These civ3 people will be easy pickings in MP

[Ming]

I think it's safe to say that MP and SP are TOTALLY different games.

I know people who can kill the AI without even thinking... and then get smashed when having to play somebody else who actually thinks...

Time will tell on this game. The original strategies we used with Civ II MP are no longer being used. The strategies evolve as we learn more about the dynamics that MP brings to the game. I'm sure the same will happen with Civ III.

And I will have to say... If you have never played Civ MP, then you are a rookie... by definition... no insult intended...

[SmartFart]

Originally posted by Tuberski


I've never played MP, Does this automatically mean I am a bad player, or as sunshine says a "rookie"?

No it doesn't, it means I don't see how doing the same thing game after game is much fun.

1. Yes it does.

2. What makes you think I am doing the same thing game after game?

[SmartFart]

Originally posted by SpencerH
I've read some crap on this site, but this lot takes the cake. A bunch of "big-shots" smarming it up cos they play CIV2 MP.... the game where you can obliterate your enemy with arty.

You mean obliterate AI with an arty.

You know how many times I saw howitzers in mp? Zero times.
Artillery....maybe 5-6. Vast mayority of the games are over before tactics.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by SmartFart


1. Yes it does.

2. What makes you think I am doing the same thing game after game?

1. I've played these games at least as long as you have, I am a rookie at MP, not TBS games.
Of course, I always will be a rookie at MP.

2. You mean to tell me that you can actually have a builder strat in MP?

Not according to the post below:

Originally posted by SmartFart

You mean obliterate AI with an arty.

You know how many times I saw howitzers in mp? Zero times.
Artillery....maybe 5-6. Vast mayority of the games are over before tactics.

No tactics? How can you possible be a builder in that time?

[Velociryx]

Intriguing that a game called Civilization, supposedly representing the grand, epic sweep of time and human history is over in MP before tactics, in most cases.

-=Vel=-

[SmartFart]

Pure builder - hardly without Great Wall even on large maps.
Hybrid - thats me (in MP I mean ).

No offense,but I don't see the point of this debate when you have only SP expirience and I have both.

But for heavens sake if you find SP challenging and entertaining,have fun. It's all that matters isn't it?

[Jon Shafer]

Re: These civ3 people will be easy pickings in MP

Originally posted by HappySunShine
It seems that alot of the civ3 players don't like rushing...nor do they like competition...or micromanaging...or anything they don't feel is in the FUN spirit of the game. Even the famed Velociryx has turned out to be nothing more than an SP rookie with pretty words. Yes, we will dominate civ3 and we shall rule under an iron fist! Take heed my comrades for in just a few months time we shall establish our rule ove the SP rookies that inhabit the civ3 forums. And a glorius rule it shall be!! MUWAHAHAHAA!!!

If you're so great, your majesty, then play me once PtW comes out, and we'll see who's better, your highness.

Unless you're afraid to face a 'rookie'...

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by SmartFart
Pure builder - hardly without Great Wall even on large maps.
Hybrid - thats me (in MP I mean ).

No offense,but I don't see the point of this debate when you have only SP expirience and I have both.

But for heavens sake if you find SP challenging and entertaining,have fun. It's all that matters isn't it?

OF course that is all that matters.

And no offense taken, I'm at work and have to do SOMETHING with my time.

[Alexander's Horse]

MarkG can stop us spamming their forums but he cannot stop us smashing their civs

[War4ever]

Originally posted by War4ever
MP is the thing that makes a person truly great at the game.... though there are many SP out there who simply do not have the time.......

Ok Tubby..this is what i wrote..... it doesn't state that if you dont' play MP you aren't a good/great player....

the ........ after "do not have time" implies that there are some great SP out there who don't play MP....

some names.. DaveV, Scouse Gits, Marquis , and the list goes on and on......

Almost all of us here at the site...can whup the ai on any level, setting etc..... the only thing all games have in common is their objective.....to win, and to have fun.

if you have fun playing an ai which does the same thing each game....fine i prefer to play humans on different settings, levels etc . who all take different paths to glory/destruction.

In the old days.......games went longer...but were all so much better now..so games end alot quicker....

i play the mongols.....but if my opponents were to characterize my play, it would say AGGRESSIVE, EXPANSIONIST, and MILITARISTIC.... like any other MP player.

Go build your ship in SP..hide behind an attrocious AI..... but until you step into the arena of death, and sink your teeth into a REAL opponent, your nothing but a civver who is good at an easy SP TBS game

and if you think SP games are different , your gravely mistaken.......there is only one aspect of this game to master....and that is trade

*steps off soapbox as he is pelted by fruit from the SP community*

[markusf]

in civ 2 there is a HUGE difference between a AI player and a human player. In civ3 i think there won't be much of a difference especially if your playing on diety. The AI cheats like crazy and attacks with stacked units and you can only kill one at a time. Unlike civ2 you actually need a bit of skill to defend yourself. If you have played on diety you will notice its not uncommon to see the AI send a stack of 90 units at you. If anything civ3 will take 3 times as long to play as civ 2..

[boann]

"The AI cheats like crazy "
this really puts me off civ 3...ive played and played and only get mad and throw in the towel cursing the monitor.

i think when it finally comes out in mp
then having a game with only human players will end that won't it?

[Ming]

Again... different game... different strategies.

Anybody that has played Civ II MP knows the difference You win by crushing your opponents. It's that simple.

[Theseus]

Over in Civ3 Strategy, some of us have been playing a conquest-only challenge that a poster named 1337 put up... it sounds sort of like the way you guys describe Civ2 MP.

In it, I built just Settlers, Temples, Barracks, Warriors (which upgrade to Swordsmen), Swordsmen, and Knights.

I crushed everything in my path.

It was boring, though, compared to a "full" game.

Is that overcome in MP by the fact that you're beating humans, rather than the AI?

[markusf]

Originally posted by Theseus
Over in Civ3 Strategy, some of us have been playing a conquest-only challenge that a poster named 1337 put up... it sounds sort of like the way you guys describe Civ2 MP.

In it, I built just Settlers, Temples, Barracks, Warriors (which upgrade to Swordsmen), Swordsmen, and Knights.

I crushed everything in my path.

It was boring, though, compared to a "full" game.

Is that overcome in MP by the fact that you're beating humans, rather than the AI?

crushing everything in site is very boring in civ3. So is playing the game and not attacking.. Whoever gets a army of 10 or 12 units first will win..