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  • What unit is your "offensive call"

    For me, my major offense comes with knights since chariots are simply not powerful enough and legion's move of 1 does not help. I usually take over most of the world with cavalry with ironclads or frigates. What about you?

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  • #2
    my main offensive unit is the dragoon. its not as good as the calvary but by the time i get it im ready to kick butt, and i usually have leo's so they upgrade to calvary when i get the proper advance
    Enjoy the war while you can, the peace will be terrible

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    • #3
      For minor aggression like trimming back a neighboring AI civ that is getting too big for its britches, the key for me is the diplomat. The ability to co-opt the forces (and cities) of your enemy is crucial, no matter what time period!

      Of course, it is wise to back up the diplomat with combat units, but anything greater than warriors works as I usually bribe the big guns away from the enemy. I mean, why take the time to march a legion or roll a catapult all the way to the enemy, when they're already there, and soon to be in my service?

      Now, when it is time for large-scale "cleanse the Earth" style total warfare, I tend to wait for tanks. Can you say blitzkrieg???

      Of course, spies are a big part of my strategy in modern warfare as well. Aside from convincing enemy units of the superior benefits of citizenship in my civilization, my agents are crucial in sabotaging the fortifications of my enemies immediately before attack. And I love to smuggle in the occasional nuke...

      YMMV,

      -Bob
      Semper ubi sub ubi!

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      • #4
        I'm hardly expanding on enemy territory at all... so if I'm actually going to attack, I'm using Tank and Artillery units. War before Industrial Age is for morons

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        • #5
          vet Crusaders preferably backed by Ironclads do it for me - I guess I'm a moron

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          • #6
            That was a joke!

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            • #7
              I’ve got to agree with Juggler_Bob about diplomats. So cheap and so versatile. Inciting revolts in unhappy cities is the easiest way to conquer AI territory early in the game. Bribing strong AI and barbarian attackers is the easiest way to defend. What more could you ask for? The ability to steal techs and to sabotage, I suppose.

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              • #8
                Even when I'm in a "World Domination" game where I undertake to mop up six
                AI civs, I seldom attack before the advent of Armour, and modern warships
                i.e. after elecrity. I have so little faith in the effectiveness of anything earlier, after witnessing the AI's lack of success 'gainst 2 fortified Phalanxes/musketeers/fanatics, progressively, defending my cities.

                I then bombard coastal cities with Aggies stacked to the skies, after slipping in a spy, or two, to dismantle any coastal fortresses, sending in the only troops able to enter a city from the sea - the marine, surprisingly despised by some posters - to mop up.

                I approach inland cities with, in my retinue, a settler/engineer to build a fort neath the AI walls, while my tanks "rest" after their rumble across country, more spies, this time to knock down city walls (I used to have 'em poison the populace before I noticed that, in the end, there was no city left to take!)After that, it's tanks and howitzers, well stacked, and attacking, in turn, I hate to lose even one unit, so I'm careful not to let any overdo, blackening their shield. For the immediate garrison, I leave most of the attacking force in place, those AI partisans can launch a surprisingly strong counter -attack, sometimes. Later, I man the ramparts with cheap fanatics, too, I usaally wait til Fundy (SoL) before I go on the warpath.Altho I do have this thing about another unit derided within Apolyton, flying paras over to permanently garrison, behind my spearheads -highly handy to float them over 10 squares, free of forts, AI, rough terrain, and the like

                At a pinch, I'll use mech infantry for attack, and defence...I've found them excellent for both, and cheaper, too.

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                • #9
                  Crusaders are my primary offensive unit in the early game. I generally research Mono way before Chivalry so the timeframe during which Knights come into play is quite limited.

                  My usual end game involves dozens of vet Cavalry and diplomats/spies, as those are usually enough to subdue cities that are defended by musketeers.

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                  • #10
                    I'm with Scouse Gits and Everyman. If I'm playing a take-over-the-world game, the advent of crusaders is my "call to arms".


                    George Garrett,

                    You're right, the AI does very poorly against a couple of good defenders. But that's due to it's strategy (or lack thereof). If you send in a bunch of attackers you can have great success even against four or more defenders. The trick is have many, many attackers (think barbarian pirate landing). If you come from a perfectionist "I'll wait until I have modern units so as not to have many casualties" mindset like I did - then prepare yourself for big losses with this strategy. With 2 or 3 to 1 odds in your favor, crusaders can even take out fortified musketeers (once the city walls are down).

                    Of course city bribing as Juggler_Bob suggests is a very clean and cheap alternative. And ironclads ignore city walls...

