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    In a OCC Diety game I just finished, I was not able to get to Alpha Centauri before the year 2020, but just wanted to see if I would before the AI did.
    As I kept researching and building freights, the AI Vikings kept going in and out of war with my Romans. Fortunately, I held a fortressed mountain and a fortressed hill between them and me, with Alpine, Mech Inf, and Armor, along with a couple of howitzers.
    When I had finally rush built the last module needed and sent the Launch command, the AI began a multiple attack each turn in an attempt to get to my city of Rome.
    Since I had finished the Space Ship, I was able to build some Mech, Armor, and Howitzers to replace those finally defeated even in the hardened hill fortresses. In addition, I did construct SDI defense and a SAM battery, along with a few stealth fighters.

    Before the Launch, I had a total of 7 casualties during the entire 6000+ years. At the arrival date, I had total casualties of 32 units, and was still in place with 3 MI, 1 Armor, 3 Stealth fighters.

    However, the AI Vikings has thrown units at my Fortresses, and at the City (via bombers, and stealth bombers) in the following manner.

    Marines --- 117
    Cavalry --- 143
    Armor ----- 61
    Cannon ---- 50
    Artillery - 132
    Bombers --- 20
    Stlth Bmbr- 25
    Helicopter- 14

    Boy, when they get organized, they have a ton of units to use. And it seemed like there was no end in sight.

    Moral. Beware when you Launch. The other uncivilized nations will send everything they have against you to beat you up. You had better be ready with strong defenders, city walls, SDI, SAMs and choke points fortified and double and triple manned.

    Before you criticize your enemy, walk a mile in his shoes. Then if he gets really angry at your criticism, you are a mile away, and he is barefoot.

  • #2
    hehehe...good thing it can't fight very well.That is a problem with having ais get somewhat modern.At deity the ai gets a tiny sheild box compared to yours and with factories...etc it can send a ton of units.But I guess you found that out.Isn't it fun to watch the slaughter as ai unit after ai unit perishes against a strategic location?
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    The only thing that matters to me in a MP game is getting a good ally.Nothing else is as important.......Xin Yu

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    • #3
      I believe that one of the AI's cheats is that they can rushbuild very cheaply.
      In one game playing at king level (ToT fantasy), I was killing the only unit defending a city, turn after turn, around the ear 200 AD. My AI opponent rushbuilt a new unit every turn to defend the city. The AI tribe had a net income of only 18, but after five turns of losing rushbuilt units, its money reserves had dropped by about 90. If I had rushbuilt the same units, they would have cost me well over 500.

      - toby


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      • #4
        The AI had stealth?? Wow, I don't think I've ever seen that...

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        • #5
          quote:

          <font size=1>Originally posted by crowatbitemedotcom on 02-10-2000 04:41 PM</font>
          The AI had stealth?? Wow, I don't think I've ever seen that...




          so... what are you saying? your so darn good you've never seen the AI with stealth?? here we go again...


          [This message has been edited by My Wife Hates CIV (edited February 10, 2000).]

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          • #6
            I was simply saying I've never seen the AI with stealth. Nothing more, nothing less. I've also never seen the AI with an aircraft carrier.

            Crow
            AH has shrink shop open, and if you want advice from an Aussie who thinks he's a horse that likes having a gay Greek general riding his backside then that's still available. - Lancer

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            • #7
              I feel the need to support Crow on this, I too have never seen the AI use either stealth or carrier (in recent memory, at least).

              And it has nothing to do with his signature (pleased though I am )

              Graag

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              • #8
                Well the ai will use stealth bombers and fighters a lot if they get it. I was dumb enough to let them build up after I knew they were closing in on stealth. From now on, I hammer them before they can get robotics.

                They must of had 20 stealth bombers and 50 stealth fighters. Even my onslought of 40 or 50 howitzers was being decimated. First time I had ever struggled with an howitzer onslaught. I declared war too late.

                [This message has been edited by Black Bart (edited February 10, 2000).]

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                • #9
                  dp
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                  • #10
                    i wish the ai would go all out in an attack.... just once i would like to see 60 + units drop by for some fresh bread in the morning..... wait i did last night incompetant ai lol .... sorry My friend i couldn't resist the urge.....

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                    • #11
                      Oh comne on! The AI can have all the techs and will not use carriers. If the AI has stealth it will (every game it can) build fighters and bombers.

                      So, your saying you've never lost against the AI on any level. You've never seen a stealth fighter or bomber being used by the AI. You've never re-started any games.... I find that hard to believe.

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                      • #12
                        MWHC.... is that adressed to me???? i have seen howitzers from the ai..... just play on a large archipelagro (spelling) map small land and you can see howies or bombers and such..... its challenging
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                        • #13
                          Hey, if I'm gonna give up on a game I usually do it before I get that far, just because mmgmt makes it no fun once you know you can't regain the lead. OCC I usually play out simply because managing one city isn't difficult.

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                          • #14
                            MWHC - Dude. I never said I never lost to the AI. I never said I never restarted a game. All I said was that I've never seen the AI with stealth. They've nuked the crap out of me in 1930AD. They've wiped out my civ with elephants in 2500BC. They've obliterated me with knights in 1000AD. I'm sure that if they have the tech they will build them, but I have yet to see an AI stealth fighter.

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                            • #15
                              Myself also. I never actually 'lose' a game before stealth, but I often tire of games if they aren't fun so I don't play through untill stealth. However, this is usually when I set myself some sort of challenge on a map I have designed, I can honestly say I have never, when playing bloodlust on a normal large map at diety never seen stealth in recent memory. This probably has more to do with how little I play that type of game anymore, I play MP and OCC almost exclusively now, not to do with me being some great Civver (I know there are many people better than me in SP, MP and OCC).

                              Graag

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                              You should never smoke in pyjamas, you could start a fire and burn your face
                              I have discovered that China and Spain are really one and the same country, and it's only ignorance that leads people to believe they are two seperate nations. If you don't belive me try writing 'Spain' and you'll end up writing 'China'."
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