Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

OCC "fortnight" #24 - no wonders

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • OCC "fortnight" #24 - no wonders

    Winston has sent me the 3700 BC save of his no wonders game, which will serve as OCC #24. Besides the usual OCC rules, the only wonder you are allowed to build is the Apollo Program. You are not allowed to build any other wonders in OCC #24.

    Download here. Original thread here.
    <font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Paul (edited March 06, 2001).]</font>

  • #2
    There is something very strange with this map. Look at where the wheat and the buffalo are located, this is not the normal pattern, and it's not on the meridian!

    ------------------
    If you have no feet, don't walk on fire
    A horse! A horse! Mingapulco for a horse! Someone must give chase to Brave Sir Robin and get those missing flags ...
    Project Lead of Might and Magic Tribute

    Comment


    • #3
      This is a randomly generated map, and I see no discrepancy here. Specials don't necessarily have to fit the pattern, as not all specials will be visible until terrain changes/transformations are performed.

      In this case you don't have enough information to determine if they fit the pattern. Besides, the city site wasn't chosen because of specials, rather to get as many river squares as possible.

      Comment


      • #4
        This was fairly tough.Only 2 specials.I had a heckuva time with tech choices.Especially when I wanted Superconductor.It was touch and go at the end as I came under heavy advanced weapon assault.Tanks,marines,fighters and bombers.It became a matter of survival so I launched without Fusion.Good thing as Japan built a max ship that would landed in 1982.I'm just happy to have made it.

        deity 2.42

        Arrival-1977ad


        Monarchy-1850bc
        Republic-325bc
        Democracy-1020ad


        Trade-875bc
        Construction-425bc
        Sanitation-320ad
        Refrigeration-1750ad
        Automobile-1864ad
        Computers-1898ad
        Space Flight-1914ad

        Apollo-1915

        1.425bc
        2.400bc
        3.375bc

        12-175bc
        21-1768ad(19 460ad)

        3550-contact Mongols-peace
        3450-Alphabet-trade Mongols for Burial-warrior
        3300-hut-100 gold
        3250-warrior
        3150-contact French-trade for Bronze Working-peace
        2950-Carths destroyed by barbs-hut 50 gold-
        2900-hut-supported chariot
        2800-hut 50 gold
        2550-Code of Laws
        2500-wheat>silk-hut 25
        2450-trade French for Currency
        2400-temple
        2300-hut non archer
        2150-contact Greeks-peace
        1950-hut-non horseman
        1900-Monarchy-revolt(at end of turn)-trade Greeks for Map Making-trade Mongols for Warrior Code-hut non horse
        1850-Govt-Monarchy-hut-Mysticism
        1800-trade French for Writing
        1750-library-
        1700-contact Japan-trade for Masonary and Horseback-alliance-share maps-receive 150-alliance with Greeks-share maps with Greeks and French
        1600-hut 25 gold
        1550-trade Japan for The Wheel
        1300-contact Persia-pay 50 for ceasefire-Japan gifts 25
        1250-Greeks gift 25-peace with Persia-French pay 50 tribute
        1100-market
        1050-japan gifts 25-Persia declares war
        950-we love the king-contact Aztecs-peace-trade for Pottery-share maps-diplomat
        900-hut-non archer-Greeks gift 50-pay Persia 50 for ceasefire
        875-Trade-granary
        850-bribe barb archer 61
        825-wine caravan
        800-size 5-end we love the king-trade French for Literacy-receive tribute 50-Japan gifts 100-Greeks cancel alliance
        775-hides caravan
        750-gems caravan-Aztecs tribute 50
        700-hides caravan
        675-gold caravan-Aztecs tribute 50
        625-size 6
        600-Japan gifts 50
        575-dye caravan-alliance with Mongols-receive 50-alliance with Greeks-Aztecs tribute 25
        550-bribe barb archer(non)61
        450-size 7
        425-Construction-wine to Orleans 50 bonus
        400-colliseum-hides to Orleans 50 bonus
        375-gems to Orleans(demanded) 150 bonus
        350-The Republi-revolt
        325-govt-Republic-trade french for Iron Working-Japan gifts 50-peace with Persia-Greeks gift 50-mongols 25
        300-”we love” size 7
        250-aquaduct-trade Japan for Poly-Greeks gift 50-Mongols 25
        200-coal caravan
        175-end “we love” 12-dye to Orleans 98 gold 98
        150-Philosophy>Banking-dye caravan-hides to Paris(demanded)172
        100-bank-trade French For Math-Aztecs gift 50-Greeks 50
        -----------------------
        AD1-Monotheism
        20-cathedral
        100-wine caravan
        140-Japan gifts 25
        200-Medicine-Japan gifts 25-alliance with Fraench-trade for Astronomy-receive 200-dye to Orleans 112 coal 112-Greeks gift 150
        220-trade Aztecs for Engineering
        260-Mongols cancel alliance
        320-Sanitation-(we love) 12-
        340-sewer system-Japan gifts 50-Greeks 50
        400-Japan gifts 100-Greeks 50
        460-diplomat-end “we love”19(no more food)
        500-bribe barb trireme(non) 82
        540-University-wine to Paris(demanded)274-bribe barb legion 82-Japan gifts 100
        560-build university
        580-barb leader 150-trade French for Seafaring
        620-Bridge Building
        640-city walls-Japan gifts 50-Greeks 100
        720-bribe barb horse 41
        740-wine caravan
        760-Economics-dye caravan-Japan gifts 50-French 25
        800-stock exchange
        900-Invention-trade Persia for Chemistry-Japan gifts 100-French 50
        920-wine to Osaka(demanded)217
        940-dye to Osaka 90
        960-French gift 50
        980-Democracy
        1000-revolt
        1020-govt-Democracy-trade Aztecs for Navigation-Greeks gift 200
        1060-gold caravan
        1080-dye caravan
        1120-Japan gifts 75-French 100-Greeks cancel alliance
        1140-Gunpowder
        1240-trade French for Physics-receive 50-Japan gifts 150
        1260-Explosives
        1280-engineer
        1300-bribe barb legion 82
        1320-engineer-gold to Tenochtitlan 127 dye 127
        1360-Magnetism
        1380-Japan gifts 100-French 100
        1400-gold caravan
        1440-dye caravan
        1480-Metallurgy-Japan gifts 150
        1520-French cancel alliance
        1550-Electricity-trade French for Steam Engine-trade Aztecs for Feudalism
        1560-Japan gifts 100
        1580-gold to Tlatelolco 117 dye 117
        1610-Railroad-Japan gifts 100
        1630-gold caravan-Japan gifts 100
        1650-barb leader 150
        1660-dye caravan
        1680-Gravity-trade French for Conscription
        1750-Refrigeration-ouch-gold to Tlatelolco 76 dye 76
        1752-Japan gifts 100-trade Aztecs for Chivalry
        1756-super market-”we love” 17
        1762-gold caravan
        1764-trade Aztecs for Industrialization and Theology(Darwin’s)
        1766-dye caravan
        1768-Leadership
        1772-Japan cancels alliance
        1776-end “we love” 25
        1786-wine caravan-The Corporation-gold to Tenochtitlan 88-dye to Tlatelolco(demanded)148
        1792-oil freight
        1798-Steel
        1802-wine to Sparta(demanded)75
        1810-”we love” 25
        1812-Refining-end “we love” 26-sell sewer-French Declare war-Japan declares war-trade Aztecs for Electronics
        1814-sell aquaduct
        1818-barracks-trade Aztecs for Tactics
        1822-alpine troop-oil to Persepolis 126
        1824-alpine troop-trade French for Atomic Theory-peace
        1826-trade Japan for Fundamentalism
        1828-Communism
        1846-Combustion-dam no Auto-bad game as far as tech choices go
        1850-dye freight
        1851-cloth freight
        1856-Flight
        1858-dye to Tlatelolco(demanded) 159
        1859-cloth to Texcoco(demanded)184
        1864-Automobile
        1865-superhighways
        1866-gold freight
        1867-cloth freight
        1870-Mass Production
        1874-Japan declares war-gold to Osaka 137
        1876-Radio
        1879-Greeks sneak attack-trade Aztecs for Mobile Warfare
        1880-barracks-peace with Greeks
        1882-armor-French declare war
        1884-Machine Tools-fighter
        1885-gold freight
        1886-cloth freight
        1892-Miniaturization-cloth to Kagoshima(demanded)265
        1893-gold to Tlatelolco 148
        1894-cloth freight
        1898-Computers
        1899-research lab
        1900-wine freight
        1904-Advanced Flight
        1906-war with Greece-raze nearby city
        1907-cloth to Kagoshima(demanded)265
        1909-Rocketry
        1912-gold to Persepolis(demanded)162
        1914-Space Flight-gold freight
        1915-Apollo
        1918-Japan declares war
        1920-Plastics
        1921-gold to Kagoshima 101
        1922-Japan sinks my trireme-tis a sad day
        1926-Nuclear Fission-French declare war
        1930-15 structurals ready
        1933-Nuclear Power
        1941-The Laser-steal Genetic Engineering form France
        1942-steal Espionage from France
        1947-steal Amphibious Warfare from France
        1951-Robotics
        1960-Superconductor
        1963-sell research lab
        1964-launch 21-5-5-1-1-1 no fusion-a matter of survival now-sell university
        65-sell library
        74-Japan launches max ship eta 1982
        1977-ARRIVAL AC
        The only thing that matters to me in a MP game is getting a good ally.Nothing else is as important.......Xin Yu