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                    • #11
                      I have two different periods of offensives generally. The first begins when I discover Monotheism and build Crusaders. I attempt to overrun as many of the AI civs as possible with my Caravel/Frigate-Crusader army.

                      Once gunpowder and conscription are achieved by the AI civs though, their Musketeers and Rifleman can stop many units during their respective time periods, especially if augmented by veteran status and city walls. So I become a pseudo-expansionist (settler expansion) and perfectionist to develop high-production capacity. My next call to arms arrives with the advent of Mobile Warfare. I begin turning out Armor units, supplemented by Battleships and Fighters for that last push to conquer what remains of the AI civs

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                      • #12
                        Everyone:

                        I usually play a perfectionist game, so my "call to arms" usually doesn't arrive until well into the modern age. I do, however, maintain three veteran defenders and two veteran offensive units in all of my cities, no matter the time, just in case the AI decides to get nasty early on. My capital city is usually even more fortified — four veteran defenders along with two to four offensive divisions.

                        When I do go to war, though, it's on a massive scale. It usually involves aramadas of warships, hundreds of armor and howitzer divisions along with strike groups of aircraft and choppers. I've even created a special division — Elite Corps — to add a bit more spice to the game. Also gave artillery the ability to blast over city walls.

                        In fact, here's a log of my latest game (I must warn you, though, that my emotions got a little rough at the end, particularly when the SIOUX began using thermonuclear weapons:

                        4000 BC — AZTEC nation founded with establishment of TENOCHTITLAN.
                        1950 BC — Settlers establish TEOTIHUACAN.
                        1250 BC — Monarchy ascends to power among AZTECS.
                        1000 BC — AZTECS, AMERICA make contact; sign peace treaty.
                        ...AZTECS, AMERICA exchange technology.
                        0550 BC — AZTECS, SIOUX make contact; sign peace treaty.
                        0500 BC — AZTECS build Colossus in TENOCHTITLAN.
                        0125 BC — Golden Age of Philosophy begins in AZTEC city of TEOTIHUACAN.
                        0140 AD — AMERICA builds Hanging Gardens in BOSTON.
                        0160 AD — Settlers establish TLATELOLCO.
                        0220 AD — AZTECS, AMERICA exchange maps and technology.
                        0300 AD — Settlers establish TEXCOCO.
                        0600 AD — AMAZONS build Lighthouse in THEMISCYRA.
                        0600 AD — AZTECS builds Marco Polo's Embassy in TENOCHTITLAN.
                        0660 AD — ZULUS build Pyramids in ISANDHLWANA.
                        ...VIKINGS, AMAZONS sign peace treaty.
                        0680 AD — AZTECS, AMERICA exchange technology.
                        0700 AD — VIKINGS build Copernicus Observatory in TRONDHEIM.
                        0860 AD — ZULUS build Great Wall in ZIMBABWE.
                        0880 AD — AZTECS, CELTS make contact; exchange technology.
                        0940 AD — SIOUX build Oracle in LITTLE BIGHORN.
                        0960 AD — AZTECS, VIKINGS make contact; sign peace treaty.
                        ...AZTECS, VIKINGS exchange technology.
                        ...CELTS declare war on AZTECS; former refused to pay tribute.
                        1000 AD — VIKINGS DESTROY CELTS.
                        ...Sacking of CARMETHEN ends independence of CELTS. They are now nothing
                        more than an occupied people whose lands are now VIKING provinces.
                        1090 AD — AMERICA, SIOUX declare war on each other.
                        1130 AD — AZTECS build Magellan's Expedition in TENOCHTITLAN.
                        1150 AD — Settlers establish TLAXCALA.
                        ...AMERICA, VIKINGS declare war on each other.
                        1190 AD — AZTECS exchange maps with SIOUX and AMERICA.
                        1200 AD — ZULUS, AMAZONS sign peace treaty.
                        1220 AD — ZULUS build King Richard's Crusade in ZIMBABWE.
                        ...AZTECS receive 100 gold tribute from AMERICA.
                        1240 AD — SIOUX build Sun Tzu's War Academy in LITTLE BIGHORN.
                        1280 AD — AMERICA builds Adam Smith's Trading Company in WASHINGTON.
                        1300 AD — SIOUX forces wreak havoc as they occupy AMERICA's territory and
                        sack her cities; so far BOSTON, PHILADELPHIA and ATLANTA have fallen.
                        AZTECS beginning to grow worried about possibility of unfettered SIOUX rule in
                        all of North America.
                        ...AZTECS, AMERICA exchange technology; AZTECS receive 50 gold tribute as well.
                        1340 AD — AMAZONS, AMERICA declare war on each other.
                        1400 AD — AMAZONS, VIKINGS declare war on each other.
                        ...VIKINGS, AMERICA sign cease-fire.
                        1420 AD — SIOUX sack AMERICA's capital city of WASHINGTON.
                        ...SIOUX execute AMERICA's leaders.
                        1440 AD — AZTECS receive 100 gold tribute from AMERICA.
                        1470 AD — SIOUX DESTROY AMERICA.
                        ...Sacking of CHICAGO reduces AMERICA to shattered, outlying provinces of a new
                        and sprawling SIOUX empire.
                        1480 AD — AZTECS build Michelangelo's Chapel in TENOCHTITLAN.
                        1490 AD — Republic ascends to power among AZTECS.
                        1500 AD — AZTECS, Sioux exchange maps and technology.
                        ...AZTEC offer of alliance is rebuffed by the SIOUX.
                        1555 AD — VIKINGS build Leonardo's Workshop in TRONDHEIM.
                        ...VIKINGS' war against AMAZONS going well; two AMAZON cities have been sacked
                        by VIKING forces thus far. But the war goes on.
                        1560 AD — Settlers establish CALIXTLAHUACA.
                        1565 AD — VIKINGS, AMAZONS sign peace treaty.
                        1600 AD — AZTECS, SIOUX exchange maps.
                        1620 AD — VIKINGS, ZULUS declare war on each other.
                        1630 AD — ZULUS, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        1640 AD — ZULUS, AZTECS make contact; sign peace treaty.
                        ...AZTECS ante up 50 gold tribute to placate ZULUS.
                        1655 AD — AMAZONS, ZULUS sign peace treaty.
                        1660 AD — SIOUX, ZULUS sign peace treaty.
                        1665 AD — VIKINGS, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        1705 AD — ZULUS, VIKINGS sign peace treaty.
                        1710 AD — Settlers establish XOCHICALCO.
                        1774 AD — SIOUX, ZULUS declare war on each other.
                        1776 AD — AZTECS, AMAZONS make contact.
                        1780 AD — VIKINGS build Women's Suffrage in CARDIFF.
                        1784 AD — AZTECS build Darwin's Voyage in TENOCHTITLAN.
                        1786 AD — ZULUS build Statue of Liberty in NGOME.
                        1788 AD — ZULUS build Eiffel Tower in WESTNESS.
                        1790 AD — ZULUS, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        ...VIKINGS, SIOUX sign cease-fire.
                        1796 AD — SIOUX, VIKINGS declare war on each other.
                        1798 AD — AMAZONS, VIKINGS sign peace treaty.
                        1804 AD — ZULUS build Shakespeare's Theatre in ZIMBABWE.
                        1822 AD — AZTECS, SIOUX exchange maps; alliance talks fail again.
                        ...ZULUS, SIOUX sign cease-fire.
                        1834 AD — AZTECS build United Nations in TENOCHTITLAN.
                        1836 AD — SIOUX, VIKINGS sign peace treaty.
                        1848 AD — AZTECS, AMAZONS sign peace treaty.
                        1850 AD — SIOUX, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        1851 AD — Settlers establish TLACOPAN.
                        ...VIKINGS build Isaac Newton's College in UPPSALA.
