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  • #16
    There are many occasions when a small continent on a large map will give a reasonable start with extra science. However, this process is not consistent. Just as there are examples of mega starts, there are many awful positions at 4000BC! These foibles keep us guessing and playing

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    • #17
      Geofelt

      Have you played out this start?? What path did you follow--AC or conquest??

      I started out AC with seven cities as a core. Then I got an advanced tribe on the continent to the West which led to a land war with the Greeks; very draining and diverting of resources and attention. One thing led to another and now it looks like it'll be a conquest game for me. Don't know if there will be enough time though. And it is interesting taking on the world as less than Supreme--the other Civs completely ignore my demands. For now.
      so long and thanks for all the fish

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      • #18
        I started a ToT game yesterday night and began with 7 techs. The continent was a large one - but this is the interesting part - my 'immediate' start position had 1 grassland, some plains, 1 or 2 desert, and 2 fish in the radius! Not a bad start, all things considered. However, once I started to explore with my 2nd Settler (and later, with Warriors) the rest of the terrain on my end of the continent was fairly crummy. I started most of my cities in whale or fish access spots just so they would grow.

        Bottom line is - this tends to make me think that the program grants techs based on more than just the 21 squares you can see at the start.

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        • #19
          I went for conquest. I got to a point where it was just a matter of time, so I quit. My approach is to build up my economy and bribe cities.

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          • #20
            Even though it makes the game quite easier, I never got into bribing cities. There was just no satisfaction in it. I guess I just like to smash all the defenders. And it would really irritate me when a spy would slip through and on that rare occasion and bribe one of my cities. (since I was usually in democracy or had so much money it was too cost prohibitive)

            But that's the beauty of the game. If you don't like doing it the simple way, there's always many harder alternatives.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by rah
              Even though it makes the game quite easier, I never got into bribing cities. There was just no satisfaction in it. I guess I just like to smash all the defenders.
              Well said, rah.

              I only have SP and I choose deity, raging for the same reason. City bribing takes away too much of the challenge. I think of it as giving the AI a handicap, like in golf or bowling. Barb cities are different in my mind and I do bribe them on occasion. Planning a successful invasion and watching it unfold really gets 'the little gray cells' going.

              It is all about having fun....
              so long and thanks for all the fish

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              • #22
                RAH takes a bow.

                I'm glad most people agree to no city bribing when we play MP.
                Before we did, every game was a get money or lose all your cities game. Not much fun.

                RAH
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • #23
                  If you station a Spy in your city does she not have the chance to defend against the dastardly actions of your enemy Spy?
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                  • #24
                    how about a no city wall game?

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                    • #25
                      IIRC, a dip/spy in your city protects only against tech theft, not against any of the other spy capabilities.

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