        Comment


        • #5
          Argh! You beat me by one measly year, Smash! Oh, did I mention this is a no Wonders, no Oedo-years challenge? I never go by the Oedo years in my games...

          I'll get my reconstructed log together Sunday or Monday and post it here for comparison.

          Comment


          • #6
            I tried this challenge but I failed. I lose to Mongol aggression. It's 1950, I have space flight discovered, got loads of food caravans but don't have time to build that ship.

            My strat was to give all techs to all as soon as I got them and doing that I gave Mongols superior military. They have conquered almost all other civs (!) and now they are attacking me from two fronts. Their howies kill even my fortified vet mech infs on hill fortresses. I have Carthagians as ally to my south who are trying to help me out but that's not enough. Each turn the Mongols hurl 4-10 armors/howies and now even bombers and my men are dying like flies. They have killed all my pollution-cleaning engineers so my city is suffocating of toxic waste. My farm lands are all poisoned and my once beautiful 30-sized metropoly is only 24 anymore Last turn one of their spies even poisoned my water supplies (first time AI has done that to me) and I conceded.

            There is one more thing: I was unlucky not to be able to build recurring trade caravans/freights (unlike Smash). So I ended up building tons of food caravans because I didn't had anything else to build.

            Altogether, this was an exiting game even when I didn't won. It was fun watching Mongols conquer first Japan and then French city by city and moving closer to my city. This is the first time I have witnessed an AI civ's successful conquest campaign against other AI civs, at least in modern time. Usually I'm supreme and they all ally against me but now I actually was good friends with Carths during the whole game and we are fighting against a mutual enemy.. it's fun for a change!

            Hmm.. now thinking of it I could give up the OCC challenge and start conquesting the Mongols in turn I have already destroyed a few of their cities they had build next to mine, but I could as well take them and let them take the blows. Meanwhile I could have peace in the capital to send reinforcements to those new border cities.. that could be fun too!

            Comment


            • #7
              quote:

              Originally posted by Marko_Polo on 03-13-2001 08:28 AM
              I tried this challenge but I failed. I lose to Mongol aggression. It's 1950, I have space flight discovered, got loads of food caravans but don't have time to build that ship.



              In my game (MGE) the Mongols never built a second city, and got obliterated by my one ally the Japanse two years before my spaceship landed in '72.

              The last time my citizens felt like producing a commodity was in 1770 ....
              On the bright side, Rome grew to size 33
              Log will follow later.


              ------------------
              If you have no feet, don't walk on fire
              A horse! A horse! Mingapulco for a horse! Someone must give chase to Brave Sir Robin and get those missing flags ...
              Project Lead of Might and Magic Tribute

              Comment


              • #8
                Thanks to Winston for a fun game.

                I was able to wheel and deal technologies and learn quickly with 5 long-lasting alliances and embassies everywhere, but as soon as I got space flight, I almost did not survive the onslaught while building my rocket, which arrived in 1930.

                Will post the log after it is typed up.

                ---------------------------------------

                OCC #24, no wonders except Apollo

                Deity 2.42

                Arrival - 1930 AD

                Republic - 925 BC
                Democracy - 1020 AD
                Fundamentalism - 1915 AD

                Construction - 950 BC
                Trade - 550 BC
                Sanitation - 420 AD
                Refrigeration - 1776 AD
                Automobile - 1828 AD
                Computers - 1858 AD
                Space Flight - 1889 AD

                Apollo - 1890 AD

                Route 1 - 300 BC
                Route 2 - 25 BC
                Route 3 - 40 AD

                Size 12 - 425 BC
                Size 21 - 1820 AD
                Size 31 - 1842 AD

                3550 Mongols: peace
                3500 Alphabet, Mongols: trade for Ceremonial Burial
                3150 French: war
                3000 settlers
                2900 Mysticism from hut
                2750 warrior, size 2, settler joins Rome, size 3
                2700 Code of Laws
                2650 wheat mined into silk
                2400 temple
                2300 hut: barbarians
                2250 barbarians kill horseman
                2050 Writing
                1650 library
                1500 Literacy
                1400 diplomat
                1350 Carthaginians: war
                1150 diplomat
                1100 Carthaginians: give tech, peace, alliance
                French: give tech, peace, alliance
                975 diplomat, Republic
                950 Japanese: war
                French: trade for Bronze Working, Currency, Construction, no gift
                Carthaginians: trade for Map Making, share maps, no gift
                925 government to Republic, horseman from hut
                Japanese: give tech, peace, alliance, trade for Horseback Riding
                900 WLTCD starts at 3
                875 hut: 50g
                825 hut: 50g
                French: give Map Making, trade maps
                800 colosseum, size 8, WLTCD stops
                Carthaginians: give tech, 25g gift
                French: trade for Masonry and Pottery, share maps
                775 Japanese: trade for Monarchy
                700 hut: Math
                650 Japanese: alliance vs. the Aztecs
                Carthaginians: trade for Warrior Code, 50g gift
                625 marketplace
                600 Aztecs: war, establish embassy
                550 Philosophy, Trade
                French: give tech
                Japanese: trade for Seafaring, 75g gift
                Carthaginians: give tech, 50g gift
                525 aqueduct, WLTCD starts at 8
                500 barbarian leader, 150g
                Mongols: war
                475 wine
                425 size 12, WLTCD stops
                400 gems
                375 Carthaginians: trade for Iron Working, give tech, share maps
                French: give tech
                325 gold, Japanese: give tech, share maps
                300 wine(d) to Edo, 140g
                250 dye
                225 French: give tech, share maps
                200 University, French: trade for The Wheel
                175 coal
                150 Carthaginians: give tech, 50g gift
                Japanese: give tech, 75g gift
                125 Mongols: peace, give tech, share maps, alliance
                100 university
                50 diplomat, Carthaginians: 50g gift
                25 gems(d) to Osaka, 336g

