Iron Curtain Pbem #1

[academia]

Que bueno, no me perdi nada

[yaroslav]

Academia' s post means:

'Good, I din't lose anything!'

BTW, we need a player to play Pap's civilization.. Or are we going to wait for him?

Also, Darius, please reply to my points about URSS in America...

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by yaroslav
BTW, we need a player to play Pap's civilization.. Or are we going to wait for him?

Pap his having a problem with his hard drive. I talked to him last weeke and he did not know when he would have it back.

I suggest our fearless leader of this thread (Academia)will need to make the decision to replace or wait.

[academia]

Personally, i´d like to wait for Pap. I don´t wanna change the leader of NATO again

In my opinion, Yaroslav should play NATO´s turn.
USA and NATO are allies, so i think he could take command of all the capitalists pigs forces for one turn.
What do you think?

[conmcb25]

Thats fine by me!

Yaro are you up for it it is back to back turns, so it shouldn't be too bad.

[yaroslav]

Real World Note:

Ok, I've played the turn as a NATO player, but I don't know with details what the plots of Pap were, so I haven't do too much. For example, I don't know whether Pap want to conquest Spain or not (I will do, but I'm a Spaniard and I would love to reign over Spain ). I only had move the units to the placements I think are better for NATO and blocked some seas. I ask all players to not attack NATO, because it will be unfair: the civ has nearly a 'blank' turn

Fictional World Note:

We, the intereign NATO government PLENTY SUPPORT the USA politicy (), and also ask Rusian government for retire of Central/South America ()

We refer all civs to ask our leader, USA, any doubt you would have

The intereign (USA puppet) government

[yaroslav]

And again, I forget to attach the file.

I feel shamed

[El León]

With tears in their eyes, Korean families separated by the war were finally reunited as victorious North Korean/Chinese Red Army forces marched into downtown Seoul.
Overjoyed citizens celebrated the exit of the last American troops as Chairman Kim, new president of the People's Republic of Korea addressed the country:
"Today we have insured that the Korean people will face the challenges of history as we always had: as one people."
Chairman El Leon sent his congratulations to the Korean people from Beijing, but reminded Asians that the American threat was still a reality. Showing pictures of children burnt by napalm, and civilian women and children massacred by US bombings, El Leon said "this is not a war. This is a massacre - is a terrible crime against humanity that we cannot let pass." He promised immediate aerial support to the Vietnamese people. Questioned about land troops, El Leon was clear: "There are not, and there will not be any Chinese soldiers in Vietnam. Our airforce will cease their action when US bombers withdraw from Vietnam."

[conmcb25]

SEATO MOVE

SEATO MOVE

[academia]

* Some rebels killed in Addis Abeba and Shiraz
* Missile tests made in Cairo

[Darius871]

- Afghanistan has been annexed in its entirety, apparently to the chagrin of Pakistani troops apparently poised to march there after our bombers had done all the work.

NATO:

What gives you the right to completely blockade the Baltic with no reason stated or ultimatum delivered? Both the Kattegat Strait and the Kiel Canal are blocked by NATO warships. As you almost certainly know this region is our most crucial corridor for international trade, and is important enough for us to sink your ships if you do not cease and desist, or at least attempt to negotiate!



USA:

Originally posted by yaroslav
USSR:

Monroe doctrine forces us to say it only one time: get out of America! We'll figth any russian movement in our backdoor!

Well you should feel perfectly comfortable then since the troops are CUBAN, not Russian. They're even using Cuban-made armaments! The cities may technically fly our flag due to the inadequate Civ2 engine, but all we are doing is 'extending influence'. Your actions in Mexico show America's complete hypocrisy.

This is an important thing to understand about this scenario: capturing a city doesn't necessarily mean militarily conquering it, but something like propping up an autonomous puppet regime, which we all know both the U.S. and the USSR did as often as we change our underwear.

If you don't want us to assist our socialist brethren in Latin America then you'd better get there first! We will not sit idly by and watch the Americans crush an entire hemisphere under the bootheels of right-wing lapdog dictators.

[academia]

We had a problem with game.txt file versions in the CFC Iron Curtain PBEM #2
Just to be sure, everybody MUST download this file. ok?
For more info about the "problem", go here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?postid=734136#post734136

NEW GAME.TXT FILE

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by Darius871
- Afghanistan has been annexed in its entirety, apparently to the chagrin of Pakistani troops apparently poised to march there after our bombers had done all the work.

NATO:

What gives you the right to completely blockade the Baltic with no reason stated or ultimatum delivered? Both the Kattegat Strait and the Kiel Canal are blocked by NATO warships. As you almost certainly know this region is our most crucial corridor for international trade, and is important enough for us to sink your ships if you do not cease and desist, or at least attempt to negotiate!

Sorry, I was moving the NATO, and did it without intention... Don't blame the NATO for that. I hope you can deal with Pop the next turn

USA:

Well you should feel perfectly comfortable then since the troops are CUBAN, not Russian. They're even using Cuban-made armaments! The cities may technically fly our flag due to the inadequate Civ2 engine, but all we are doing is 'extending influence'. Your actions in Mexico show America's complete hypocrisy.

This is an important thing to understand about this scenario: capturing a city doesn't necessarily mean militarily conquering it, but something like propping up an autonomous puppet regime, which we all know both the U.S. and the USSR did as often as we change our underwear.

If you don't want us to assist our socialist brethren in Latin America then you'd better get there first! We will not sit idly by and watch the Americans crush an entire hemisphere under the bootheels of right-wing lapdog dictators.

We had intervined in Mexico after you conquered the city on Central America. This is our last installment: swear to not expand more in America, retire from the city and don't install misiles in Cuba. This way, we'll left Cuba untouched. If you don't retire, we'd need to intervine. Can we agree on limited war on America?

[yaroslav]

BTW, I would wait for your response before move...

[Darius871]

Originally posted by yaroslav

We had intervined in Mexico after you conquered the city on Central America. This is our last installment: swear to not expand more in America, retire from the city and don't install misiles in Cuba. This way, we'll left Cuba untouched. If you don't retire, we'd need to intervine. Can we agree on limited war on America?

This is wrong on SO many levels. For one it wasn't 'us', meaning the USSR, it was Cuba and Cuba alone. Castro did not even ask us for approval although we probably would have given it to him.

Secondly, for the LAST time, Cuba didn't 'conquer' any city just like you didn't 'conquer' Mexico. Genghis Khan taking China was 'conquest'; Adolf Hitler launching a blitzkrieg on France was 'conquest'. What we did in Belize was active military support of one side in a civil war, and if I hear the word 'conquer' again I'm going to puke. Not to mention that YOU have been these subversive measures in Latin America for decades. Hypocrisy!

Thirdly, the hypocrisy's even more blatant since you've been playing in our 'backyard' for years as well. Hell, you've even invaded us before! We would NEVER whine like little babies if you were to make moves in Central Asia. And we aren't whining one bit about your nuclear missiles in Europe and Turkey.

And finally, you will notice that there are NO nuclear weapons in Cuba or Honduras, and there never will be. We reached an agreement during the Cuban Missile Crisis and we will stick by it.

Honduras will not be surrendered to a capitalist puppet government, and other underground movements in Latin America could be pushed to success at any time in the future. Any attack on our allies in Latin America or Cuba will be an attack on the USSR. Period. If you want to start World War III over a pathetic patch of jungle so be it; history will remember that you were responsible!!!