                        ...AZTECS, SIOUX exchange maps.
                        1855 AD — VIKINGS, ZULUS declare war on each other.
                        1858 AD — VIKINGS, SIOUX declare war on each other.
                        1864 AD — Settlers establish ATZCAPOTZALCO.
                        1865 AD — AZTECS build J.S. Bach's Cathedral in TEXCOCO.
                        1867 AD — AZTEC intelligence believes the AMAZONS are destined to join the
                        CELTS and AMERICA in oblivion. ZULU and SIOUX forces are sacking their cities at
                        leisure. The AMAZONS are probably regretting falling behind in the tech race.
                        1871 AD — AMAZONS, VIKINGS declare war on each other.
                        1877 AD — AZTECS build Hoover Dam in TENOCHTITLAN.
                        1884 AD — AZTECS, SIOUX exchange maps.
                        1887 AD — VIKINGS sack AMAZON capital of THEMISCYRA and execute leadership.
                        ...AZTEC intelligence reports that the AMAZONS are losing cities rapidly, mainly to
                        VIKING and ZULU forces. The AMAZONS have only three cities left.
                        1892 AD — AZTECS, AMAZONS exchange maps; former greased latter's willingness
                        with payment of 350 gold. AZTECS believe this will be the last contact we have
                        with the AMAZONS as an independent nation.
                        1899 AD — ZULUS, VIKINGS sign peace treaty.
                        1900 AD — ZULUS, AMAZONS sign peace treaty.
                        1901 AD — AZTECS, SIOUX exchange maps.
                        ...AMAZONS, SIOUX sign cease-fire.
                        1905 AD — Settlers establish TZINTZUNTZEN.
                        1907 AD — ZULUS, VIKINGS declare war on each other.
                        1913 AD — AZTECS discover Cure for Cancer in TLAXCALA.
                        1916 AD — VIKINGS, AMAZONS sign cease-fire.
                        1919 AD — Settlers establish MALINALCO.
                        1920 AD — ZULUS, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        1922 AD — SIOUX build Manhatten Project in WASHINGTON.
                        1923 AD — VIKINGS, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        1925 AD — AZTECS, SIOUX exchange technology.
                        1925 AD — ZULUS DESTROY AMAZONS.
                        ...Sacking of MILETOS puts AMAZONS out of their misery. Their former lands and
                        cities are now roughly half divided between the VIKINGS and the ZULUS.
                        1928 AD — AZTECS build SETI Program in TENOCHTITLAN.
                        1930 AD — SIOUX build nuclear weapons and show off "prowess" to the AZTECS.
                        ...AZTEC intelligence believes this may be an intimidation effort. If so, it's working
                        as we have no defense against a nuclear strike. If we're not careful, we might go
                        the way of AMERICA and become nothing more than outlying provinces of the
                        sprawling SIOUX empire. Thank goodness for the United Nations.
                        1932 AD — VIKINGS, SIOUX sign cease-fire.
                        1937 AD — SIOUX, ZULUS sign peace treaty.
                        1944 AD — SIOUX, VIKINGS sign peace treaty.
                        1952 AD — Engineers establish TULA.
                        ...AZTECS are closing the technology gap with the SIOUX. We hope to be able to
                        erect SDI defenses as soon as possible. That would close the window to our
                        vulnerability to nuclear attack from the SIOUX or any other nation.
                        1954 AD — VIKINGS, SIOUX declare war on each other.
                        1962 AD — SIOUX forces sack VIKING city of CARDIFF, wresting control of Women's
                        Suffrage from the VIKINGS. The former capital of the extinct CELTS is something
                        of a key city, even 962 years after the CELTS were conquered.
                        1963 AD — ZULUS, VIKINGS sign peace treaty.
                        1970 AD — VIKINGS, SIOUX sign peace treaty.
                        1971 AD — ZULUS, VIKINGS declare war on each other.
                        1976 AD — Engineers establish TAMUIN.
                        1977 AD — SIOUX build Apollo Program in YELLOWTREE.
                        1979 AD — AZTEC intelligence notes that SIOUX attitude towards us has chilled big
                        time as they begin building their starship for eventual landfall on Alpha Centauri.
                        1981 AD — SIOUX launch starship. Estimate arrival at Alpha Centauri in 1996 AD.
                        1983 AD — ZULUS sack VIKING city of THEMISCYRA. That city, as all historians well
                        know, was the capital and heart of the conquered AMAZON culture, which has been
                        under the heel of her masters since 1925 AD.
                        1991 AD — ZULU forces roll across VIKING land in southern Europe. Cities have
                        fallen to or been utterly destroyed by ZULU and VIKING armies.
                        2005 AD — Fundamentalists seize power among AZTECS.
                        2010 AD — VIKINGS, SIOUX declare war on each other.
                        ...AZTEC intelligence believes the VIKING empire is well on its way to becoming a
                        has-been power, if not outright conquered. The ZULUS have taken many VIKING
                        cities and now the SIOUX have joined the fray. Not a good formula for the future of
                        an independent VIKING nation.
                        2011 AD — ZULUS sack VIKING capital of TRONDHEIM. A civil war explodes across
                        what's left of the VIKING empire, tearing it asunder. When all is said and done, the
                        rebels have established the ENGLISH nation in many far-flung VIKING cities.
                        ...VIKING government escapes to SKARA.
                        ...ENGLISH establish capital at ODENSE.
                        2012 AD — ENGLISH, ZULUS declare war on each other.
                        ...SIOUX, ENGLISH declare war on each other.
                        2013 AD — ZULUS DESTROY VIKINGS.
                        ...Sack of SKARA and execution of VIKING leaders ends independence of VIKINGS.
                        They join the CELTS, AMAZONS and AMERICA as lands under a conqueror's boot.
                        2016 AD — ZULUS sack ENGLISH capital of ODENSE. Another civil war erupts as the
