PBEMguide

[Henrik]

Ignore the name of the file he posted that's just a bug in the forums, load it as a save file and try it out (if necesary change filetype/creator so that civ will recognice it, it should be able to annyway though...) it should work.
As for your game I really cannot tell what it is you did wrong I cannot load the file myself, Yaroslav seems to have found what was wrong with the file, but why I have no idea.

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by Xyvyr
I can load that original file I attached and play it just fine...

But have you try to download the file from here and play it?

Anyway, you file have a text like that:

..PBEMtest1.net................................... ...............Cv2NCiv2...................<...<.....mBIN.....................

[where .. means not printable character]

This text incluides both the name of the file and a 'Civ2' string. I don't how why you get this text before the file, but you must delete it in order to load it in a PC (and in a MAC, as Henrik told us).

Is Civ2 MGE 1.1 the last version avaliable for MAC?
Have you some antiviurs software (or something like a antivirus) that could include 'text' in the files only in order to 'vanacute' them?

I hope I could help you

[Xyvyr]

Sorry, it's been a while but I broke free

Originally posted by yaroslav


But have you try to download the file from here and play it?

Yes, I can play the original file I posted, and the one you posted with the same results.

Is Civ2 MGE 1.1 the last version avaliable for MAC?

It's 1.1.1 - that's the latest patch available for mac, which works fine with IP games.

Have you some antiviurs software (or something like a antivirus) that could include 'text' in the files only in order to 'vanacute' them?

No, no virus programs or anything.. the only thing I can guess is wrong is how the icon changes. The file you gave me has the icon of an Explorer text file, and is 44,544 bytes. The file I gave you has the icon of a civ net game, with a size of 44,455.. which doesn't seem right if you took off 128b. Huh - this is the info I get from using my mac's "get info" option on the file. I can play both the same.

I hope I could help you

Thank you very much for the help you've given me. It's very kind of you all. I'll investigate this further with a friend who owns a mac also. Have a good day!

[Henrik]

The icon thing is irrelevant, filetypes doesn't affect the contenst of the file (the reason it's different for the other file is becouse it's been edited on a PC and thus the filetype info has vanished and is replaced by the standard one (resulting in the icon changing)).

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by Xyvyr
Sorry, it's been a while but I broke free



Yes, I can play the original file I posted, and the one you posted with the same results.

You seem to be the only MAC player that can do that, I don't know why

No, no virus programs or anything.. the only thing I can guess is wrong is how the icon changes. The file you gave me has the icon of an Explorer text file, and is 44,544 bytes. The file I gave you has the icon of a civ net game, with a size of 44,455.. which doesn't seem right if you took off 128b. Huh - this is the info I get from using my mac's "get info" option on the file. I can play both the same.

As Henrik explained, the icon has not influence.

Thank you very much for the help you've given me. It's very kind of you all. I'll investigate this further with a friend who owns a mac also. Have a good day!

You're welcomed, as I'm concerned. Feel free to ask for help every time you need it

I suggest you one thing: download the file that I posted some days ago, load it on your civ2, without moving any unit, save it and repost it. Let's see if everytime you load a game in your Civ2 the text string is added.

Sorry, I could provide too much help as far as MAC are concerned. I hope we'll find the solution soon

Have a good day, as you said.

[Xyvyr]

Originally posted by yaroslav

I suggest you one thing: download the file that I posted some days ago, load it on your civ2, without moving any unit, save it and repost it. Let's see if everytime you load a game in your Civ2 the text string is added.

OK, I DL'd your file (pbemtest2.net), loaded it in multiplayer game mode as S*itting Bull, got the old game just as I left it at 4000BC at the end of turn. Didn't do anything but save it as pbemtest3.net, which is attached below.

[yaroslav]

The has recovered the text, so I wonder if your civ2 introduces the text.... Try to download the file and upload it before loading in Civ2. I want to know whether is MAC OS or Civ2 which introduces the 128 bytes text...

[Xyvyr]

I see what you're saying. Ok, so I'll go get the pbemtest2.net file you posted, that works for you, DL it, the UL it right back.

One thing first.
Much better ok..
I'll rename it to pbemtest4.net:

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by Xyvyr
I see what you're saying. Ok, so I'll go get the pbemtest2.net file you posted, that works for you, DL it, the UL it right back.

One thing first.
Much better ok..
I'll rename it to pbemtest4.net:

pbemtest4.net hasn't the text string... Ok, I don't know what it is happening to your file. It seems that Civ2 adds this string, but no other Civ2 for MAC is reported to have shwon a behaivour like that...

[beingofone]

Communication between players

In the world of high stakes politics everyone ALWAYS answers communications, otherwise they would not be in a position of government.It may seem a trivial thing,to simply ignore messages sent by other players,but I dont think the full impact of sending multiple messages unanswered has been given the proper attention.That is with regards to the dynamic of the game. Some players always answer the messages they get.And it seems that some never do.
For example-you have been attacked by a ruthless enemy .You dont know if you should negotiate terms or counterattack?BECAUSE YOUR LAST 5 MESSAGES HAVE BEEN IGNORED BY YOUR ALLY.
In the real world even countries at war communicate.If you have nothing to negotiate about with the other player then simply send a quick note to that effect.
If you were negotiating in Japan,say during the 16th century.And did not respond to the words spoken by a warlord-well you would be lucky to die quick.If you are in the same room with someone,and they ask you a question.do you just pretend the other person doesnt exist?
I find that I cannot enjoy a game where that communication doesnt exist especially when the platform of diplomacy is critical.
So please-IF YOU ARE CHECKING YOUR THREADS ,ANSWER YOUR MESSAGES.

ok-I am done ranting-lol

[Cyrion]

I fully agree with beingofone: even if the answer is short, it is important that it is done!

BUT sometimes, you just want to check something on the file before answering, and then you forget to answer... I know it happened to me...

[Henrik]

Originally posted by yaroslav
..PBEMtest1.net................................... ...............Cv2NCiv2...................<...<.....mBIN.....................

[where .. means not printable character]

This text incluides both the name of the file and a 'Civ2' string. I don't how why you get this text before the file, but you must delete it in order to load it in a PC (and in a MAC, as Henrik told us).

Having looked at this again I know where it's comming from!

I have no idea why it shows up in the file though...

Cv2N and Civ2 is the filetype and creator code for civ 2 .net saves on macs, I have no idea why it shows up here though so maybe this isn't of much help.

I have still been able to use .sav and .net files and PC users have been able to use mine

[yaroslav]

Well, I don't know why the Xyvyr's OS add these lines to the files... I don't know too much about MAC , but I believe that it is not the standar behaviour

[Henrik]

Hey also yaroslav, could you send me the source code for civdip, becouse I think I know someone who might be able to have a look at it and try to macify it?

If you don't want to part with it I'll understand though

[Lonello]

Well, I've found 1 spelling error (getting back to the start of this thread ). 'but as long as you have an agreement whit the actual player that wont matter very much.' The 'h' has gone walking in 'with'. Do a get a prize now, Henrik ?

As for the guide, after "Multiplayer Game" I do not get "TCP/IP Game". I have the Ultimate Civ II collection... is that OK? I normally choose 'Hot Seat' and sent over the saved game to my friends. Bad side is, the one you sent it to can see into all your affairs. But it works. There's also Network and Internet Game and Dial Up. With Network, you can later choose TCP/IP.