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    I was wondering what you all thought about the governments in civ2 and which ones you used (in default situations as well as special situations) I myself prefered republic untill about a week ago, now I say that communism is the best all-around gov, and the vet spies aspect is just too cool for bringing down those mega cities with walls, costal fortress, sam bat etc. What do you all think?
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  • #2
    I think that democracy is the best. With Mike and Bach at you disposal you can fight skirmishes, then provided you get the UN and Sufferage there is nothing to stop you fighting like a fundamentalist. If you don't get the UN, you have to be sure to get the Statue of Liberty so you can switch governments quickly, declare war and switch back again. Also, with democracy you get so much trade you can afford a generous luxury rate and still make as much money/ beakers as a communist. That what I think anyway. It should be noted though that I'm not great at bloodlust, more of an ACer myself...
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    • #3
      I saw "Braveheart". Thought you were pretty bloody effective with the old biffo, my friend.

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      • #4
        We rocked back in the day. Its so true, . I watched it Brooklyn after a year away from home and I got pretty involved with it all ... that said I watched it subsequently and the historical inacuracies are pretty awful.

        On the bright side though I gave a pound to a guy collecting for MA'M, the anti monarchist pressure group, today

        My wee sister got back from Oz yesterday.
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        • #5
          with "happy" wonder-Democracy

          Without(almost always)-pea pickin Communism

          I've had some pretty good Monarchys also..
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          • #6
            Democratic Fundamentalists Rule!

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            • #7
              Hamish - we trust your wee sister returned in the same untarnished condition she left.

              Just as long as she stayed well clear of Rasputin.

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              • #8
                I prefer communism, if war; fundamentalism.
                Democracy ? Not so often, but if happyness wonders, like Michel's chapel, then yes.

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                • #9
                  I don´t like Democracy mainly for one reason. I always see myself forced to disband most of my martial law units. What a waste! But even after that production seems to run slower than before.
                  How do you help out with that? Do you disband? Do you use Leo´s before disbanding?

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                  • #10
                    Democracy rules!
                    Because of the science output of course and your cities are unbribable

                    You have, however, to choose the right moment to change to it (after you built your key wonders). The production isn't too good in an undeveloped city.
                    Except when the need arises to eliminate a rival, I stay in it for the rest of the game.
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                    • #11
                      The production penalties in democracy are more than made up for once you have size 20 to 30 cities (by celebrating; much faster than waiting for natural growth, even with the pyramids). A few of those new citizens can work shield squares too. And with the economic potential of monarchy you can easily make up for the lower production compared to what you would have in communism. Of course celebrating in democracy to grow, and then using the SL to switch to communism, raising luxuries high enough to celebrate under communism, and then lowering them back down to the minimum to keep celebrating is also an option.
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                      • #12
                        For an very long while, it was Fundamentalism. By the time I changed to it I was usually leading in science anyway, plus I dropped my tax rate and luxury rates right down to get my science rate up a bit. As of late though I've tried to avoid it in favour of some of the others. Right now I'm happy with Republic, although I intend to give Democracy a bit of a whirl.

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                        • #13
                          Well, I dunno. She went out there as she had a boyfriend in the Australian Navy...

                          Still they split up more or less instantly

                          Then she spent the next year touring around the outback as part of a travelling wrestling/ circus troupe. I suppose thats what an Oxford education does for you.
                          PS you'll find my name is John, not Hamish, Bruce. Though my middle is Lachlan, so that may be Scottish enough for you.
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                          • #14
                            Democracy is my preferred govt for the trade. The only drawback is you can't get tribute. I like to form as many alliances as I can for gifts, but there are always a couple holdouts who won't join an alliance. When I discover espionage I will switch to Communism to build an army of vet spies; at the same time I can bully my non-allies for tribute for a while.

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                            • #15
                              I remember the first time I play civ2 i had no idea what governments are and stayed in despotism.

                              Anyway, if you've got every tech (ie you are reasearching future tech), go with Fundamentalism. Apart from research, Fundamentalism is a perfect government. Also if the Great Library hasn't expired yet, go woth Fundamentalism.

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