                        tenuous ENGLISH nation is ripped apart. When all is said and done, PERSIA has
                        emerged into independence.
                        ...PERSIA establishes capital at HOLMGARD.
                        ...ZULUS, PERSIA declare war on each other.
                        ...AZTEC intelligence is a bit stunned at the "uncohesiveness" of the VIKING people.
                        Other nations have done a fine job of pitting VIKING against VIKING and then taking
                        them out one by one.
                        2018 AD — ZULUS DESTROY ENGLISH.
                        ...Sacking of HEDEBY puts another segment of the former VIKING people under the
                        ZULU yoke.
                        2019 AD — ZULUS sack PERSIA's capital of HOLMGARD; PERSIA's leaders executed.
                        2020 AD — SIOUX, PERSIA declare war on each other.
                        2023 AD — ZULUS DESTROY PERSIA.
                        ...Sacking and obliteration of NONNEBAKKEN marks end of any remaining free
                        VIKINGS, no matter their self-serving identification, especially after the fall of
                        TRONDHEIM. That was when the splintering and bickering began. Well, they're all
                        under the ZULU and SIOUX heel now. Idiots. The AZTECS will not repeat the errors
                        of the conquered.
                        ...AZTEC engineers covertly deployed to Africa to prepare landing site for AZTEC
                        ground combat forces.
                        2028 AD — AZTEC ground forces deploying to African base. We're preparing for our
                        move against the ZULUS. Must bring over at least 100 divisions before making our
                        initial assault into the heart of the ZULU empire.
                        2034 AD — PAX ZULU descends all across Eurasia. AZTECS are planning to cut that
                        "peaceful" time short. Very short. We have over 100 offensive divisions deployed
                        within a covert African base and connected by rail lines to the ZULU empire. Soon,
                        we shall rip the heart out of the ZULUS!
                        2036 AD — AZTECS ATTACK ZULUS.
                        ...AZTECS give SIOUX 6250 gold in order to get them to assault ZULUS as well.
                        ...AZTECS sack NGOME, capturing the Statue of Liberty.
                        ...AZTECS sack ZULU capital of ZIMBABWE. Ensuing civil war tears ZULU empire
                        apart as AMAZONS reemerge into existence.
                        ...ZULU government reestablishes itself in HLOBANE.
                        ...AZTECS gain control of Shakespeare's Theatre, which was built in ZIMBABWE.
                        ...AMAZONS establish new capital at WESTNESS. It's apparent to AZTEC intelligence
                        now that the dream of an independent AMAZON nation didn't die with many of the
                        AMAZON people with the fall of MILETOS in 1925 AD to the ZULUS. They must have
                        simply "adapted" to life, seemingly assimilated seamlessly into the ZULU empire.
                        Not so, as AZTEC intelligence discovered. Instead, the AMAZONS have worked with
                        the conquered VIKINGS; as a result, the resurgent AMAZON nation includes many
                        former VIKING cities in addition to old AMAZON cities. Former CELTIC cities are
                        part of the fold as well, although the CELTS themselves really were assimilated
                        into the VIKING people. After all, the VIKINGS had 1013 years to digest the former
                        CELTIC people.
                        ...It must be an insult to the AMAZONS, though, that their ancient political and
                        cultural center of THEMISCYRA remains under the ZULU yoke. Not to mention other
                        ancient AMAZON cities like ERETRIA, EPHESOS, DELPHI and TROY.
                        2037 AD — SIOUX, AMAZONS sign peace treaty; sign alliance against ZULUS.
                        ...ZULU counterstrike against AZTECS was weak, to put it mildly. We shall now
                        resume our crushing advance; soon all of Africa will be part of the AZTEC empire.
                        ...AZTECS sack ISANDHLWANA, wresting control of the Pyramids from the ZULUS.
                        ...AZTECS sack HLOBANE, shattering the ZULU empire again. ZULU citizens living in
                        many outlying provinces and cities rise up in rebellion. PERSIA emerges anew from
                        the wreckage of the rebellion.
                        ...ZULUS reestablish capital in EPHESOS.
                        ...PERSIA establishes capital in ICA.
                        ...All of Africa now lies under AZTEC rule! Our combat forces will now turn their
                        weaponry toward the Middle East and beyond.
                        ...It's utter chaos across the tortured remnants of the ZULU empire. This time,
                        the sacking of a provincial capital by AZTEC forces prompts another split among
                        the ZULUS. GERMANS emerges from this split, while the ZULUS have been reduced
                        to helpless, but enraged, refugees in only three cities.
                        2037 AD — AZTECS DESTROY ZULUS.
                        ...Sack of DELPHI by AZTECS catches pitiful remnants of ZULU leadership with
                        their pants down in brothels. Damn animals. AZTEC forces execute ZULU leaders
                        to help the hookers save face with their new rulers; namely, the AZTECS!
                        ...A third and final schism occurs as some ZULUS desperately rename themselves
                        ROMANS and try to pass off as a new nation. Whatever. AZTEC forces will put an
                        end to the ROMANS soon enough.
                        ...AZTEC intelligence is absolutely stunned. Never in our wildest dreams did we
                        imagine that the ZULUS would break apart like they did after the fall of their
                        imperial center in ZIMBABWE. Well, they're no more and we rule the old heartlands
                        of the ZULUS. They shall enjoy the taste of our boot as outlying provinces!
                        ...AZTECS ATTACK ROMANS.
                        ...AZTECS DESTROY ROMANS.
                        ...AZTECS, GERMANS sign peace treaty. GERMAN leaders are based in PUCURA.