                AD years

                1 Bridge Building
                20 food
                40 gold to Rheims, 86g
                60 diplomat, Mongols: give tech, share maps
                French: give tech, share maps
                100 diplomat
                Japanese: trade for Polytheism, share maps, 75g gift, embassy established
                160 food, Medicine, dye(d) to Utica, 204g
                Mongols: give tech, share maps
                220 food, bribe barbarian legion and trireme in southern ocean
                hut: Astronomy
                260 Japanese: trade for Engineering, 150g gift
                French: trade for Banking, give them 50g
                Carthaginians: establish embassy, give tech, 50g gift
                280 bank
                300 Persians: war, Monotheism, coal to Kyoto, 164g
                320 cathedral
                340 hut: barbarians
                380 food, Aztecs: war
                420 Sanitation
                440 sewer system, WLTCD starts at 12
                520 wine
                540 WLTCD stops at 15, bribe barbarian legion
                Carthaginians: give tech, 100g gift
                620 Economics
                Carthaginians: trade for Theory of Gravity, 100g gift
                Japanese: give tech, 150g gift
                640 stock exchange
                Mongols: give tech, share maps, 100g gift
                660 wine(d) to Edo, 190g
                French: give tech, share maps, 50g gift
                bribe French phalanx
                680 French: establish embassy
                700 food
                720 Mongols: Invention as a gift
                740 diplomat, Chemistry
                760 gold, Japanese: trade for Feudalism, no gift
                820 food
                900 Democracy
                960 food, French: trade for Navigation, share maps, 25g gift
                Japanese: give tech, share maps, no gift
                Carthaginians: give tech, share maps, no gift
                Mongols: give tech, no gift
                Persians: peace, alliance, gold to Panoramus, 60g
                1000 revolution
                1020 food, government to Democracy
                1060 WLTPD starts at 15
                1080 gold
                1100 Chivalry, Carthaginians: trade for Physics, 50g gift
                Japanese: give Physics, 75g gift
                1120 food, WLTPD stops at 17
                1140 Persians trade for Gunpowder, share maps, no gift
                1160 food
                1180 food
                1200 Japanese: trade for Magnetism, give them 50g
                Mongols: establish embassy, give tech
                1220 food, Aztecs: war forever
                1280 food, Explosives, give it to the French
                1300 Persians: establish embassy
                French: give them Magnetism
                1320 engineers, Carthaginians: 100g gift
                1340 engineers, give Feudalism to French
                1380 food, Carthaginians: trade for Steam Engine, 150g gift
                French: give Steam Engine, 50g gift
                1420 Mongols: give Steam Engine, 100g gift
                1440 Atomic Theory
                1460 food, gold(d) to Caralis, 165g
                1500 diplomat
                1520 food, Japanese: trade for Metallurgy, 125g gift
                French: give them Metallurgy, 100g gift
                Persians: give them Metallurgy, 25g gift
                1540 give Magnetism to Persians
                1560 granary, Leadership, barbarian leader, 150g
                Carthaginians: trade for Railroad, give them 150g
                Persians: give them Railroad
                1570 bribe barbarian legion
                1580 food, WLTPD starts at 16
                French: trade for Conscription, give some tech
                Japanese: give Conscription, no gift
                1590 food
                1600 bribe barbarian crusader, give Railroad to Japanese
                1610 gold, barbarian leader, 150g
                Aztecs: refuse to talk, steal Industrialization
                Japanese: give them Industrialization
                Carthaginians: ditto, 200g gift
                Persians: ditto, 50g gift
                Mongols: ditto
                1620 wine, WLTPD stops at 19
                1640 engineers, Aztecs sink trireme and dragoon
                1650 Electricity, Persians: give tech, 50g gift
                1660 food, Carthaginians about to build Darwin’s
                1670 Carthaginians: trade for Communism and Fundamentalism
                Japanese: Give them Communism and Fundamentalism, 100g gift
                Mongols: ditto, 50g gift
                French: ditto, 100g gift
                1680 food, Persians: trade for Tactics
                Japanese: give them Tactics
                Carthaginians: ditto
                French: ditto, 100g gift
                1700 diplomat, Japanese: trade for Corporation, 200g gift
                French: give them Corporation, 100g gift
                Mongols: ditto, no gift
                1720 food
                1740 food
                1750 Espionage, Mongols: give tech, 50g gift
                1752 oil
                1756 food
                1758 gold(d) to Caralis, 120g, wine to Kyoto, 66g
                1760 food
                1764 engineers
                1766 spy, Steel, give it to Carthaginians
                Mongols: give Electricity, 50g gift
                1768 food, give Corporation to Carthaginians
                1772 food
                1776 food, Carthaginians: trade for Refrigeration
                1780 food
                1784 gold
                1788 gems, Refining, oil to Pasargade, 122g
                French: give Refining, 100g gift
                1792 hides, Persians: trade for Guerilla Warfare, no gift
                Carthaginians: give them Guerilla Warfare
                1794 French: give them 200g gift, hides to Tours, 34g
                1796 hides
                1800 hides
                1804 hides
                1806 Combustion, French: give them Combustion, no gift
                gold(d) to Osaka, 236g, gems to Kyoto, 96g
                1808 gold, Japanese: trade for Amphibious Warfare, 200g gift
                Mongols: give them Amphibious Warfare, 50g gift
                1810 French: trade for Electronics, give tech 25g gift
                Japanese: give Electronics
                1812 oil, 2 mountains now irrigated plains, WLTPD starts at 18,
                bribe 2 barbarian dragoons
                1816 supermarket
                1820 food, size 21
                1822 Carthaginians: trade for Machine Tools, no gift
                Persians: give Machine Tools, 200g gift
                Mongols: give Machine Tools, 100g gift
                1828 Automobile, Mongols destroyed by the French
                Japanese: give Automobile, 75g gift
                Carthaginians: ditto, no gift
                French: ditto, 50g gift
                gold(d) to Osaka, 264g
                1830 superhighways, oil to Kyoto, 208g
                1832 Japanese: trade for Mobile Warfare, pay demand for 400g
                Carthaginians: give them Mobile Warfare
                1834 food
                1836 food
                1840 Miniaturization
                French: give them Miniaturization, 50g gift
                Japanese: ditto, 150g gift
                1842 WLTPD stops at size 31
                1846 food, Persians: trade for Flight, 200g gift
                1848 dye
                1852 gold, Mass Production
                Persians: give Mass Production, 200g gift
                Japanese: ditto, no gift
                Carthaginians: ditto, no gift
                1853 mass transit
                1855 gems
                1858 Computers, Carthaginians: trade for Nuclear Fission
                1860 Persians: give Computers, 400g gift
                Carthaginians: give Theology
                Japanese: trade for Radio, 50g gift
                1861 factory, Persians destroyed by the Japanese
                1862 gold(d) to Osaka, 350g
                1863 hydro plant
                1864 city walls, Advanced Flight, dye(d) to Kyoto, 278g
                1865 gold, Aztecs destroyed by the Japanese
                Carthaginians: give Advanced Flight
                1866 barracks
                1867 food
                1868 food, French: give tech, 200g gift
                1869 food, Nuclear Power
                French: give Advanced Flight, 150g gift
                1870 food
                1871 food
                1872 food, French destroyed by the Carthaginians
                Rome is the only peanut left
                1873 food
                1874 food
                1875 food, Laser
                1876 food
                1877 food, Japanese: trade for Labor Union, give them 100g
                1878 food
                1879 food, Carthaginians: trade for Robotics, give them 100g
                1880 food
                1881 food
                1882 food, Rocketry
                1884 gold(d) to Malaca, 343g
                1885 manufacturing plant
                1887 SAM missile battery
                1888 mechanized infantry
                1889 mechanized infantry, Space Flight
                1890 Apollo Program
                1891 S#1, Japanese cancel alliance,
                gems(d) to Tenochtitlan, 474g
                1892 S#2, Carthaginians at war with the Japanese
                1893 S#3
                1894 S#4, give Space Flight to Carthaginians
                1895 S#5
                1896 S#6, Plastics
                1897 C#1, sneak attack by Japanese, 2 engineers killed
                Carthaginians to our aid
                1898 C#2
                1899 C#3
                1900 C#4
                1901 C#5
                1902 C#6
                1903 S#7
                1904 S#8,
                1905 S#9, Superconductor
                1906 M#1
                1907 M#2
                1908 M#3
                1909 S#10, Carthaginians end alliance
                1910 S#11
                1911 S#12, sneak attack by Carthaginians, bribe howitzer
                1912 S#13
                1913 S#14, Carthaginians have Fusion Power
                1914 S#15, revolution
                1915 Spy, government to Fundamentalism,
                bribe Carthaginian howitzer, steal Fusion Power,
                Launch 15-3-3-1-1-1
                1916 mechanized infantry
                1917 mechanized infantry
                1918 mechanized infantry
                1919 engineers
                1920 engineers, bribe 2 Japanese howitzers
                1921 bribe Carthaginian mechanized infantry
                1922 mechanized infantry, engineer killed
                1923 engineers
                1924 mechanized infantry
                1925 engineers
                1926 mechanized infantry, engineer killed
                1927 engineers, Carthaginians: peace, give Genetic Engineering
                1928 engineers
                1929 mechanized infantry, sell manufacturing plant
                1930 Arrival on Alpha Centauri
                [This message has been edited by solo (edited March 15, 2001).]

