trade for Electronics, maps, alliance.
1850 Trade with A for Refining.
1851 Hydro Plant.
1853 Supermarket.
1854 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 186g. Tech -> P, 100g.
1855 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ur 182g.
1858 Steel.
1862 Trade for Combustion with B, maps.
1866 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 188g.
1867 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 188g.
1868 Oil Freight. Oil -> Babylon 93g.
1869 Automobile.
1871 Superhighways.
1881 Machine Tools. Trade for Mass Production with B. Techs -> I, C, P 100g, A 200g, F alliance 100g.
1882 Wine Freight. 200g A.
1883 Oil Freight. Wine -> Babylon 370g. Oil -> Ashur 283g.
1884 200g A, 100g P.
1885 Miniaturisation.
1892 Flight. Trade with B for Computers.
1893 Research Lab. Trade for Atomic Theory with P, 100g.
1894 Already have 80 shields without Manufacturing plant.
1897 Size 21.
1898 Oil Freight. Radio. Oil -> Ashur 291g.
1899 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ashur 291g.
1900 Wine Frieght. Wine -> Ashur 212g.
1901 Airport.
1902 Advanced Flight.
1907 Rocketry. Trade for Mobile Warfare with P, 100g.
1908 Barracks.
1910 SAM Missile Battery.
1911 B gift Theology.
1912 B gift Guerilla Warfare.
1913 Buy Space Flight for 750g from B.
1914 Apollo Program.
1915 Struct #1. Nuclear Fission. Space Flight -> P, 100g. Techs -> A, 200g.
1916 Struct #2. Babylonians cancel alliance.
1917 Struct #3.
1918 Struct #4. Tech -> P, 100g. Techs -> C. Bribe N-Alpine 460g from B.
1919 Struct #5. Techs -> C.
1920 Struct #6. B declare war.
1921 Armour. I destroyed by C. Steal Plastics from B. Trade with A for Combined Arms,
Tech -> A, 200g. P give 850g for war with C.
1922 Fighter.
1923 Diplomat. Steal Superconductor from B.
1924 Struct #7.
1925 Struct #8. Nuclear Power. 2 N-Engineers kld :mad. Trade with P for Robotics give Tech, 100g.
1926 Struct #9. Techs -> A.
1927 Howitzer. N-Engineer kld :mad.
1928-33 Struct #10-15.
1929 N-Horseman kld.
1934 Armour.
1935 Howitzer. N-Alpine kld.
1936 Spy. B peace. Tech -> P, 100g. Trade for Fusion Power with A, dissolve alliance.
1937 Tech -> P, 100g.
1937-42 Component #1-6.
1942 Trade for Fundamentalism with P, alliance dissolved.
1943 Module #1.
1945 Module #2. Disband N-Chariot and Howitzer.
1947 Module #3. Launch (estimated arrival 1962). Pollution and a stolen square => starved down to pop 18 from 25.
1949 P declares war.
1951 Manufacturing Plant. Armour kld by P.
1952 Howitzer.
1953 Labour Union. B sneak attack. N-Settler kld by B :mad.
1954-62 Mech Infs/Fighter/Howitzers/ Armours. Spy Captured.
1958 B launch eta 1963 .
1962 Arrive at AC.

Civ Rating 13%

[Paul]

