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[La Fayette]

EG, I am afraid you are a bragger combined with a coward.
A few weeks ago, Dave offered you a game and you just stayed silent. Now I offer you one and you say it's for rookies.
It's a pity you behave so, since you are probably a clever player at this game and I am quite sure you could bring some useful knowledge to your fellows, like most other good players do.
Too bad.


(La Fayette, sorry for EG)

[EyesOfNight]

Wait a minute here, dave didn't challenge me to a game. Where was this at? And you aren't offering me a game. if you were offering me a game you would say "Lets set up a game. What's the IP?" You do not say "Lets play against the AI and compare the saves."

[La Fayette]

EG
'Let us play against the AI and compare the saves'
this is exactly what my proposal was.
People like Xin Yu, smash, arii, or the Gits are no rookies (or do you think they are?) and they find it just fine.
And comparing my savegames to theirs IS a challenge.
If you deny to compare yours, I can't help thinking there is some kind of cowardice behind it.
Have a nice time playing MP, EG (AFAIK there is a forum where you can find challengers). Not with me though, since I haven't played one MP game in my life.
As far as Dave is concerned, I don't remember what kind of game he offered, but it is very easy to ask him, if you don't fear it.

[Scouse Gits]

As I recall, DaveV proposed one of our 'standard' games i.e. Deity, Raging, Random map and 'Eyes' as EG then was declined on the grounds that Deity & Raging just made the game a lottery - but I may be misremembering.

[EyesOfNight]

Ok, that proposal from DaveV was like 2 or 3 months ago. SEcond, I offered to compromise on settings and he would only play one setting. And you're right, I do consider all of them rookies with the exception of arii. Anyone who plays against the AI is a rookie. Try playing an MP game la fayette and then come talk to me. It doesn't take a genius to beat up on the AI. And I am the one who asked DaveV to a game, he didn't ask me to a game.

[La Fayette]

about rookies

EG
You can call me a rookie at playing MP. This is perfectly true: I have never played an MP game (yet?).
I don't call you a rookie at playing SP, since I know that you have certainly played SP a lot before starting MP.
That is why I call you a coward.
If you wish to give lessons to those playing MP, then play against
Rah or Ming or other strong MP players, and post your results on the MP forum.
If you wish to give lessons to those playing SP, then show us what you can achieve, come and play the SGs' comparison game.
I don't say you won't beat me. I know perfectly well how many mistakes I made in my last game.
As Dave used to say, all records are here to be beaten. I am quite sure you can beat me if you are as strong as you seem to think you are. But if you just stay there and say La Fayette is a rookie, I say you are a coward.

[EyesOfNight]

Do you know how many people have called me a coward or told me to put my money where my mouth is? You think you are the first? You are just another in a long long line of players who have done it. I used to answer every challenge that came my way. However I no longer just jump in and start proving my worth. The fact of the matter is your insults and your stature don't warrant my time. I can't go out and prove every rookie wrong that I come accross. And while I think rah and Ming are good guys, they aren't what I would call strong MP players. Markusf, Arii, Kaak, and a few others, those are strong MP players. Ming and Rah are intermediates for lack of a better word. And I'm not here to give lessons to SP players. I don't really care what SP players do because they're still living in the past. SP was the in thing about 3 years ago. You want to be a top player these days, you have to play MP. You can't compare a human to an AI, the computer will never be able to match the intelligence needed. The fact of the matter is a 5 year old can beat the AI on Deity. You want to challenge me to a game? Fine, you have to prove you're worth it first and you have to play MP.

[La Fayette]

EG
It is very clear that you despise SP. That doesn't leave much to be discussed between you and me, since I don't play MP.
There is at least one strong MP player who is more open-minded than you are, namely arii. He is one of those who take part in the comparison game that I mentioned, just after having played the 'Discover' scenario with me. And I am glad to tell you that he is a strong SP player.
I have started a PBEM game with some other rookies, so perhaps that leads us to playing MP later on...
BTW EG, AFAIK there is no MP version of civ3 coming out in the near future. Aren't you going to play SP meanwhile?

[Smash]

Eyes knows how to play.We did the how many wonders in cap by 1ad.We did the all tech on prince by 1000bc.2x of course.
He came up with a great idea in that.Build up a fat city and let the ai have it.Then use it for your trading.

I don't why he acts the way he does.He just likes being the protagonist I guess.

[Ming]

Originally posted by EnigmaticGod
And while I think rah and Ming are good guys, they aren't what I would call strong MP players. Markusf, Arii, Kaak, and a few others, those are strong MP players. Ming and Rah are intermediates for lack of a better word.

I disagree... Markusf, Arii, Kaak, and a few others, those are GREAT MP players. Rah and I are some of the strong ones

I never claimed to be number one... because frankly, it would ring REALLY Hollow

But I can hold my own against some of the great players...

[EyesOfNight]

That's great la fayette. I'm happy for arii. I on the other hand won't waste my time on it. I've been spanking the AI since I was 10. I've played ALL the scenarios against the AI and I find them all a waste of time. There is no way you can ever convince me playing against the AI proves anything. And obviously I will play some SP when civ 3 comes out, that has nothing to do with playing civ2 sp. Ming those that I mentioned can't beat me. I won't go into the win loss record with them. So therefore only I am a GREAT player and they are just strong players. MUWAHAHAHA!!!!

[La Fayette]

muwahahaha

Then comes civ3 and we all play SP together...for a while, and even EG will be a rookie then
MUWAHAHAHA

[Ming]

Originally posted by EnigmaticGod
Ming those that I mentioned can't beat me. I won't go into the win loss record with them. So therefore only I am a GREAT player and they are just strong players. MUWAHAHAHA!!!!

picky... picky... picky

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Smash
Eyes knows how to play

I don't why he acts the way he does.He just likes being the protagonist I guess.

You sum up exactly what I think.
...and if we look at the brilliant side of the coin before tossing, it will be fun to have protagonists when civ3 comes to us.

[Marquis de Sodaq]

Originally posted by SlowThinker
Didn't you suggest once in the past to ignore Enigmatic Eyes?

Yes, I ought to heed my own advice...