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**Bloody Monk** · May 21, 2002, 17:47

Originally posted by SlowThinker

Try this:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ2cedric.shtml

and tell us if it works...

Very interesting. I'll have to think about this as I am a bit intimidated by the following from that site...

DO NOT CONTACT ME WITH PROBLEMS RELATED TO INSTALLATION OR RUNNING OF THE PATCHES, if you cannot follow directions then you are too stupid for me to deal with as I have little patience.

I may be too stupid...certainly unskilled with computers.

**SlowThinker** · May 21, 2002, 19:19

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
Very interesting. I'll have to think about this as I am a bit intimidated by the following from that site...

DO NOT CONTACT ME WITH PROBLEMS RELATED TO INSTALLATION OR RUNNING OF THE PATCHES, if you cannot follow directions then you are too stupid for me to deal with as I have little patience.

Very encouraging...

I wouldn't be afraid of that...

**Bloody Monk** · May 22, 2002, 19:16

Thanks ST.

Does anyone have any experience applying these (5) patches??

Sounds like a research project right up your alley, ST. Whata ya say??

**SlowThinker** · May 22, 2002, 19:45

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
Sounds like a research project right up your alley, ST. Whata ya say??

Ay say nata, u hava ta spika a pura englese if you want there is a chance I understand you

**Bloody Monk** · May 22, 2002, 21:06

You don't understand??

I was asking for help.

Never mind.

**Scouse Gits** · May 23, 2002, 04:48

Just a word of warning - although several people have found thes 'patches' both useful and successful. They are not entirely legal (although Smash and I have already comes to blows over this...)

SG[1]

**La Fayette** · May 23, 2002, 04:54

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
. Whata ya say??

Can you understand that some people post on this forum without being native english speakers?
Both ST and I, and quite a lot of other posters have been taught 'what do you say?' at school.
I confess that I would personally consider it polite not to use such kind of language ('b4, whataya,...', and the like).
Thank you to you all native speakers

**La Fayette** · May 23, 2002, 05:01

L'exactitude est la politesse des rois...
La correction du langage pourrait être celle des correspondants à Apolyton.

(La Fayette, ready to fight for the use of correct english language on this forum)

**Scouse Gits** · May 23, 2002, 05:09

La Fayette - before you "... formez nos bataillons ..." please remember that not all native english speakers have as good a grasp of the language as do ST and yourself.
It is very easy to be lazy in one's native tongue

SG[1]

**DaveV** · May 23, 2002, 07:44

Her English is too good, he said,
Which clearly indicates that she is foreign.
While others are instructed in their native language,
English people aren't.

"You did it", from My Fair Lady

**SlowThinker** · May 23, 2002, 08:26

Originally posted by La Fayette
Can you understand that some people post on this forum without being native english speakers?

I think that everybody must understand it, my english must be ridiculous.

Originally posted by La Fayette
I confess that I would personally consider it polite not to use such kind of language ('b4, whataya,...', and the like).

For me, this is OK, sometimes I learn something, sometimes I don't understand...
In fact, I understood "Whata ya say??" well, but I didn't understand "Sounds like a research project right up your alley"

! I suppose this is a perfect english...
Bloody Monk, I thought you wanted to say that you will follow my alley (I often research something) and you will try it yourself.
I am prepared to help, but don't you want to try it first and then post problems (if arise)?

Originally posted by SG[1]
please remember that not all native english speakers have as good a grasp of the language as do ST...

Good joke!

**Campo** · May 23, 2002, 09:02

ST,

Your English is fine. Sometimes you phrase things a little differently from a native speaker, but there's never a problem understanding you.

Thirty-five years ago I spoke decent Romanian, but I've since joined the vast majority of Americans who only know one language. I think it's a national shortcoming (and partly a consequence of our geographical isolation) that we place such little importance on multi-lingualism.

Sounds like a research project right up your alley

That simply means that it seems like a research project that is very appropriate for you. "Right up your alley" is idiomatic for "compatible with one's interests or qualifications" (American Heritage Dictionary online). It says the orign is Middle English (1600's).

**Bloody Monk** · May 23, 2002, 10:17

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
Just a word of warning - although several people have found thes 'patches' both useful and successful. They are not entirely legal (although Smash and I have already comes to blows over this...) SG[1]

Thanks SG[1]. I appreciate your helpful advise.

As I mentioned, I am not at all skilled at these advanced computer practices. Perhaps saying I had "fear of breaking something syndrome" was not understood by all. Perhaps I should have said..."I have a bad feeling about this"; based on my lack of experience patching and the very intimidating disclaimer, I really need some help here...like does this work or is this useful??? Thankfully, you SG[1], understood perfectly that I was asking for help and you did.

The legallity angle occurred to me, but vaguely. I missed the thread you referred to. Am I to understand that your position is that these patches are at best unauthorised if not outright illegal?? Maybe I should just go back to the game. This is getting way over my head.

**Julius Brenzaida** · May 23, 2002, 10:27

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
La Fayette - before you "... formez nos bataillons
SG[1]

Well, let's hope that "le sang impur n'abreuvera pas nos sillons"

I propose that we all speak in french, if our misuse of english is too shameful

Qu'en pensez-vous mes amis ? La langue de Molière était parlée dans toutes les cours d'Europe, et ici à Apolyton, ne sommes-nous pas les successeurs de tous ces despotes plus ou moins éclairés ?

**Scouse Gits** · May 23, 2002, 10:32

Yep that is exactly my position.
Although I entirely sympathise - Microprose/Firaxis/Infogames or whoever actually possesses the Civ2 franchise is serving the public very poorly, if at all. Civ2 has virtually become 'abandonware', but that term itself is really only a poor justification for piracy.
Since you hail from the 'Land of the Free' you should have no difficulty in acquiring MGE from a dealer at a suitable bargain basement price -- but if that proves to be impossible you are left with few alternatives to Cedric's 'patch'. However, if you choose to take this route please ensure that you make a backup copy of the entire Civ2 directory and contents - easily done in Windows so that in the event of disasters you have lost nothing...

SG[1]

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