Food Caravans...?

[Eddy]

Some people that I have spoken too have denounced the use of food caravans as cheating.

What use would that be?! Tell me again.

I used it in a SP game, and thought it could be useful in a MP game...

What uses for a food caravan except to fill the granaries?!

One other question if this is kosher, is once a food trade route is established how do you get rid of it? I've tried making new ones but I can't get rid of it!! Doh!

Its probably a question asked alot and I have made an effort to backtrack through the volumes of backdated messages but there are tons of em! You people do message alot!

Eddy

ps, who would want to disable smiles?!?

[SandMonkey]

Well, i think some people consider using food caravans to rush-build wonders is a cheat, but hey, the game designers OBVIOUSLY had this intended (since it's a friggin option on the menu!).

If you want to cancel a food route, the best way i have seen is just send a food caravan from a different city to the one you are trying to cancel the route in. The +1 food will cancel the -1.

And as for other uses.... build tons of food caravans, store them all in a city, and when you want to build a wonder, have them all move out, and then back into the city and you can rush build the wonder in one turn!

[Smash]

food caravans are not a cheat.They provide a way to counter "we love" days of Republic and Democracy.The trade route penalty is evidence of this.It is covered in the manual.Especially using them for wonders.

if the sending city runs out of food the food "trade" route will be canceled

[AkwaticDudeCity]

To cancel food traderoutes, establish regular traderoutes.
Only the third traderoute from the supplying city will cancel the food traderoute. For the receiving city it doesn't matter.

But what's that about food caravans being a cheat? That's probably the most ridiculous thing i've ever ... ogh, next thing you know someone is going to claim building cities on mountain hexes is a cheat too

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ugh crud, why won't they fall prey to my Machiavellian schemes?

[Carolus Rex]

Erh, hm...

Food caravans per se is not a cheat, how can they be? Using them for wonder building or disbanding purposes is no different than using commodity caravans!

It's the food caravan trick that some people (your's truly included) consider a cheat.

Carolus

[rah]

So let me get this straight. Their secondary use is ok, but using them for what they were designed for is cheating?

RAH
Even the Ferrets can't make sense of this one.

[Ming]

ROTFLMAO...
I agree with the ferrets

[Carolus Rex]

To the Lord of the Ferrets (and relatives!)...

Was growing cities one pop a turn using food caravans intended by the designers? I wasn't referring to adding one food per turn, obviously that's not a cheat!

Carolus

[This message has been edited by Carolus Rex (edited April 12, 2000).]

[Smash]

Yes it was.read the manual.

[Ming]

YEAH... read the manual... Still ROTFLMAO...

[Steve Clark]

You can think of a caravan that is disbanded to build wonders as an EMPTY one, regardless what you initially choose to carry. The 50 shields you get is just the value of the camel meat butchered for the dogs.

[mindseye]

Using food caravans to build Wonders is perfectly legitimate!

(1) They cost the same to build as any other caravan. Since they really represent a city-to-city transfer of shield resources, their contribution to the Wonder should be the same.

(2) Unlike, say, ship-chaining, it still makes sense within the context of the game (important criteria). Major shipments of food into a city could certainly allow for a larger workforce to concentrate on building the Wonder at hand.

[The Mad Monk]

quote: Was growing cities one pop a turn using food caravans intended by the designers?

Was growing cities one pop a turn using WLT*D intended by the designers?

[Carolus Rex]

Ming, does this mean that 8.3) in the cheat list should be deleted?

Now I'm really confused...

Carolus

[Ming]

No... it is still a cheat the way I suggest using it. I don't think the designers had any clue that you would keep sending food caravans to a city from THE SAME CITY! By doing the same city to same city, only ONE food route is charged against the originating city... allowing you to send as many as you want, growing the city to super size while only having a minus 1 food from the supplying city. Now, that's a cheat... (I think )