                Comment


                • #9
                  OCC Succession Game
                  Deity
                  MGE

                  *No human wonders except Apollo*

                  Guess you all thought my landing was in 1972

                  ================================================== ==============
                  AC: 1872

                  Monarchy: -2650
                  Republic: -825
                  Democracy: 220

                  Apollo: 1816

                  Trade routes: -1000, -825, -750

                  Size 12: -725
                  Size 19: 20
                  Size 33: 1808

                  Trade: -1850
                  Construction: -1400
                  Sanitation: -200
                  Refrigeration: 1200

                  Automobile: 1750
                  Computers: 1772
                  Space Flight: 1814
                  ============================================
                  -3700 Rome already founded, no techs - switching to working plains
                  -3650 Working Buffalo
                  -3600 N-Chariot(h)
                  -3450 Alphabet, Horsemen(h)
                  -3400 Mongols, Peace, traded for Ceremonial Burial (they also have Bronze Working)
                  -3300 Code of Laws(h), 50(h) - switching to Monarchy
                  -3150 Starting to mine the wheat
                  -3050 Settlers, Barb Leader!! (150)
                  -3000 Temple, S2, 50
                  -2950 Archers(h)
                  -2800 Chariot(h)
                  -2750 Wheat into Silk
                  -2700 French, Peace
                  -2650 Monarchy, MONARCHY, traded for Currency and Bronze Working(F), French ask for alliance!! - we accept
                  ----- 2 techs->F, 3 techs->M - we refuse Warrior Code, Settlers join Rome -> S3, Pottery(h)
                  -2500 MarketPlace
                  -2450 Carthagians, traded for Horseback Riding, Peace, 5 techs->C, no Ally , no tribute
                  -2250 Barb Archers
                  -2200 Map Making(h)
                  -2050 Granary, N-Chariot(h), Barb Chariot
                  -2000 S4, Barb Leader (150), Barb Chariot
                  -1900 Japanese, traded for Mysticism, 5 techs->J, no Ally , 100<-J
                  -1850 Persians, traded for Iron Working, Masonry and Warrior Code, Peace, 2 techs->P, no Ally , 200<-P
                  ----- Traded for Trade (F), 7 techs->M, Maps, 50 , 6 techs->C, 25
                  -1800 City Walls
                  -1750 S5
                  -1700 Hides
                  -1600 Silk, Aztecs, traded for Writing, Peace, 8 techs->Az, Maps, 100 , 7 techs->F, Maps
                  -1500 Library, S6
                  -1400 Hides, traded for Construction (C), 50
                  -1350 50(h)
                  -1300 Colosseum, 6 techs->J, Maps, 25
                  -1250 2 techs->M
                  -1200 Hides, Literacy
                  -1150 1 tech->C,M,F, 25 <-F , Persians: "Mathematics"
                  -1100 Wine
                  -1000 Hides to Carthage (d,100)
                  -950 Gold, S8
                  -875 Gems, sold City Walls, Mongols sneak-attack, they lose Archers
                  -850 1 tech->Az, 50 , Barb Legion
                  -825 Aqueduct, The Republic, REPUBLIC, Silk to Orleans (d,205), M Warriors
                  -800 S9, We Love , di Archers
                  -775 Diplomat, Philosophy -> Banking, S10, di Horsemen, traded for Mathematics(P), Peace(M), 6,4,4 techs->P,C,M, Maps, Barb Legion
                  -750 Bank, S11, Barb Leader (150), Hides to Kyoto (114)
                  -725 S12, Traded for Seafaring(F), 4 techs->F, Maps, 50
                  -700 Coal, We Love ends , 6 techs->J, Maps
                  -650 Barb Legion
                  -625 Diplomat
                  -600 Medicine, 1 tech->F, 100
                  -550 Diplomat
                  -525 Gold to Kyoto (138)
                  -475 Diplomat, 2 techs->C,M
                  -450 University, Wine to Paris (d,204), Gems to Kyoto (138)
                  -425 University, Embassy(F)
                  -400 The Wheel, br Barb Chariot, 3 techs->J, Maps, 2 techs->F,C,M
                  -375 Wine, Barb Chariot, br Barb Horsemen, Barb Leader (150), di Chariot
                  -350 Barb Chariot, Hides to Persepolis (d,320)
                  -325 Diplomat, Engineering, br Barb Horsemen, traded for Polytheism(A), 8 techs->A, Maps, 2 techs->C,M
                  -275 Coal to Kyoto (138)
                  -250 Gems
                  -225 Embassy(J), di Horsemen
                  -200 Sanitation
                  -175 Diplomat
                  -150 We Love
                  -125 Sewer System, S13, Monotheism(h) , di Chariot
                  -100 Cathedral, S14
                  -75 S15, Embassy(P)
                  -50 S16
                  -25 S17, Embassy(M)
                  1 Food, S18
                  20 Economics, S19, traded for Feudalism(J), 6,4 techs->F,J,M, Maps, 4 techs->C, 100<-F
                  40 We Love ends , traded for Astronomy(P), 9 techs->P, Maps
                  60 Embassy(C), Wine to Osaka (d,390)
                  100 Stock Exchange, Invention, di Horsemen
                  120 Gold
                  160 Wine, Aztecs: GREAT LIBRARY
                  180 2 techs->F, Maps, 2 techs->C
                  220 Democracy, DEMOCRACY, 1 tech->F, 100
                  240 Food
                  280 Dipomat, 1 tech->C
                  300 French: PYRAMIDS
                  340 Food, Chemistry
                  400 Food, Gems to Persepolis (100), Barb Legion
                  420 2 techs->P, Ally , Maps
                  440 Gunpowder, traded for Bridge Building(J), 4 techs->J, Maps, traded for Navigation(F),
                  ----- 2 techs->F, 7 techs->M, Maps, Gold to Malaca (d,123)
                  480 Food
                  540 Explosives
                  560 Engineers -> S18, Wine to Osaka (d,195), Barb Legion, 5 techs->C, Maps, 2,1 techs->P,M
                  580 We Love
                  600 Engineers
                  620 We Love ends
                  660 Metallurgy, 1 tech->C,M, 2 techs->F, 100
                  680 Food
                  700 Barb Crusader
                  720 Desert into Plains
                  740 2 Barb Crusaders
                  760 Gold
                  780 Br Barb Archers, barb Archers, barb Elephant, 2 techs->P
                  800 Wine, Theology, traded for Physics(P), 1 tech->P, 200 , 2 techs->Az,C,M Barb Archers
                  820 Desert into Plains, di Archers
                  840 Japanese declare war, J Explorers, Barb Elephant, 1 tech->F, 100
                  860 Food
                  880 Aztecs: LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP
                  940 Food, Magnetism, Barb Elephant, 1 tech->F, 100
                  980 1 tech->P, 150
                  1000 Diplomat
                  1020 Hills into plains
                  1040 Gold to Malaca (d,189)
                  1060 Diplomat, traded for Steam Engine(F), French end alliance , br Barb->N Knights, Barb Leader (150)
                  ----- traded for Chivalry(M), 3 techs->C, Maps
                  1100 Electricity, We Love , Gold to Malaca (d,195)
                  1120 Engineers, Wine to Kyoto (102)
                  1140 We Love ends
                  1160 Gold
                  1180 Barb Elephant, br Aztec->N Engineers (244), Barb Knights
                  1200 Refrigeration, We Love
