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**Hydey** · May 17, 2003, 07:47

no-one has posted they can't make it

**Hydey** · May 17, 2003, 09:53

lol @ makeo

after dropping and returning after missing a turn Makeo said " I think I survive"
a minute later he said "AHh **** , no I won't, it changed production from settlers and carravans to graineries in nearly all my cities"

Yes we did restart but did not go back far enough to fix the problem so Makeo just soldiered on like a true champ.

**Makeo** · May 17, 2003, 10:51

yeah but now if i lose this is why and if i win its because of my brilliant play.

**Hydey** · May 17, 2003, 10:57

You know that no-one ever loses on this forum as it is always hut luck and not counted as a loss.

If you win its skill.

**Makeo** · May 17, 2003, 11:02

plus i'm in the desert and i have to help deity along so thats a bit of a handicap, and the ai is picking on me as well. and some schmuck to my north built a city right next to some of my fortified units and i just know he is going to get all uppity about them being there when he didn't have to build right next to them.

**Hydey** · May 17, 2003, 11:09

So you and Deity are planning to gang up on poor old Horse again.

**Makeo** · May 17, 2003, 11:15

i'm actually working with horse to take deity down from the inside. you don't think i'd really cooperate with deity do you?

**Hydey** · May 17, 2003, 11:18

Thats ok then, please continue

**deity** · May 18, 2003, 00:44

I think we should go back that last half hour so that Makeo is back to normal. We should have restarted straight away at that point as advised.

It seems to me that when a player gets screwed on a turn we always stop and restart so why did we stuff around so long last night? Only to end up with a save that was no good anyway???

I have a few saves. I'll send them to Makeo and see if one of them is near the point he dropped...

**deity** · May 18, 2003, 01:04

Hmm, I don't think my saves are any good.
I have one at 11.31pm and 11:35. Then it's back to 10:35pm.

**Alexander's Horse** · May 18, 2003, 01:16

You can't help yourself can you

**deity** · May 18, 2003, 01:26

I try to be fair

**Hydey** · May 18, 2003, 06:05

Perhaps Deity should host all games in the future as he seems to be better at it than any of us.

OOPS sorry forgot he can't host , he can only be a critic of those who can and do.

**deity** · May 18, 2003, 07:16

Was just trying to be helpful

Makeo contacted me on Messenger so I presumed his icq was down for the moment. He said he couldn't get in and he could see his civ playing itself. I simply passed on the message to Horse.

Horse kept on saying to hang on a moment. He was clearly not on the ball and not listening....

It's OK to screw up Horsie but if you'd listened to your civ colleagues you would have found help, support and enlightenment

**Alexander's Horse** · May 18, 2003, 07:25

Originally posted by deity
Was just trying to be helpful

It would be more helpful if you just shut up like everyone else and let the host work on the problems that arise with those they are affecting.

You of all people should just shut up because you never host. You have no idea what's involved. Most of the time I ignore you. It saves a lot of time.

But now that we know you booze up while playing it all starts to make more sense.

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