a lesson on deity - early intercontinental trade

[lord of the mark]

playing diety, 7 civs (no restart) restless, small real world map.
Americans

lucky start - i'm alone in the americas against 6 old world civs - (a definite advantage of small real world map)
finding myself alone, i researched mapmaking early, which i never do with an old world start on a real world map. ive mainly been using caravans for WOW's (HG, and halfway to Colossus in 100BC) but i sent one to europe (madrid) via trireme. it wasnt even in demand and it got 56 beakers, enough for a tech at this point.

I have 7 cities now, I'll go for 3 more, head for mike's (given this position its more important than Leos, i think) getting phil first on the way. then go to republic, celebrate, more WOWs and intercontental trade


LOTM

[markusf]

i'd say you need some practice. In one of my diplogames i am in right now at 1 ad i have 8 wonders, 24 cities and 2 more about to be completed. I didn't share any tech, nor trade with anyone else. Diety 1x 1x raging hordes. In my other one using the same settings(except king this time), with no huts i only have 5 wonders and 20+ cities at 200 bc.

[DrFell]

Fitting 24 cities in the Americas on a small world map is quite a challenge... why don't you provide us with some tips?

[War4ever]

different map

[lord of the mark]

well i definitely need practice. I lost to the Mongols, finally giving up
in late 1800's. I think i went to republic too early, happiness ok (with mikes) but not enough food and shield production.

I've had it. Im trying ICS.

LOTM

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark on 04-03-2001 11:48 PM well i definitely need practice. LOTM

... and perhaps markusf needs modesty.
Guess which of you gets something first?

[Scouse Gits]

quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark on 04-03-2001 11:48 PM I've had it. Im trying ICS.

Welcome to the real world In my mind there is little doubt that playing any type of perfectionist (other than OCC) at deity is much harder than ICS...


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[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark on 04-03-2001 02:04 PM playing diety, 7 civs (no restart) restless, small real world map. Americans I have 7 cities now, I'll go for 3 more, head for mike's (given this position its more important than Leos, i think) getting phil first on the way. then go to republic, celebrate, more WOWs and intercontental trade LOTM

Of course you are free to follow SG's advice and play ICS.
If I were you, I would first have another try at intercontinental trade.
If you have a savegame of yours with the 7 cities you talk about, you can use it, but please don't build 3 more cities at once if you want to switch to Republic and grow through WLTCD (8 cities is the max you can have without red faces and you grow your civ much more easily with 8 cities than you do with 10).
Then, being alone in America you should never be afraid of the Mongols (they are not SUCH sailors):
1) Trade like mad, get rich, switch to commie, build vet spies and buy the Mongols at low price if you don't feel like fighting them.
2) If you feel like fighting, you also trade like mad for a start but you discover Physics, then Steam Engine. Then you switch back to Monarchy and you build quickly (stepwise rushbuilding is much cheaper than rushbuying) as many ironclads as you can afford and the Mongols should not have ONE city left by the seaside after a few turns. Then you have won (they won't be able to harm you any more) and you may go to bed (it's nice to have a sleep once in a while, even being a civ addict).
The next day (or the next week) you finish your game and tell us.

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[lord of the mark]

quote: Originally posted by La Fayette on 04-04-2001 08:34 AM Originally posted by lord of the mark on 04-03-2001 02:04 PM playing diety, 7 civs (no restart) restless, small real world map. Americans I have 7 cities now, I'll go for 3 more, head for mike's (given this position its more important than Leos, i think) getting phil first on the way. then go to republic, celebrate, more WOWs and intercontental trade LOTM

Of course you are free to follow SG's advice and play ICS.
If I were you, I would first have another try at intercontinental trade.
If you have a savegame of yours with the 7 cities you talk about, you can use it, but please don't build 3 more cities at once if you want to switch to Republic and grow through WLTCD (8 cities is the max you can have without red faces and you grow your civ much more easily with 8 cities than you do with 10).
Then, being alone in America you should never be afraid of the Mongols (they are not SUCH sailors):
1) Trade like mad, get rich, switch to commie, build vet spies and buy the Mongols at low price if you don't feel like fighting them.
2) If you feel like fighting, you also trade like mad for a start but you discover Physics, then Steam Engine. Then you switch back to Monarchy and you build quickly (stepwise rushbuilding is much cheaper than rushbuying) as many ironclads as you can afford and the Mongols should not have ONE city left by the seaside after a few turns. Then you have won (they won't be able to harm you any more) and you may go to bed (it's nice to have a sleep once in a while, even being a civ addict).
The next day (or the next week) you finish your game and tell us.