                  1220 Supermarket, S19, Barb Elephant, hills into plains
                  1240 We Love ends , Barb Elephant, traded for Conscription(A), 1 tech->Az, 3 techs->C,M
                  ----- Peace(J), 9 techs->J, Maps, 1 tech->P, 75
                  1260 1 tech->P, 50 , br French->N Engineers (240)
                  1280 1 tech->P, 75
                  1300 Food, Embassy(A), 4 techs->F, Maps
                  1320 Sold Granary, 1 tech->P, 150
                  1340 Railroad, br Barb->N Knights, 1 tech->P, 150 , br French->N Engineers (224), Barb Knights
                  1360 We Love
                  1380 Cloth, S20, hills into plains, 1 tech->C,M
                  1400 S21
                  1420 S22
                  1440 S23
                  1460 Gems, S24
                  1480 S25
                  1500 Industrialization, S26
                  1510 Food, French: COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY
                  1520 S27
                  1530 S28, Barb Crusaders, 1 tech->C,M
                  1540 Food, S29, Persians: COLOSSUS
                  1550 We Love ends , 1 tech->P, 25
                  1570 Food, The Corporation, Barb Leader (150), 1 tech->P, 50 , traded for Leadership(F)
                  1580 Gold to Persepolis (d,318), 4 techs->J, Maps, 2 techs->M
                  1590 Factory
                  1610 Food, Electronics, 1 tech->P, 100 , 1 tech->M, 4 techs->A, Maps
                  1650 550<-P for War(A)
                  1660 Hydroplant, Steel, traded for Tactics(J), 1 tech->J, 1 tech->P, traded for Refining(P)
                  1670 Gems to Edo (d,254), mountain into hills
                  1680 Dye, Cloth to Persepolis (106)
                  1700 Coal
                  1710 A Cannon, A Dragoons, Dye to Kyoto (d,218), br French->N Engineers (292), br French->N Engineers (276)
                  1720 Oil, Carthagians: SUN TZU'S WAR ACADEMY
                  1730 Barb Musketeers
                  1740 Food
                  1750 Automobile, 8,5 techs->F,M, Maps
                  1752 Superhighways, 5 techs->Az, Cease Fire, Maps, Coal to Persepolis (d,772)
                  1754 Mass Production, We Love , hills into plains, plains/r into grassland(s)/r
                  1756 Food, S30
                  1758 We Love ends , Oil to Persepolis (318), 1 tech->M,Az,F, 4 techs->J, Maps, Ally, 50 , 3 techs->P
                  1760 Machine Tools, mountain into hills, 1 tech->Machine Tools(P), 250->P for Theory of Gravity, 1 tech->M
                  ----- Persians: DARWIN'S VOYAGE, they get Atomic Theory and Miniaturization
                  1764 Gold, steal Atomic Theory(P) -> "Minor incident" , grassland/r into hills/r
                  1768 Nuclear Fission, di Engineers, traded for Mobile Warfare(M), 3 techs->M
                  ----- traded for Miniaturization(P), 1 tech->P, 14 techs->C (finally not hostile anymore!), Maps
                  1770 Wine, we love , 4 techs->A, Gold to Persepolis (d,880), hills/r mined
                  1772 Computers, S31, Gems to Edo (d,756), 1 tech->P, 75 , 7,5 techs->J,F, Maps, Wine to Edo (252)
                  ----- Aztecs: Statue of Liberty, Carthagians demand 1000 -> War, C Knights
                  1774 Research Lab, Robotics, We Love ends , C Knights
                  1776 Plains into Grassland(s)
                  1778 Manufacturing Plant
                  1780 Food, We Love , hills into plains
                  1782 Food, Flight, S32, traded for Fundamentalism(M), Japanese: MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL
                  1784 Food, We Love ends , plains into grassland(s), completed railroad to Osaka
                  1786 Food, bribed Carthagian->N Armor (780) , Carthagians: MAGELLAN'S EXPEDITION
                  1788 Food
                  1790 Radio, grassland/r into hills/r
                  1792 Food
                  1794 Food, plains/r into grassland/r, hills/r mined, grassland/r into hills/r, br Carthagian Armor (812)
                  ----- Peace(C), 3,8 techs->C,F, Maps, 3 techs->A,M, 1 tech->J,P 100,300
                  1796 Food
                  1798 Food, Advanced Flight, hills/r mined -> 80 shields
                  1800 City Walls, di 2 Engineers, Japanese: J.S. BACH'S CATHEDRAL
                  1802 Airport
                  1804 Carthagians: ADAM SMITH'S TRADING CO.
                  1806 Rocketry, We Love , traded for Communism(P), 1 tech->P, Aztecs: SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE
                  1808 S33, sold Sewer System, 2 barb Riflemen
                  1810 We Love ends , barb Leader (150), sold Aqueduct
                  1814 Space Flight
                  1816 APOLLO PROGRAM, Japanese: HOOVER DAM
                  1818 S#01
                  1820 S#02
                  1822 S#03, traded for Nuclear Power(J), 1 tech->J, French: SETI PROGRAM
                  1824 S#04, Plastics, Japanese: WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE
                  1826 S#05, traded Spaceflight for Genetic Engineering(F)
                  1828 S#06
                  1830 S#07
                  1832 S#08, 8,7,7,5 techs->M,A,C,F, Maps, 5 techs->P, Maps, 700 , br French->N Armor (528)
                  1834 S#09, The Laser
                  1836 S#10
                  1838 S#11
                  1840 S#12
                  1842 S#13, Superconductor, traded for Amphibious Warfare(J), 1 tech->J, 100
                  1844 S#14, traded for Espionage(P), 1 tech->P, persians end alliance , 4 techs->M, Maps
                  1846 S#15, 1 tech->J, 100 , Carthagians: UNITED NATIONS
                  1848 C#01, 1 tech->J, 150 , 4 techs->C, Maps, 4 techs->F
                  1850 C#02, 1 tech->J, 100
                  1851 C#03, Fusion Power, 4 techs->A, Peace(A)
                  1852 C#04, traded for Recycling(F), traded for Combined Arms(C), 1 tech->C
                  ----- traded for Guerilla Warfare(J), 1 tech->J, 100
                  1853 C#05
                  1854 C#06, br Barb->N Partisans, barb Partisans
                  1855 M#01, barb Cavalry
                  1856 M#02, br Carthagian Spy, barb Partisans, barb Cavalry, Carthagians: CURE FOR CANCER
                  1857 M#03, Environmentalism, LAUNCH 15-3-3-1-1-1, br Barb->N Partisans, di N-Horsemen, di N-Knights
                  ----- 5,5,3 techs->M,J,A, Maps, 3,2 techs->F,C, 1 tech->J, 100 , Aztecs: ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE
                  1858 SDI Defence, di N-Knights, French: C#01
                  1859 SAM Missile Battery, barb Partisans, di 2 N-Chariots, Japanese: C#01-02, French: C#02
                  1860 Solar Plant, sold Hydroplant, Japanese: C#03
                  1861 Japanese: C#04, Carthagians: C#01-02
                  1862 Future Tech 1, Carthagians: C#03-04
                  1863 Aztecs: C#01, Mongols: C#01
                  1864 Aztecs: C#02
                  1865 Japanese: M#01-02, C#05-06
                  1866 Armor, French: C#03-04, Carthagians: M#01, barb Cavalry
                  1867 Howitzer, Future Tech 2, let Carthagians declare war, we kill 3 Howitzers, 2 Armor, 1 Marines , Japanese: C#07-08
                  1868 Fighter, C Marines, C Helicopter, Mongols: C#02
                  1869 Fighter, Carthagians: C#05
                  1870 Fighter, Mongols destroyed by Japanese, Carthagians: C#06
                  1871 Fighter, Japanese: M#03, C#09-10, Carthagians: M#02, C#07-08
                  1872 ALPHA CENTAURI