                        ...AZTECS, PERSIA sign peace treaty.
                        ...PERSIA, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        ...PERSIA, GERMANS declare war on each other.
                        ...PERSIA, SIOUX declare war on each other.
                        ...GERMANS, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        2040 AD — AMAZONS, SIOUX cancel their alliance.
                        ...The world once again is populated by competing nations instead of monolithic
                        blocs. AZTEC intelligence likes that, for it's a world where only them and the
                        SIOUX are true superpowers.
                        2042 AD — PERSIA, AMAZONS sign peace treaty.
                        2043 AD — GERMANS, AMAZONS sign peace treaty.
                        2051 AD — GERMANS, AMAZONS declare war on each other.
                        2052 AD — AZTEC covert operations incite GERMAN-occupied THEMISCYRA to rebel
                        against its rulers. Effort is successful and now the heart of the AMAZONS belongs
                        to the AZTEC empire. We shall care for her gently. Really. We like AMAZONS. That
                        is, unless the bastards decide to attack us. Then it's holy war.
                        2056 AD — AMAZONS, SIOUX declare war on each other.
                        2061 AD — PERSIA, SIOUX sign cease-fire.
                        2064 AD — PERSIA, GERMANS sign peace treaty.
                        2070 AD — AZTEC intelligence cannot help but notice how the new AMAZONS seem
                        bent on remembering the past. They have established new cities, but carrying the
                        names of their ancient cities, many of which have been destroyed over the passing
                        centuries or remain under foreign rule. We wonder if they, too, will repeat the
                        mistakes of the past.
                        2073 AD — AMAZONS use nuclear weapons on SIOUX city of CUNAXA.
                        2077 AD — AZTECS attack GERMANS.
                        ...Sacking of PUCURA puts end to GERMANS' independence. They shall be reunited
                        with their ZULU brethren under the AZTEC heel!
                        2077 AD — AZTECS attack PERSIA.
                        ...AZTECS sack PERSIA's capital of ICA.
                        ...PERSIA's leaders escape to COTOPACHI.
                        ...AZTECs smash COTOPACHI.
                        ...PERSIA's leaders retreat to last holdout in LURIN.
                        2080 AD — AMAZONS, SIOUX sign peace treaty.
                        2083 AD — AZTECS DESTROY PERSIA.
                        ...AZTEC forces finally take last of PERSIA's redoubts. Sacking of LURIN puts end
                        to independence of PERSIA. They shall now be reunited with their ZULU and
                        GERMAN brethren under the boot of the AZTEC empire!
                        2088 AD — AMAZONS, SIOUX declare war on each other.
                        2091 AD — Engineers establish TEAYO.
                        2096 AD — AZTECS attack AMAZONS.
                        ...Frightening rate of AMAZON expansion brings about snap decision by AZTECS. We
                        hope it won't end up being a rash one that costs us.
                        ...AZTEC forces roll through the southernmost provinces of the AMAZONS. We've
                        also managed to sack a few of their cities deep in Eurasia. We are now taking aim
                        at their capital city, WESTNESS.
                        ...AZTEC forces sack AMAZON capital of WESTNESS; we wrest control of the
                        Eiffel Tower away from the AMAZONS.
                        ...AMAZON leadership reestablishes capital in KAUPANG.
                        ...AZTEC advance comes to a close as our forces reach their maximum range; we
                        now await the counterstrike from the AMAZONS.
                        ...AZTEC covert forces employ operatives to detonate nuclear warhead in AMAZON
                        capital of KAUPANG. Mission is successful!
                        ...AZTEC armies sack blasted ruins of KAUPANG.
                        ...AMAZON government wobbles away to THE UDAL.
                        ...AZTEC covert forces strike repeatedly; by the time all is said and done, we have
                        bribed three AMAZON cities to switch to our rule. Our bank accounts may be dried
                        up, but we're that much closer to crushing the AMAZONS. Soon they shall be an
                        occupied and broken people again. And this time, there will be no second chance!
                        2097 AD — AMAZONS, SIOUX sign peace treaty.
                        ...AZTEC forces sack AMAZON capital of THE UDAL.
                        ...AMAZON leaders retreat to ODENSE.
                        ...ODENSE falls to advancing AZTEC forces.
                        ...AMAZON leaders desperately regroup in NEW THERMOPYLAE.
                        2098 AD — Attempt by AMAZONS to use nuclear weapons on occupied MILETOS
                        thwarted by SDI defenses.
                        ...AZTEC combat forces sack AMAZON capital of NEW THERMOPYLAE and execute
                        the enemy's best and brightest.
                        ...AZTEC intelligence expects to finish up our mopping operations against the
                        crushed AMAZONS by 2099.
                        2100 AD — AZTECS DESTROY AMAZONS.
                        ...This time there shall be no resurgence. The AMAZON nation is dead forever more
                        and will not rise again so long as the AZTEC empire rules their former lands. We
                        shall not break up, either, as the ZULUS did.
                        2101 AD — SIOUX attack AZTECS.
                        ...Enemy forces occupy CARMARTHEN.
                        ...Enemy missile forces blow apart two AZTEC battle groups in harbor.
                        ...AZTEC forces hit back and occupy CARDIFF, wresting control of Women's
                        Suffrage from the enemy.
                        ...For the first time in centuries, war rages in the Americas as AZTEC armies
                        march into the heartland of the SIOUX empire. The first casualty is BOSTON, an
                        old AMERICAN city wrested from SIOUX rule and put under the AZTEC thumb. It has
                        been 531 years since AMERICA existed. Their bloodlines have pretty much been
                        assimilated by the SIOUX, much as the VIKINGS assimiliated the CELTS.
