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  • In 2X Production, What's The Most Worthless Wonder ?

    I'm not specifying a play level, because I don't think that matters for the question.
    If you do, just say "I play 'X' level, and 'X' Wonder to me is the worst".

    On 2X production, I still contend that Pyramids are a waste of time and effort.


    So what are your choices ?
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  • #2
    the tower
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    • #3
      1. The tower (obvious)
      2. King Richards (pollution problems happen soon enough even without this one) I think I've only seen it built once in our regular 2x games.

      I think Pyramids is far from useless on 2x prod. In 2x prod a lot more cities are build on mountains, especially border cities. Pyramids helps them get to size three quicker for potential celebrating. But yes, it does more in 1x.

      Rich
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      • #4
        Originally posted by rah
        1. The tower (obvious)
        2. King Richards (pollution problems happen soon enough even without this one) I think I've only seen it built once in our regular 2x games.

        I think Pyramids is far from useless on 2x prod. In 2x prod a lot more cities are build on mountains, especially border cities. Pyramids helps them get to size three quicker for potential celebrating. But yes, it does more in 1x.

        Rich
        king richards is one of the best wonders combined with shakespears its more powerful then mikes especially on 1x.,
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        • #5
          Oracle, seems to expire VERY fast in x2
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          • #6
            the tower & and the Oracle seem to be the most usless
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            • #7
              Yes we thought the same on oracle, but then we just expanded it's life till idustrialization, and now it's much more popular. (i.e. it actually gets build now)

              And yes KRC is very good in 1x. In 2x, less so, which might explain why I've never seen Markus build it in any of our games.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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              • #8
                Originally posted by rah
                Yes we thought the same on oracle, but then we just expanded it's life till idustrialization, and now it's much more popular. (i.e. it actually gets build now)

                And yes KRC is very good in 1x. In 2x, less so, which might explain why I've never seen Markus build it in any of our games.

                in the game with me you makeo and someone else i built it. I had over 50 shields in one of my cities and was cranking out wonders like crazy. Also most of your games don't even get to engineering.
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                • #9
                  they always go past engineering.....more likely to cannons..then just as it gets interesting , it ends....

                  in a long game, CFC is kinda weak...not really needed by that time, although it can add a pop point or two...

                  UN..all this does, is get the senate in your way dueing war...the embassies, should already be there......

                  Manhattans no one likes nukes...... well i do

                  GW...most game disallow bribe so wall is out...and all it does is protect you until cannons...and by then if your not up to snuff.....walls or no walls..your in trouble
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                  • #10
                    King richard's crusade is good, but not as good as some other wonders. I used to go straight for richard's and get it like around 2400BC and then mine all the grass squares in my city. Shakespear's is basically useless on 2x. On 1x deity it's useful, but on deity any happy wonder is useful. 2x I've never ever built shakespear's. Oracle is completely useless on 2x, about as useless as shakespear's. Tower is pretty obvious of course. Copernicus and Isaac's are definitely useless unless you have an excess of caravans to get rid of. On 2x Pyramids is probably one of the best wonders.

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                    • #11
                      I must agree with penis flayer about the Pyramids.

                      I never build Great Library. I did twice and got,rounded, zero techs from it.
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                      • #12
                        Well most good players don't need to build GL, but in your case I would think GL would do wonders for you.

                        By the way, never knew you were a fan of penis. But if that's the way you swing that's your choice...not that there's anything wrong with that.

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                        • #13
                          Oh hi. Nice to see you drop by. Flayed some penis lately?
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                          • #14


                            Would you guys just stop it...
                            Keep on Civin'
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                            • #15
                              On the actual topic, and not the one related to body parts...

                              The most useless WoW with 2x and 1x production IMO The Oracle, but number 2 has to be Mr. Eiffel's tourist atraction. Women's Suffrage is also IMHO quite useless, as I don't expect that my cities wouldn't be without units as defense, but of course having as many wonders as possible will increase your scores, so building those most useless ones too is quite atractive too.
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