                  Score: 191 (24%) (Balthazar the Glutton

                  ------------------
                  If you have no feet, don't walk on fire
                  A horse! A horse! Mingapulco for a horse! Someone must give chase to Brave Sir Robin and get those missing flags ...
                  Project Lead of Might and Magic Tribute

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Ribannah - Your note about commodities was too obvious a clue. As usual, nice game and a great result!

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I just downloaded the file... going to look at it tomorrow.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Hmm, I haven't been able to muster the energy to reconstruct a game log from the saves I have, like I promised to do earlier. Sorry about that.

                        Starting a new game seemed infinitely more appealing than running through the old one just for making a log. But next time I play a comparison game, I'll remember to log the progress of the game 'in real time'.

                        I'm glad everyone seemed to like the game, and hat's off to the ones who once again were able to push the boundary back quite a bit in terms of landing dates.

                        Incidentally, I now find it very fun and challenging to play various premade, historical maps with this special OCC variety: No wonders, found Rome exactly at the starting square - and in 4,000 b.c., and don't declare war on the AI. This makes for a different game entirely than the traditional OCC, as you have a lot more time (and eventually gold)on your hands due to the slowed down research rate. So the obvious thing to do is bribe as many AI units as you possibly can and set up parameters of units in between AI civs and around their cities. And make the most of the 2 continent trading strategy.

                        I'm currently playing this way on the standard world map (small) and it's the most fun I've had in months!

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Not thinking too much throughout most of this . Only got Monarchy after about 20 techs. Mongols got killed once, the Indians twice and had some troubles at the end after the Japanese got reincarnated as the Babylonians next to me . Nice for easy trade though . Had to use a lot of resources to defend myself from the Babylonians at the end. They declared war just after I had started to build my spaceship. After they killed all my N-Engineers I had big pollution problems . Amazing how differently games can turn out from the same start.

                          A shot of the finish.
                          Deity 2.42

                          Arrival-1962ad

                          Monarchy -125
                          Republic 460
                          Democracy 1764

                          Apollo 1914

                          Route 1 -725
                          Route 2 -700
                          Route 3 -500


                          Trade -925 63
                          Construction -875 65
                          Sanitation 1160 158
                          Refrigeration 1846 248
                          Automobile 1869 269
                          Computers 1892 292
                          Space Flight 1913 313
                          Landing 1962 362

                          Size 12 540
                          Size 21 1897 (size 19 in 1380)

                          Trade Routes 4631g
                          Tribute 4850g
                          Barb Leaders 300g
                          Huts 50g