                        ...AZTEC armies smash SIOUX forces guarding WASHINGTON and sack the former
                        capital of the assimilated AMERICAN people. We wrest control of the Manhattan
                        Project and Adam Smith's Trading Company from SIOUX control.
                        ...AZTEC armies storm SIOUX capital of LITTLE BIGHORN.
                        ...SIOUX leaders reestablish capital in WOOD LAKE.
                        ...AZTEC armies have punched deep into North America. Our forces have taken the
                        entire West Coast, heartland and most of the eastern seaboard. The SIOUX still
                        control significant chunks of northeastern and north-central North America. Not
                        for long, though, if AZTEC armies keep moving the way they have been.
                        ...SIOUX capital of WOOD LAKE falls before rampaging AZTEC armies.
                        ...SIOUX reestablish capital at BEAR PAW.
                        ...AZTEC forces sack SIOUX capital of BEAR PAW.
                        ...SIOUX city of POINT OF ROCKS becomes newest home for SIOUX leaders.
                        ...AZTEC offensive forces have exhausted themselves. The SIOUX bastards still
                        have control of a good chunk of northeastern North America and their domination
                        of Greenland remains uncontested at this point, along with Iceland and some other
                        islands just off the north coast of North America.
                        2102 AD — AZTEC armies roll into SIOUX capital of POINT OF ROCKS.
                        ...SIOUX elite regroup again in FIRST WIND.
                        ...AZTEC armies sweep into FIRST WIND.
                        ...SIOUX rats jump ship and stink up YELLOWTREE. Yes, AZTEC respect for the
                        rats who call themselves SIOUX is at an all-time low. They started this war, and we
                        plan to end it. When that time comes, all of Earth shall be nothing more than mere
                        provinces to the mighty AZTEC empire!
                        ...YELLOWTREE falls to AZTEC combat forces; fall of city also delivers the Apollo
                        Program's home city into AZTEC hands.
                        ...SIOUX leaders retreat to MORNING ROCK in Greenland.
                        ...The AZTEC military is proud to announce that its forces now control all of North
                        America. The evil SIOUX have been expelled from their birthlands and can now only
                        plot and grovel from Greenland, Iceland and a few other islands. Soon the AZTEC
                        empire shall snuff out these nests of rats as well.
                        2105 AD — AZTEC armies sack STANDING ROCK, eradicating the last SIOUX city in
                        the Eurasian continent.
                        2106 AD — SIOUX bastards use nuclear weapons against occupied THUNDERBIRD.
                        Intelligence reports 16 AZTEC divisions lost in addition to heavy civilian casualties
                        within the destroyed city.
                        ...AZTEC nation draws up plan to eradicate remaining SIOUX through use of spies
                        carrying backpack one-megaton warheads. If the SIOUX wish to use nukes, then we
                        have no compunction about wiping their sorry asses with nukes in return.
                        ...Last of SIOUX cities off the north coast of North America have been conquered.
                        The price was high, however, what with the THUNDERBIRD incident. If this is the
                        SIOUX endgame, then we must stiffen our resolve even more. So is the heavy price
                        of ruling an entire world.
                        2107 AD — SIOUX hit FIRST WIND with nuclear weapons.
                        ...AZTEC forces make first landings in Greenland and fortify inside bases.
                        ...AZTEC operatives destroy WHITEHORSE in a blast of thermonuclear fire.
                        2108 AD — SIOUX hit POINT OF ROCKS with nuclear weapons.
                        ...AZTEC intelligence plans to wreak vengeance on remaining SIOUX; to that end, all
                        of Greenland will be returned to nature. That means killing every single SIOUX
                        bastard that survives our invasion of that land.
                        ...AZTEC forces begin storming SIOUX cities located in Greenland. As each city is
                        conquered, OPERATION FOUR WINDS is initiated: namely, all citizens are enslaved
                        and the city is starved into non-existence. Surviving citizens will be converted into
                        slave engineer battalions, which will then begin erasing all traces of humanity's
                        presence in Greenland. Afterwards, the slave engineers battalions will be executed
                        like the rats they are.
                        ...SIOUX capital of MORNING ROCK sacked by AZTEC armies.
                        ...SIOUX war criminals escape to RED ELM.
                        ...RED ELM falls to AZTEC forces.
                        ...SIOUX war criminals scurry away to BADLANDS.
                        ...BADLANDS occupied by AZTEC forces.
                        ...NAPLES becomes last redoubt for SIOUX war criminals.
                        ...Desperate rats manage to escape NAPLES as city becomes object of target
                        practice by AZTEC gunners.
                        ...AZTECS DESTROY SIOUX.
                        ...Liberation of CARMARTHEN from SIOUX occupiers puts end to SIOUX nation's
                        independence. Unlike other conquered powers, we intend to treat the fallen SIOUX,
                        especially in Greenland, as the ****ing cattle they are. To be used, then killed. The
                        SIOUX shall have no part in humanity's future whatsoever. In fact, AZTEC
                        scientists have a long-range plan now to return all of North America to pristine
                        wilderness. Only a few former AMERICAN and SIOUX cities shall remain.
                        2108 AD — Two deep-space military probes are dispatched to Alpha Centauri. Each
                        probe carries a pair of five-megaton thermonuclear warheads. We should hear
                        back within 30 years as to their success in destroying the SIOUX colonists clinging
                        desperately to an alien world so far away.

