Do you use Einsteins?

[MyOlde]

I know I can switch citizens to Elvises to calm the unruly population, but it never occurs to me to switch them to Einsteins or Tax Collectors.

Do you do this? Do you do it often? And under what circumstances? How beneficial is it to do this?

Thanks, as always, in advance.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

I use the science guys in a super science city. Here I'll use 7,8 more citizens for science guys.

Tax citizens... if I dont need a citizen as a science of elvis I'll make him a tax collector. I have 1 in every city. Sometimes 2 but most of the time not more than that.

[geofelt]

For the science city, einsteins can improve science a bunch. You want to use them after the pop grows past 21. You may get more science by exchanging production for science. On occasion, I am racing the ai to get a tech for a wonder. I then go through each city and adjust for the max science. Other than that, I don't bother.

[Xin Yu]

Best time to use Einsteins is when the corruption is high and unhappiness is bad. Einsteins are content, and the sciences from them do not get wasted. Furthermore, perhaps you really don't want the city to grow further due to unhappiness, so food is not important.

Another special case is that you want to get a new government (monarchy, democracy), or you are trying to get philosophy first (a free tech). You may want to convert all citizens to Einsteins for a turn or two (even starving) to get what you want faster.

Otherwise, use Einsteins after you build library at least, or the science is too little to be considered worthwhile.

[Bird]

I've also noticed that sometimes when you have a city that goes into disorder b/c of an extra pop, you can take a worker off of a square and make him and einstein instead of an elvis and still return the city to order. I have no idea why this works, but I often get that result, and it's a real bonus to actually get some use out of the specialist instead of wasting it on an elvis.

[SmartFart]

Heres one example:

City is size 8,i have 3 units in it and a temple,goverment is monarchy and i already have mysticism. Now i have 2 unhappy citizens. If i turn one citizen in entertainer,city will go into disorder next turn. If i turn 2 citizens into entertainers,i'll get one citizen happy. Since theres no use of that one happy citizen i'll turn one entertainer into scientist and all 8 of them will be content.

[tobyr]

I use einsteins AND even tax collectors in cities that are extremely food-rich. in the ToT fantasy game, such city sites are extremely common in the underseas map. A city may have lots of squares that produce three food and more, but little else. I use the production capabilities just to support the city (a little defense, aqueduct...), and pile up the einsteins.

- toby


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[Aurelius]

In OCC, can't imagine anyone not using Einsteins and Taxman--Elvis is pointless. As I now understand things, taxman would make sense in 21 + games where science is going to overflow.

Aurelius.

[Sten Sture]

Sometimes I will use Eins early if I have a size 5 or 6 city and not enough trade squares to keep everyone busy. The extra 3 science can be double the science of having all five workers in the field.

[klesh]

Einstien's are a must in the science city.
I can't tell you how good it is to have a science city.
I've been able to pump out 300+ beakers per turn from only 1 city.
Without using the Einstiens, it may only be at 200, which still is good but, you can't beat getting 26 future techs, about 1 every 2 turns!

[Ming]

I'm with SS. Since I micromanage my cities, I will convert somebody to a Einstein when I don't need the extra food or shields.
Plus, if I'm trying to get to a science quickly, (monarchy, or a science to build a wonder), I may convert a bunch of non trade workers to Einsteins to speed things up.

I almost never use taxmen...

[Nimrod.]

I've noticed that having a democratic government provides less science (with all the happiness features you need to include_ than being fundamentalist, in which you can convert all "extra" citizens to scientists, and also boost up the science rate.

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[Steve Clark]

Another use of Einsteins is what Xin mentioned in another thread: At the next to last turn, change all citizens to happy and einsteins to get a boost in your score (if you're into that kind of thing).

By the way, Xin, do we call you Dr. Yu PhD or Xin Yu PhD-PhD I thought about doing one but found that academics would really cramp my work and the income I derive therefrom - not to mention game-playing

[Xin Yu]

Steve: Did I mention that? If so I'm sure I was not the first one.

Since one may not be concerned about science at the last moment of the game, making people entertainers would be better than making them scientist.

[kcbob]

I'm more interested in the use of taxmen. I almost, well, never, use them. I'm intrigued by MWHC's mention of having at least one in every city. I suppose that would boost income to a very comfortable level, n'est-ce pas?

Also, I had to edit this message and say... "Praise the Lord!!!". I've shed the "Settler" tag.

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[This message has been edited by kcbob (edited January 08, 2000).]