Campo Challenge 1

[Scouse Gits]

OK, La Fayette -- this time you have me totally nonplussed --

"impure blood will not water our furrows" ??? wtf!

I 'think' I got the rest

SG[1]

[Bloody Monk]

ST

Sorry about the confusion...right up your alley...was meant as a compliment and an acknowledgement of your vaunted and esteemed prowess as a researcher.

To all who complain about my use of the language:
--I bow to the reality that your English is a billion times more proficient than
my [fill in the blank]
--I hold to the view that the communicator is responsible if the commication
goes wrong...mea culpa
--how similar these two words...idiom and idiot

For what it's worth, I was just asking for help in understanding a new (to me) game strat.

And the doubters marvel at how astrologers can say Mercury retrograde tends to facillitate communication problems.

[Campo]

impure blood will not water our furrows

He's right, of course. I only use pure blood to water my furrows.

Google translation says that the rest of it is:

"What do you think my friends of them? The language of Molière was spoken in all the courses about Europe, and here in Apolyton, aren't we the successors of all these more or less enlightened despots?"

Is that essentially it?

[Scouse Gits]

Yep, my version - probably incorrect - came out as something like
"So what do you think, my friends? The language of Moliere was spoken in all the Courts of Europe; are not we at Apolyton the successors of all those more or less enlightened rulers?"

SG[1]

[Campo]

"Courts of Europe" makes a lot more sense than "courses about Europe".

The Google translator did say it's a beta version.

[Scouse Gits]

Well my French is of the 'empirical kind' I have found that after you say the the magic words, "Je voudrais acheter six bouteilles, s'il vous plait." even the most recalcitrant Frenchman finds that he can in fact speak English

SG[1]

[SlowThinker]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
your vaunted and esteemed prowess

"Yada bada say" was easier for me , I had to send every word into my dictionary now.

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
...right up your alley...was meant as a compliment and an acknowledgement

I understood you flattered (bootlicked?) , but I thought you need no help.
Anyway tell me if you will be prepared to the crime, I am prepared to help.

[Graag]

finished!

sorry, DP

[Graag]

finished!

Finished 700AD (I think)
The reason I say 'I think' is that on that turn I destroyed/liberated the last city of all AI civs. Although I got a new set the next turn, does that technically count as a win? I skimmed some of the posts to look for rules and came across:

I then decided to plan a combined attack of the last city of all enemy civs (it was fun planning that). 'Victory' in 1320AD

in the rules section, so I assume that counts as a victory.

I've played a couple of challenges and a couple of OCC before, and I knew from experiance to load up civ242 rather than MGE for easier AI.
My strat was to expand as much as possible early, attack as soon as all but the last city of a civ can be defeated and build elephant/knights when a city cannot do anything else useful (barracks where applicable). The game probably could have been over a bit quiker as I expanded too much and didnt build enough barracks.
I can put .sav's and my log on if anyone i interested.

I do enjoy challenges like this and I'd love a new one... something a little unusual; - having to build some wonders etc. i interesting.
Might be a good idea to start on a medium world, maybe on a small island to make things a little more varied and interesting - lots of different strategies people can play. Small worlds mean early conquer every time, a medium to large world means building a civilisation of some kind before attacking, which i like, and the chance to play for trade, which is negated in a small world.

Lot of fun!

[Scouse Gits]

Nope Graag - back to the slaughterhouse - the meaning of the extract you quoted was that in order to avoid the restarting civs phenomena DrFell set out to destroy all 6 other civs on the same turn - so there was no next turn for them to restart ...

SG[1]

[JCP]

Julius Campo SG...
Qu'en pensez-vous mes amis ? La langue de Molière était parlée dans toutes les cours d'Europe, et ici à Apolyton, ne sommes-nous pas les successeurs de tous ces despotes plus ou moins éclairés ?

Result of the translation exam :
Scouse Gits :B+
Campo : C
Google : D

[Scouse Gits]

Why thank you, kind Sir...

SG[1]

[Graag]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
Nope Graag - back to the slaughterhouse - the meaning of the extract you quoted was that in order to avoid the restarting civs phenomena DrFell set out to destroy all 6 other civs on the same turn - so there was no next turn for them to restart ...

But I did destroy them all on the same turn! Each city I took/destroyed gave me a 'the civiliation has been destroyed' message, but they still restarted.

Here is a zip for AD680 and 700, the tun before and then the turn in which I took the cities:

[Bloody Monk]

Graag

Indeed you did conquer the final city of each Civ on the last turn. Congratulations are in order!!

How significant to your victory was building the Gardens?? I am retrying this one with more of a focus on quick victory (quicker than the first time, I hope) and am trying to get by without it. Thanks for providing the saves.

[Bloody Monk]

I retried this game using a version of the Strat outlined by DrFell...keep it lean, attack early and often with vets, no bribing of AI cities, take all the AI 's down on the same turn...and I finished in 150b. Even considering I had played the map before that is a vast improvement over 720a, the result the first time.

I learned something new and powerful following this path. I was unable to do it without temples and the Garden, though.

How do you deal with a red face in a size two city, with three units for martial law-- without a temple?? Making an Elvis kills production of either food or shields or both. The problem was generating black faces because I now had too many cities as I began to capture the AI cities. This started at city 14 (12+2 from AI. Perhaps I built too many of my own.?.)

There is no denying the power of this approach on a small map but it sure looks ugly. A bunch of size 3 and 4 cities hardly "seems" like a Civilazation. Brings to mind a song from my youth with the lyric, "she may be ugly, but she sure can cook." This was great fun.