On the road to becoming an expert: Day 1

[EyesOfNight]

I don't know what you're doing but in all my years I have never had that problem and I know alot of other people who haven't had that problem either.

[rah]

Don't know what to say, it didn't work at one point, and at least I had a witness. Maybe you've just never noticed when it wasn't working. It's not like you click every turn. I know Ming has also experienced this, so it's just not my machine. I would love to know the circumstances of when it does or when it doesn't in case there is a way to control it, because, as you've stated, it's a valuable tool.. Did bird send you the save file?

Rich

[EyesOfNight]

YEs and I saw nothing unusual. I've had games in those sorts of positions where it shows the 63 from the very first turn.

[rah]

It was working at the begining, then it stopped working, then it worked again. Strange.

[EyesOfNight]

Think about it, the map doesn't change once it's been created right? Well those numbers are created at the same time as the map and are stored for the entire game. You HAVE to be doing something. It is impossible for them to change. That's like having the map reform itself half way through the game.

[rah]

Yeah, you would think that, but I've seen otherwise. And having been a programmer for almost 25 years and managed applications, nothing surprises me. At least we replicated it. Don't know why, but we replicated it. I think it is similar to the show defender. We play no alliance and rarely trade maps, and we see it a lot, so we know that has nothing to do with it. Just a bug in the program. I believe you were never intended to see those numbers in unexplored area and they didn't do a good job testing/implementing it.

Rich

[EyesOfNight]

Eh, maybe. It's possible. But I've never had a problem with it so lucky me I guess. hehehe I love the way all my threads get 1 star.

[rah]

The days I start caring about the ratings, I'll stop posting. I''ve been interested in this thread, and that's all I really care about.

I did try testing it most of one evening and couldn't get it not to work once, and was really starting to think that I was getting too old.

Of course, there is always that chance that the few rare times it didn't work for you, you may not have noticed it, since you trust it completly, unless it was a real obvious one, you may have not seen it and just assume you had clicked wrong. Heaven knows I've done that enough when I expect to see something.

I paid a heck of a lot more attention to it last night, and I assume you will too. That's the true value of these threads. No matter how much I've learned about this game, the are always some real screwy surprises. Actually I hope you experience it once just so you don't think I was yanking your chain. Like me, I assume you like to see things before you believe them.


Rich

[Deity Dude]

Just a thought that is totally untested.

Eyes usually plays on premade maps, I believe RAH plays on random small maps. Eyes usually plays duels, RAH 4 player. Eyes usually plays 2x2x king, RAH 2x1x Deity.

I don't know if any of this has anything to do with it but it very well could (especially premade maps vs computer generated maps)

Remember, it was thought impossible for a non-host to get techs but later discovered that a non-host could get techs on 2x2x king with an AI.

[EyesOfNight]

First of all it has nothing to do with that. Second of all, what the hell makes you think I play premade maps?

[Deity Dude]

Umm, you told me!!

You said u played on premade maps to make sure that land area was distributed fairly (no starting on 1 square islands) and to make sure that you didn't get what you called a "mountain map"

[EyesOfNight]

I said Customized maps, I did not say premade maps.

[Deity Dude]

I stand corrected

[Rasputin]

Originally posted by EnigmaticGod
I said Customized maps, I did not say premade maps.

without envoking the wrath of EG and his little friend, is customised maps jsut the ones where you set the Age, Climate, size ?? And premade maps are totally known ones designed with map editor??

If so I always play Customised ones too, I thought most did...

[Ming]

Most of the people I play with... customized maps is the name of the game...never pre=made maps...