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    Name: Field Marshal Klesh
    Date caught: November 24th, 2002
    Link: The Struggle for Europe PBEM
    Comments: He admits to willingly playing his turns multiple times to guarentee the best results. He can be seen kicking arse all about the Ostfront. Though an evildoer at heart, he promises not to do it again.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh
    Name: Field Marshal Klesh
    Date caught: November 24th, 2002
    Link: The Struggle for Europe PBEM
    Comments: He admits to willingly playing his turns multiple times to guarentee the best results. He can be seen kicking arse all about the Ostfront. Though an evildoer at heart, he promises not to do it again.
    I don't actually think this can be classified as cheating; its part of the way a pbem works. Having a day or whatever to play your turn in gives you the chance to try out a number of things to see what will work best, and theres really no way anyone can stop you from doing this. The situation is kind of like in postal chess; theres nothing stopping you from getting out a book on master chess and using it to help; its part of the way the game is played.

    The only reason I never do what FMK did is because I'm too lazy to sit and play one turn over and over again to get the best of all possible results

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    • #3
      For God's sake man you didn't have to put yourself on the list, at least for a debatable issue like this. All I meant was that we shouldn't do it from now on, not that anyone that has (apparently a lot more people than I had imagined) is a cheater.
      Unbelievable!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Case
        Thunderfall says that he's also a DL of 'The Palladin'. He's now been perma-baned on CFC.
        I wonder if the Overlord is someone here..........

        Makes you wonder dont it?
        *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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        • #5
          Originally posted by conmcb25


          I wonder if the Overlord is someone here..........

          Makes you wonder dont it?
          Ahh, paranoia. The handmaiden of blacklists.
          Tecumseh's Village, Home of Fine Civilization Scenarios

          www.tecumseh.150m.com

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          • #6
            Er how do you prove someone cheated in a PBEM game?
            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
              Er how do you prove someone cheated in a PBEM game?
              You get a neutral individual to look at their saves, and check whether everything is normal. If not [ie, cities ar strangely remaining out of disorder, or vast numbers of units are appearing out of nowhere] and the player concerned can't explain themselves, then they're cheating.

              Originally posted by techumseh
              Ahh, paranoia. The handmaiden of blacklists.
              I think that it's time for a good old-fashioned witch hunt
              'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
              - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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              • #8
                That means that someone could reveal the map or change diplomatic situations between enemies without it being able to be proved.
                "Long live Iraq. Long live Jihad. Long live Palestine. God is great, God is great." - President Saddam Hussein

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                • #9
                  Artifically changing diplomatic situations would be extreamly easy to detect.
                  'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
                  - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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                  • #10
                    What is the point in passwords?
                    "Long live Iraq. Long live Jihad. Long live Palestine. God is great, God is great." - President Saddam Hussein

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                    • #11
                      I was thinking more about the suitcase nuke scenario.
                      Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                      Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Choke
                        What is the point in passwords?
                        They make it harder for people to look at your saves, and prevent honest players from accidently loading your turns (don't laugh - I often load the civ in the same position on the 'chose your civ' list as in the last PBEM game I loaded )
                        'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
                        - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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                        • #13
                          Oh, ok because it's so easy to bypass them that I wondered.
                          "Long live Iraq. Long live Jihad. Long live Palestine. God is great, God is great." - President Saddam Hussein

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                          • #14
                            Its not really that easy to bypass. It is, but it is also very easy to see when passwords have been bypassed by others.

                            -FMK.

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                            • #15
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                              Last edited by Choke; November 29, 2002, 23:07.
                              "Long live Iraq. Long live Jihad. Long live Palestine. God is great, God is great." - President Saddam Hussein

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