But how does cheating have any influence on whether or not they make a contribution to the forum in other areas? Also if we have a public list, then it's much more adaptable to the needs and if the cheater wants a second chance it can happen. If nobody wants them to play, then they won't. But if you outright ban them, then you leaving no room for compromises. And also it brings up the point if it isn't exactly proven the person cheated or it was under questionable circumstances? Then the player is screwed. Leave it in the hands of the users in general and not to site staff.
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Second the ANZACOriginally posted by The ANZAC
But how does cheating have any influence on whether or not they make a contribution to the forum in other areas? Also if we have a public list, then it's much more adaptable to the needs and if the cheater wants a second chance it can happen. If nobody wants them to play, then they won't. But if you outright ban them, then you leaving no room for compromises. And also it brings up the point if it isn't exactly proven the person cheated or it was under questionable circumstances? Then the player is screwed. Leave it in the hands of the users in general and not to site staff.*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta
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Ditto DariusOriginally posted by Darius871
So is someone going to set up a thread or what?*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta
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I believe you may be showing a lack of wisdom here. There is a time and a place for everything and the way to deal with this type of issue in a forum like this one where we have so many differing opionions is to compromise. I dont necessarily like it but it can and it will work in this situation.Originally posted by Choke
"if you outright ban them, then you leaving no room for compromises."
Compromises are for fools and weaklings.
I personnaly would like to execute cheaters but we all know that isnt going to happen, but the Anzacz way and Cases way is a good compromise that will do a lot to control cheating from happening.
Again just my opinion but it seems like you maybe in the minority here.
I say set up a thread, and inform the users of this forum who they are and where they did it, let them make there own judgement*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta
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I dont think you should look at it this way, this has been a healthy discussion and maybe, just maybe we will do something about cheating. It may not be exactly what Choke WANTS but it maybe just what everyone who uses this forum NEEDS. And that is progress. I hate comprising probally more than you do or at least as much, but in this case you brought up a good topic to discuss and hopefully we as a community can now do something about it. You did a great job, we agree with you something must be done, its just we feel there might be a better solution. Lets focus on where we agree OK?Originally posted by Choke
It's obvious I'm in the minority here and I wish I hadn't made this thread...
*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta
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I jsut had a long AIM discussion with one of my PBEM buddies and it is possible there maybe a cheater in a few PBEM's Im in. Well it sucks, we need to do something about it so you brought up a great topic to discuss Choke, really!
*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta
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Choke: No need to feel cornered; this is a healthy discussion and hopefully a warning thread will be made.
So, who's willing to setup the Pillary Thread?
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No need to edit your posts Choke, you weren't out of line.
Editing posts is for fools and weaklings.
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OK, I have to ask this. What exactly is defined as cheating in PBEM games? I assume editing rules.txt in ones favor and prehaps cracking people's passwords.
But what about something like if you take your turn and you launch a series of stupid attacks and other moves and near the end of the turn you decide to just reload from the beginning and do things different? Is that considered cheating?
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I would consider that cheating, but how is it going to be proven? I dont know!Originally posted by MagyarCrusader
OK, I have to ask this. What exactly is defined as cheating in PBEM games? I assume editing rules.txt in ones favor and prehaps cracking people's passwords.
But what about something like if you take your turn and you launch a series of stupid attacks and other moves and near the end of the turn you decide to just reload from the beginning and do things different? Is that considered cheating?
*"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta
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That would be impossible to prove, unless the guy who did it tells anyone about it or has an uncanning knowledge of his enemy's defences.Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.
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