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    Once you reached the max of workers and specialists, every subsequent citizen becomes an entertainer, but do those entertainers actually produce luxuries, I remember a month ago noticing that I had a size 42 city in communism, maxed workers and specialists and I had 0% luxuries, the screen showed entertainers but no luxuries were being produced. Is this normal or is something wrong with me?
    I'm 49% Apathetic, 23% Indifferent, 46% Redundant, 26% Repetative and 45% Mathetically Deficient.

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    The King has left the building

    When you set Lux to 0% you won't get any added benefit from more elvii. Change it to 10% and you'll see a difference.

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    • #3
      Entertainers WILL add luxuries to the city even when luxury rate is set to zero. Citizens beyond the 36th have no effect except to eat food. They are shown and treated as elvii in the unhappiness screen and process (they are "neutral," neither happy or angry) but are not changeable nor do they add anything to the city but bodies.

      Original corrected due to posting below.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Blaupanzer
        Citizens beyond the 21st have no effect except to eat food.
        Each city can accomodate a maximum of 16 non-elvis specialists. Together with 20 workers, this means that the effective maximum size of a city is 36 heads. Any heads above 36 are shown as elvises but don't actually do anything productive. Think of them as spare entertainers.
        After all, you can only watch so many Tommy Cooper shows a day!

        By the way, the correct Latin plural of "elvis" is "elves", whereas the plural of "elf" is, of course, "tweeëntwintig".
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ribannah
          By the way, the correct Latin plural of "elvis" is "elves", whereas the plural of "elf" is, of course, "tweeëntwintig".
          ...en als er dan drie zijn? 22 is toch maar een elf echtpaar.
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          • #6
            In France, 22 is what some people say when they see a cop approaching (but I guess Elves, those with Elvish eyes, don't care about that at all)


            (this guy is La Fayette, discovering that 11*2 = 22)
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            • #7
              off topic !!!

              now we are way off topic .. but what the hell is 22 to do with a cop ???
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              • #8
                Re: off topic !!!

                Originally posted by Rasputin
                now we are way off topic .. but what the hell is 22 to do with a cop ???
                'vingt deux, v'la les flics' ('v'la' is short for 'voilà')
                the translation of that readymade phrase is exactly: 'twenty two, here are the cops'
                Why 22? I don't know, but I shall check and I let you know if I find something.
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                • #9
                  22 - two little ducks (quack, quack)

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                  • #10
                    continuing the OT

                    well here in the US, we refer to cops sometimes a "5-0's". That is to be read as... five o's (Five Oh's). I'm not sure why that is either...

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                    • #11
                      Ah, FMK, you belie your youth! Five-O is spelling out the number 50 - after all, in the US few people actually say "zero." This was popularized by an old teevee show called Hawaii 5-0 about, imagine that, a cop in bikinibabeville. IIRC, the number itself is just a department call number for our swanky hero detective. I was young when this aired, anybody who knows better please correct my memory!

                      And this is now back on topic, as the original thread asked about entertainers. If Hawaii 5-0 isn't entertainment, what is?
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                      The gift of speech is given to many,
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                      • #12
                        Marquis - I always thought the "Five oh" came from Hawaii being the 50th state.

                        Completely off-topic observation: Hawaii Five-oh also gave the world the phrase "Book 'em, Dan-oh"!

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                        • #13
                          During the days of the flappers (F. Scott Fitzgerald era) there was a saying "22 skidoo." No, I don't know where THAT 22 came from.
                          If you can not think of a good reason to build something other than a caravan, build a caravan!

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                          • #14
                            You might be able to find out the origin of 22 by going to

                            and posting a question there. That's my favorite site for finding the answers to questions like that.
                            -HOWITZER AL-
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                            While others rejoice that He put roses among the thorns.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jpk
                              During the days of the flappers (F. Scott Fitzgerald era) there was a saying "22 skidoo." No, I don't know where THAT 22 came from.
                              The saying actually was "23 skidoo." I don't know any more about it than that, but you'll hear it in really old movies (30's era).
                              No matter where you go, there you are. - Buckaroo Banzai
                              "I played it [Civilization] for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD." Iain Banks, author

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