                          -----------------------------

                          -3700 Game start
                          -3450 Alphabet. Warrior.
                          -3250 Warrior. Barbs (h). Warrior kld.
                          -3100 Warrior.
                          -3000 Ceremonial Burial. Peace with Mongols. Exchange for Horseback Riding.
                          -2950 Japanese destroyed by barbs. Archers (h)
                          -2800 Bronze Working (h). Horseman.
                          -2750 Currency (h).
                          -2500 Map Making (h). Techs -> M.
                          -2250 N-Chariot (h).
                          -2150 N-Legion (h). Disband Archers.
                          -2000 Temple. Exchange for Code of Laws and Writing with Babylonians, give tech, maps, alliance.
                          -1950 Techs -> M.
                          -1850 N-Legion kld by Barbs.
                          -1650 Polytheism (h)
                          -1500 N-Elephant (h).
                          -1450 Barb Leader 150g.
                          -1400 Library.
                          -1350 Exchange for Iron Working, Masonry and Warrior Code with persians, peace. Techs -> B, 50g.
                          -1300 Marketplace.
                          -1150 All tech -> M, maps.
                          -1050 Diplomat. Embassy with B. Exchange with Aztecs for Mysticism and Pottery, peace, maps.
                          -1000 Techs -> Carthaginians, maps, alliance, 50g.
                          -925 Trade (h)
                          -900 Dye Caravan. 50g (h). 50g A.
                          -875 Trade for Construction with B, 25g.
                          -850 Hides Caravan.
                          -725 Gems Caravan. Trade for Mathematics with P, maps. Dye -> Babylon 44g.
                          -700 Literacy. Hides -> Babylon 44g.
                          -675 Disband Warrior.
                          -650 Disband Horseman.
                          -600 50g C.
                          -575 Colloseum.
                          -500 Gems -> Babylon 24g.
                          -425 Wine Caravan.
                          -400 Techs -> B, 25g. Techs -> C, 50g.
                          -300 Tech -> B, 50g. Techs -> C. Techs -> A, maps.
                          -225 Wine -> Babylon 64g.
                          -150 Philosophy -> Monarchy. Revolution. Trade for Seafaring with B. Techs -> French, maps, alliance, 100g.
                          -125 Monarchy established. Aquaduct.
                          -75 Dye Caravan. Techs -> F, A, P maps alliance 50g, C 50g, M - maps.
                          1 Dye -> Ur, 28g.
                          20 M destroyed by P.
                          60 Diplomat.
                          160 Coal Caravan.
                          220 Diplomat. Disbnd Warrior.
                          300 Coal -> Babylon 36g.
                          340 Gold Caravan.
                          360 C maps, 50g, embassy. Indians destroyed by Babylonians.
                          380 Techs -> Indians, maps, alliance. Diplomat.
                          440 Republic. Revolution. Embassy with I.
                          460 Republic established.
                          480 Start WLTCD size 9. Gold -> Babylon 50g. Trade for Astronomy with B.
                          500 Coal Caravan.
                          540 End WLTCD size 12.
                          560 Trade with P for The Wheel, give tech, 75g. Trade with B for Navigation, 25g.
                          Techs -> C. Techs -> I, maps.
                          600 Coal -> Babylon 33g.
                          640 Wine Caravan.
                          680 Diplomat.
                          720 P 150g. Trade for Bridge building with A, give tech. Techs -> F, 50g.
                          760 Wine -> Babylon 82g.
                          780 University.
                          800 Trade for Monotheism with B, Coal Caravan.
                          860 University built.
                          900 Cathedral.
                          920 Coal -> Babylon 40g.
                          940 Wine Caravan.
                          960 B maps. Tech -> C. Tech -> P 25g. Tech -> F.
                          980 Trade for Engineering with P, give tech, 25g. Tech -> C.
                          1020 Medicine. Tech -> B. Wine -> Babylon 110g.
                          1060 Coal Caravan.
                          1140 Coal -> Babylon 48g.
                          1160 Sanitation. Trade for Physics with B. Techs -> I.
                          1180 Wine Caravan. Tech -> P, 100g.
                          1220 25g B.
                          1240 Sewer System. WLTCD starts size 12. Wine -> Babylon 122g.
                          1280 Gold Caravan. 50g B.
                          1320 Coal Caravan. Gold -> Babylon 165g.
                          1360 Banking. Wine Caravan.
                          1380 Coal -> Babylon 57g. WLTCD ends size 19. Techs -> I, 50g. Tech -> P, 50g. Tech -> C.
                          1400 Bank.
                          1420 Wine -> Babylon 142g.
                          1440 Dye Caravan.
                          1480 Coal Caravan.
                          1500 Chemistry. Trade for Invention with B. Dye -> Babylon 57g. Tech -> C. Trade for Feudalism with Persians, give tech, 50g.
                          1510 Wine Caravan.
                          1520 Coal -> Babylon 57g.
                          1530 Dye Caravan.
                          1540 Wine -> Babylon 227g.
                          1560 Economics. Trade for Steam Engine with B, 50g. Dye -> Babylon 96g. Techs -> I.
                          1590 Stock Exchange.
                          1610 Dye Caravan.
                          1620 N-Settler and N-Elephant kld by barbs.
                          1630 Democracy. Gold Caravan.
                          1640 Barb Leader 150g. Gold -> Nineveh 93g.
                          1650 Diplomat.
                          1660 Dye -> Babylon 182g.
                          1690 Magnetism.
                          1710 Trade for Railroad with B, 50g.
                          1720 Bribe N-Settlers 452g. Trade for Gunpowder with C, give tech.
                          1754 Dye Caravan.
                          1756 Metallurgy.
                          1758 Trade for Industrialisation with B.
                          1760 Gold -> Nineveh 70g.
                          1762 Remember to revolt.
                          1764 Democracy. Dye -> Babylon 122g.
                          1766 Tech -> P, 25g. B 50g.
                          1772 Explosives.
                          1774 Trade for Conscription with B, 50g. Techs -> I, maps, 100g. Techs -> C, alliance dissolved. Techs -> A, maps.
                          1776 Trade for Chivalry with P, 50g.
                          1786 Dye Caravan.
                          1788 Electricity.
                          1790 Wine Caravan. Tech -> C.
                          1794 Oil Caravan. Dye -> Babylon 124g.
                          1798 Diplomat. Wine -> Babylon 62g. Tech -> A, maps.
                          1802 Trade for Theory of Gravity with B, gift Communism. Oil -> Babylon 62g.
                          1804 Leadership.
                          1806 Bribe A Engineers 344g.
                          1810 Trade for The Corporation with A, give tech, maps.
                          1812 Tech -> P, 50g. Tech -> I, 50g. Techs -> F, alliance dissolved.
                          1814 Bribed A Engineers 356g.
                          1822 Factory.
                          1826 Tactics. Wine Freight.
                          1830 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ur 178g. Wine -> Babylon 93g. A declare war.
                          1836 City Walls. Bribe A Engineer 344g.
                          1838 Embassy A, tech peace.
                          1844 Persians have built an airbase before flight has even been discovered :confused!
                          1846 Refrigeration. Tech -> A, trade for Electronics, maps, alliance.
                          1850 Trade with A for Refining.
                          1851 Hydro Plant.
                          1853 Supermarket.
                          1854 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 186g. Tech -> P, 100g.
                          1855 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ur 182g.
                          1858 Steel.
                          1862 Trade for Combustion with B, maps.
                          1866 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 188g.
                          1867 Dye Freight. Dye -> Babylon 188g.
                          1868 Oil Freight. Oil -> Babylon 93g.
                          1869 Automobile.
                          1871 Superhighways.
                          1881 Machine Tools. Trade for Mass Production with B. Techs -> I, C, P 100g, A 200g, F alliance 100g.
                          1882 Wine Freight. 200g A.
                          1883 Oil Freight. Wine -> Babylon 370g. Oil -> Ashur 283g.
                          1884 200g A, 100g P.
                          1885 Miniaturisation.
                          1892 Flight. Trade with B for Computers.
                          1893 Research Lab. Trade for Atomic Theory with P, 100g.
                          1894 Already have 80 shields without Manufacturing plant.
                          1897 Size 21.
                          1898 Oil Freight. Radio. Oil -> Ashur 291g.
                          1899 Oil Freight. Oil -> Ashur 291g.
                          1900 Wine Frieght. Wine -> Ashur 212g.
                          1901 Airport.
                          1902 Advanced Flight.
                          1907 Rocketry. Trade for Mobile Warfare with P, 100g.
                          1908 Barracks.
                          1910 SAM Missile Battery.
                          1911 B gift Theology.
                          1912 B gift Guerilla Warfare.
                          1913 Buy Space Flight for 750g from B.
                          1914 Apollo Program.
                          1915 Struct #1. Nuclear Fission. Space Flight -> P, 100g. Techs -> A, 200g.
                          1916 Struct #2. Babylonians cancel alliance.
                          1917 Struct #3.
                          1918 Struct #4. Tech -> P, 100g. Techs -> C. Bribe N-Alpine 460g from B.
                          1919 Struct #5. Techs -> C.
                          1920 Struct #6. B declare war.
                          1921 Armour. I destroyed by C. Steal Plastics from B. Trade with A for Combined Arms,
                          Tech -> A, 200g. P give 850g for war with C.
                          1922 Fighter.
                          1923 Diplomat. Steal Superconductor from B.
                          1924 Struct #7.
                          1925 Struct #8. Nuclear Power. 2 N-Engineers kld :mad. Trade with P for Robotics give Tech, 100g.
                          1926 Struct #9. Techs -> A.
                          1927 Howitzer. N-Engineer kld :mad.
                          1928-33 Struct #10-15.
                          1929 N-Horseman kld.
                          1934 Armour.
                          1935 Howitzer. N-Alpine kld.
                          1936 Spy. B peace. Tech -> P, 100g. Trade for Fusion Power with A, dissolve alliance.
                          1937 Tech -> P, 100g.
                          1937-42 Component #1-6.
                          1942 Trade for Fundamentalism with P, alliance dissolved.
                          1943 Module #1.
                          1945 Module #2. Disband N-Chariot and Howitzer.
                          1947 Module #3. Launch (estimated arrival 1962). Pollution and a stolen square => starved down to pop 18 from 25.
                          1949 P declares war.
                          1951 Manufacturing Plant. Armour kld by P.
                          1952 Howitzer.
                          1953 Labour Union. B sneak attack. N-Settler kld by B :mad.
                          1954-62 Mech Infs/Fighter/Howitzers/ Armours. Spy Captured.
                          1958 B launch eta 1963 .
                          1962 Arrive at AC.

