Hooray let's play Imperialism

[Pavlov]

The problem with regular mp is that you have to gather people who can be online at the same time.

Don't let one cheat stop you from playing PBEM's. After a while you learn what players can be trusted and who can't. The PBEM system has many flaws but right now it appears it's the best way to play a scenario in multiplayer.

[DrFell]

The problem can be solved to some degree by instituting random checks of saves by neutral parties (the mod, or someone else). That's what they do in CF, and it seems to have cut out some cheating. The other benefit is cheats tend to get caught early too (which is not always the case in some games).

[DrFell]

Thing about cheaters who leave never to return again, is that they often come back under different names Be vigilant.

[Pavlov]

Alright. Here's a suggestion: We advertise for a new German player. Also, Civfan, are you sure you don't want to continue?

What do you say?

[Civfan]

its ok with me if we find another player for germany

[academia]

Ok. I agree with you. Find another player for Germany.

[Prometheus]

Hmm lots happened lets see if we can find a new player for Germany. I belive its Japans turn lets continue to play till the German turn and see if we can get a new player.

To British: Due to lack of international support France has no choice but to remove its blockade of the British ships. That will be done this month. Yet we still encourage the British to come to Paris for a conference on spheres of influence.

[Case]

Am I correct in thinking that the person who started this game cheated in it?

Originally posted by DrFell
Thing about cheaters who leave never to return again, is that they often come back under different names Be vigilant.

I've suspected that as well. DrFell, if you suspect that someone is a cheaters DL then you should report them to the mods - having an (undeclared) DL is a banning offence on this site and CFC.

[Pavlov]

Hmm lots happened lets see if we can find a new player for Germany. I belive its Japans turn lets continue to play till the German turn and see if we can get a new player.

Aw, nuts, when will I ever learn the order of play?

Am I correct in thinking that the person who started this game cheated in it?

So it appears.

Um, I suppose Germany was passworded (can't remember right now) so if anyone would be kind enough to remove it we'd be ever grateful. Come on now guys, I know some of you can do that.

[Case]

Originally posted by Pavlov

Am I correct in thinking that the person who started this game cheated in it?

So it appears.

Wow, that's a new low.

At least you guys caught the ***** before he had time to do too much damage.

[Darius871]

Some extra damage could be that he was in a few other games.

Um, I suppose Germany was passworded (can't remember right now) so if anyone would be kind enough to remove it we'd be ever grateful. Come on now guys, I know some of you can do that.

Ironically enough, von Blucher knew how to do it.

[Darius871]

BTW I'd take Germany here if I hadn't already taken Germany in the "Another Imp1870" game, so I don't want to be redundant. If someone here were willing to take Germany and give me their civ I'd be in, but I don't think anyone would. Did anyone have their sights set on Germany but found that it was taken? I'll take anything but Germany that you have.

[Case]

Originally posted by Darius871 Ironically enough, von Blucher knew how to do it.

Now that you remind me, I do recall raising my eyebrows when von Blucher started removing passwords on what was basically his first post!

Does anyone what to speculate on who's DL he was?

[Darius871]

Now that you remind me, I do recall raising my eyebrows when von Blucher started removing passwords

I felt a bit uncomfortable about it too, I think you're talking about when he did a removal for us on the "Another Imperialism 1870" thread:

Originally posted by von Blücher
May I give you a hand?

I didn't really like the idea of new guys having that kind of power, you know? Like it's ok for Henrik, etc., but this worried me, as we all know that the newer one is here, the higher the odds that he/she will cheat (not to piss any newbies off, I'm just speaking from experience), and to see someone with some-odd forty posts suddenly removing passwords...

It was kinda depressing too to see a bunch of regulars welcoming him and everything on another
thread and this happens.

But there has to be someone. I mean, if somebody cheats, he should be punished.

To add to the discussion, the only real attempt at punishment of cheaters occurred when Kobayashi started a thread where there would be a list of known cheaters so that even if they are not banned from the forum, they could be banned de facto by the blacklist. However, it was closed due to grating threadjacking (and then the bastards got the PBEM FAQ killed too), not to mention that the moderators and others later decided behind the scenes to continue the closing after debating the ethics of such a list (personally I think it was not unfair). You can still see the thread there though, titled BLACKLIST of PBEM Dropouts (it later came to include cheaters as well). As far as I know no such attempt at de facto bans has been made at Apolyton.

[techumseh]

So, can I actually get into the game?