3500 BC Mongols: peace
3450 BC Alphabet
Warrior
3250 BC Warrior
3100 BC Warrior
3000 BC Code of Laws
Mongols: trade Ceremonial Burial
2950 BC French: peace; trade Currency
2700 BC Hut: 25 gold
2300 BC Hut: 50 gold
2250 BC Marketplace
2050 BC Writing
Hut: Horseback Riding
1850 BC Carthaginians: peace; trade Bronze Working
1800 BC Mongols: war
1750 BC Library
French: war
Mongols: peace
1550 BC Hut: Archer
1350 BC Temple
1250 BC Literacy
1150 BC Hut: Archer
1000 BC Carthaginians: alliance; gift 200 gold
French: trade Masonry; they give 100 gold for peace
950 BC Hut: Legion
825 BC Hut: Map Making
Carthaginians: share maps
800 BC Japanese: alliance; share maps; gift 200 gold
675 BC Republic
Japanese: trade Warrior Code
French: alliance; share maps
Mongols: trade Iron Working
625 BC Gov: Republic
600 BC Persians: peace; trade Wheel; share maps
475 BC French: trade Construction; gift 25 gold
japanese: gift 25 gold
450 BC Colosseum
Start WLTCD, size 4
425 BC Carthaginians: gift 150 gold
400 BC Carthaginians: gift Mysticism
350 BC Aztecs: peace; share maps
325 BC Aqueduct
250 BC End WLTCD, size 12
200 BC Trade
175 BC Build Dye Caravan
100 BC Build Gems Caravan
75 BC Build Gold Caravan
40 AD Banking
140 AD Bank
160 AD French: trade Bridge Building, Monarchy; cancel alliance
Japanese: trade Polytheism; cancel alliance
Aztecs: trade Pottery, Seafaring
Persians: trade Mathematics
Carthaginians: trade Engineering; gift 100 gold
440 AD Build Coal Caravan
460 AD Philosophy, Medicine
Dye to Tenochtitlan (demanded): 392 gold
Gems to Susa (demanded): 392 gold
480 AD Sanitation
Start WLTCD, size 12
500 AD Sewer System
520 AD Gold to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 224 gold
End WLTCD, size 13
620 AD Monotheism
640 AD Cathedral
Start WLTCD, size 13
Aztecs: trade Astronomy
Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
760 AD End WLTCD, size 19
780 AD Build Wine Caravan
820 AD University
840 AD University
1020 AD French: trade Feudalism
Aztecs: trade Navigation
1040 AD Coal to Tenochtitlan (demanded): 312 gold
1060 AD Invention
1180 AD Theology
Start WLTCD, size 19
Wine to Paris (not demanded): 64 gold
1220 AD End WLTCD, size 20
1300 AD Democracy
1320 AD Aztecs: trade Physics
1340 AD Gov: Democracy
1400 AD Build Wine Caravan
1440 AD Gunpowder
1480 AD Build Wool Caravan
1530 AD Magnetism
Aztecs: trade Economics
Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
1540 AD Stock Exchange
1600 AD Explosives
1610 AD Engineer
1620 AD Engineer
1630 AD Carthaginians: gift 200 gold
1660 AD Metallurgy
Aztecs: trade Steam Engine
1730 AD Electricity
1750 AD Aztecs: trade Railroad
Carthaginians: trade Conscription; gift 200 gold
1754 AD Wine to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 89 gold
1756 AD Build Dye Caravan
1760 AD Refrigeration
1762 AD Supermarket
1764 AD Wool to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 89 gold
1770 AD Carthaginians: gift 150 gold
1774 AD Chivalry
Start WLTPD, size 18
1790 AD Industrialization
Persians: alliance; gift 200 gold
Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
1798 AD End WLTPD, size 28
1804 AD Corporation
1816 AD Refining
Dye to Pasargadae (demanded): 168 gold
Japanese: trade Leadership
Persians: gift 100 gold
Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
1818 AD Build Wine Freight
1822 AD Wine to Rheims (demanded): 105 gold
1824 AD Build Oil Freight
1826 AD Combustion
Persians: trade Steel; gift 200 gold
Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
Aztecs: trade Electronics
1838 AD Automobile
1840 AD Superhighways
1848 AD Mass Production
French: trade Tactics; alliance; gift 200 gold
Persians: gift 75 gold
Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
Sell Sewer System
1851 AD Mass Transit
Sell Aqueduct
Oil to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 252 gold
1853 AD Build Coal Freight
Machine Tools
Aztecs: trade Theory of Gravity
1857 AD Power Plant
1858 AD Miniaturization
Coal to Carthage (demanded): 452 gold
1859 AD Build Dye Caravan
1860 AD Build Cloth Caravan
Aztecs: trade Mobile Warfare
French: gift 75 gold
Persians: gift 200 gold
Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
1862 AD Computers
1863 AD Research Lab
1864 AD Cloth to Carthage (not demanded): 181 gold
1865 AD Build Gold Caravan
1866 AD Build Oil Freight
Robotics
French: trade Atomic Theory; gift 200 gold
Persians: gift 150 gold
Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
1867 AD French: gift 150 gold
Persians: gift 50 gold
Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
1868 AD French: gift 100 gold
Persians: gift 50 gold
Carthaginians: gift 150 gold
1870 AD Flight
Dye to Tlaxcala (demanded): 302 gold
1872 AD Persians: gift 100 gold
Carthaginians: gift 150 gold
1873 AD Manufacturing Plant
1874 AD Radio
1876 AD Oil to Tlaxcala (demanded): 528 gold
1877 AD Advanced Flight
Aztecs: trade Communism
1878 AD Gold to Persepolis (demanded): 468 gold
1881 AD Rocketry
1886 AD Space Flight
1887 AD Apollo Program
1891 AD Plastics
1892 AD French: gift 150 gold
Persians: gift 50 gold
Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
1896 AD Nuclear Fission
1900 AD French: gift 150 gold
1901 AD Nuclear Power
Persians: gift 50 gold
Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
1907 AD Laser
1909 AD Build Gold Freight
1910 AD Build Oil Freight
1912 AD Aztecs: trade Genetic Engineering
1914 AD Superconductor
1915 AD Gold to Kagoshima (demanded): 318 gold
1916 AD Oil to Carthage (not demanded): 104 gold
1918 AD Fusion Power
Launch
1933 AD Alpha Centauri

[Paul]

It took some time , but I finally made the comparison table for this game.