                          Civ Rating 13%
                          "One day your life is going to flash before your eyes, make sure it is worth watching."

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            3500 BC Mongols: peace
                            3450 BC Alphabet
                            Warrior
                            3250 BC Warrior
                            3100 BC Warrior
                            3000 BC Code of Laws
                            Mongols: trade Ceremonial Burial
                            2950 BC French: peace; trade Currency
                            2700 BC Hut: 25 gold
                            2300 BC Hut: 50 gold
                            2250 BC Marketplace
                            2050 BC Writing
                            Hut: Horseback Riding
                            1850 BC Carthaginians: peace; trade Bronze Working
                            1800 BC Mongols: war
                            1750 BC Library
                            French: war
                            Mongols: peace
                            1550 BC Hut: Archer
                            1350 BC Temple
                            1250 BC Literacy
                            1150 BC Hut: Archer
                            1000 BC Carthaginians: alliance; gift 200 gold
                            French: trade Masonry; they give 100 gold for peace
                            950 BC Hut: Legion
                            825 BC Hut: Map Making
                            Carthaginians: share maps
                            800 BC Japanese: alliance; share maps; gift 200 gold
                            675 BC Republic
                            Japanese: trade Warrior Code
                            French: alliance; share maps
                            Mongols: trade Iron Working
                            625 BC Gov: Republic
                            600 BC Persians: peace; trade Wheel; share maps
                            475 BC French: trade Construction; gift 25 gold
                            japanese: gift 25 gold
                            450 BC Colosseum
                            Start WLTCD, size 4
                            425 BC Carthaginians: gift 150 gold
                            400 BC Carthaginians: gift Mysticism
                            350 BC Aztecs: peace; share maps
                            325 BC Aqueduct
                            250 BC End WLTCD, size 12
                            200 BC Trade
                            175 BC Build Dye Caravan
                            100 BC Build Gems Caravan
                            75 BC Build Gold Caravan
                            40 AD Banking
                            140 AD Bank
                            160 AD French: trade Bridge Building, Monarchy; cancel alliance
                            Japanese: trade Polytheism; cancel alliance
                            Aztecs: trade Pottery, Seafaring
                            Persians: trade Mathematics
                            Carthaginians: trade Engineering; gift 100 gold
                            440 AD Build Coal Caravan
                            460 AD Philosophy, Medicine
                            Dye to Tenochtitlan (demanded): 392 gold
                            Gems to Susa (demanded): 392 gold
                            480 AD Sanitation
                            Start WLTCD, size 12
                            500 AD Sewer System
                            520 AD Gold to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 224 gold
                            End WLTCD, size 13
                            620 AD Monotheism
                            640 AD Cathedral
                            Start WLTCD, size 13
                            Aztecs: trade Astronomy
                            Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
                            760 AD End WLTCD, size 19
                            780 AD Build Wine Caravan
                            820 AD University
                            840 AD University
                            1020 AD French: trade Feudalism
                            Aztecs: trade Navigation
                            1040 AD Coal to Tenochtitlan (demanded): 312 gold
                            1060 AD Invention
                            1180 AD Theology
                            Start WLTCD, size 19
                            Wine to Paris (not demanded): 64 gold
                            1220 AD End WLTCD, size 20
                            1300 AD Democracy
                            1320 AD Aztecs: trade Physics
                            1340 AD Gov: Democracy
                            1400 AD Build Wine Caravan
                            1440 AD Gunpowder
                            1480 AD Build Wool Caravan
                            1530 AD Magnetism
                            Aztecs: trade Economics
                            Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
                            1540 AD Stock Exchange
                            1600 AD Explosives
                            1610 AD Engineer
                            1620 AD Engineer
                            1630 AD Carthaginians: gift 200 gold
                            1660 AD Metallurgy
                            Aztecs: trade Steam Engine
                            1730 AD Electricity
                            1750 AD Aztecs: trade Railroad
                            Carthaginians: trade Conscription; gift 200 gold
                            1754 AD Wine to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 89 gold
                            1756 AD Build Dye Caravan
                            1760 AD Refrigeration
                            1762 AD Supermarket
                            1764 AD Wool to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 89 gold
                            1770 AD Carthaginians: gift 150 gold
                            1774 AD Chivalry
                            Start WLTPD, size 18
                            1790 AD Industrialization
                            Persians: alliance; gift 200 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
                            1798 AD End WLTPD, size 28
                            1804 AD Corporation
                            1816 AD Refining
                            Dye to Pasargadae (demanded): 168 gold
                            Japanese: trade Leadership
                            Persians: gift 100 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
                            1818 AD Build Wine Freight
                            1822 AD Wine to Rheims (demanded): 105 gold
                            1824 AD Build Oil Freight
                            1826 AD Combustion
                            Persians: trade Steel; gift 200 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
                            Aztecs: trade Electronics
                            1838 AD Automobile
                            1840 AD Superhighways
                            1848 AD Mass Production
                            French: trade Tactics; alliance; gift 200 gold
                            Persians: gift 75 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
                            Sell Sewer System
                            1851 AD Mass Transit
                            Sell Aqueduct
                            Oil to Tenochtitlan (not demanded): 252 gold
                            1853 AD Build Coal Freight
                            Machine Tools
                            Aztecs: trade Theory of Gravity
                            1857 AD Power Plant
                            1858 AD Miniaturization
                            Coal to Carthage (demanded): 452 gold
                            1859 AD Build Dye Caravan
                            1860 AD Build Cloth Caravan
                            Aztecs: trade Mobile Warfare
                            French: gift 75 gold
                            Persians: gift 200 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
                            1862 AD Computers
                            1863 AD Research Lab
                            1864 AD Cloth to Carthage (not demanded): 181 gold
                            1865 AD Build Gold Caravan
                            1866 AD Build Oil Freight
                            Robotics
                            French: trade Atomic Theory; gift 200 gold
                            Persians: gift 150 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
                            1867 AD French: gift 150 gold
                            Persians: gift 50 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 50 gold
                            1868 AD French: gift 100 gold
                            Persians: gift 50 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 150 gold
                            1870 AD Flight
                            Dye to Tlaxcala (demanded): 302 gold
                            1872 AD Persians: gift 100 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 150 gold
                            1873 AD Manufacturing Plant
                            1874 AD Radio
                            1876 AD Oil to Tlaxcala (demanded): 528 gold
                            1877 AD Advanced Flight
                            Aztecs: trade Communism
                            1878 AD Gold to Persepolis (demanded): 468 gold
                            1881 AD Rocketry
                            1886 AD Space Flight
                            1887 AD Apollo Program
                            1891 AD Plastics
                            1892 AD French: gift 150 gold
                            Persians: gift 50 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
                            1896 AD Nuclear Fission
                            1900 AD French: gift 150 gold
                            1901 AD Nuclear Power
                            Persians: gift 50 gold
                            Carthaginians: gift 100 gold
                            1907 AD Laser
                            1909 AD Build Gold Freight
                            1910 AD Build Oil Freight
                            1912 AD Aztecs: trade Genetic Engineering
                            1914 AD Superconductor
                            1915 AD Gold to Kagoshima (demanded): 318 gold
                            1916 AD Oil to Carthage (not demanded): 104 gold
                            1918 AD Fusion Power
                            Launch
                            1933 AD Alpha Centauri

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              It took some time , but I finally made the comparison table for this game.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X