                        CYBERAmazon
                        "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

                        "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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                        • #13
                          CW - no offence either taken or, I hope, given.

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                          Scouse Git[1]

                          "Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
                          "The Great Library must be built!"
                          "A short cut has to be challenging,
                          were it not so it would be 'the way'."
                          - Paul Craven
                          "Our words are backed by empty wine bottles! - SG(2)
                          "One of our Scouse Gits is missing." - -Jrabbit

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                          • #14
                            Depends on the year...

                            REALLY early, horseman can do big damage to those lowly warriors, but the window of opportunity is limited.

                            If you get iron works from a hut early (It's not a high research priority early for me), vet legions can kick butt.

                            Forget chariots... the only ones I ever have I get from huts. But, if you should meet somebody early with that chariot

                            If you race to Chivalry, vet knights can be VERY powerful.

                            A combonation of vet pikeman and vet cats may be slow, but almost unstopable until gunpowder.

                            Super Ironclads always work.

                            Vet Crusaders are my favorite.

                            The key is "what can you get" before anybody else... then use it!

                            Keep on Civin'
                            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • #15
                              Veteran stealth fighter. He's amazingly effective!

                              He's relatively cheap (with 80 shields he's MUCH cheaper that the bomber), have 14 movement points, can attack multiple times killing a multitude of units during a single turn and ignores city walls. When he has done his work he returns safely to his home city (preferably with airport so that resting a turn there would restore his full strength) and is soon ready to attack again. If this isn't enough to glorify the mighty stealth fighter there is one nice feature more: he won't cause unhappiness in demo, because he is considered to be a defensive unit by game designers!

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