A Question!

[Flatlander Fox]

Luck has SOO much to do with it, and a terrible player who gets lucky can stay in games where the elites are having tougher luck.

But when Elites play each other, it has a much greater impact. The formulas that bind the good players prove that. One guy gets a tribe, and the other gets a barb EARLY, and the game is over in 3700 b.c. And playing against great players, you can't count on them making many mistakes. They know the tricks, and the formulas to get them to whatever level they are looking for. So when you pop that Barb hut in 3700 b.c., and he kills off your settler, while the other guy gets a tribe, you feel that the game is already over for you.

I can understand that completely.

BUT, I don't agree with it. Just like Risk (A horrid, awful game) when you attacked with 13 armies against two, and the guy defeated you, you felt like quitting. Some did quit, but most of us stayed and finished the game.

The great players are not separated by as much as they would like you to believe. But it is generally the luck that seperates them in the games. Whether one is gracious enough to admit that is an entirely different thing.

[SlowwHand]

Whether they admit that every single game is different, no matter all else, is another thing too.

[StrategicKingMi]

It sounds to me like you are saying the best players "duck" games with others who are supposedly good or great as the case maybe. And I AM that other guy. There is a reason I dont want to play Eyes. I doubt that any fun could be had playing someone with his disposition. Who else do you consider to be worth of being called great? If a new canidate is choosen, and will play on a 90 x 90 board, 2 x 2 , king... I will for sure play.

[Ming]

Originally posted by StrategicKingMi
There is a reason I dont want to play Eyes. I doubt that any fun could be had playing someone with his disposition.

I rest my case...

[-Jrabbit]

Apparently Strategic Boy forgot to read through the first post...


More than a trend, to my eyes, god-ducking is a way of life. What's weird is how these players then insist on crowing to the same ppl they refuse to play. Where's the satisfaction in that?


Maybe I need to spend a few months at the Zone to experience the wonder of it all first hand...

[atawa]

The zone is quite civilized lately, it's just here in forums.

Well thank god I'm not a great player, this way I can still play anyone and dont worry about loosing

[rah]

Originally posted by Flatlander Fox

But when Elites play each other, it has a much greater impact. The formulas that bind the good players prove that. One guy gets a tribe, and the other gets a barb EARLY, and the game is over in 3700 b.c. And playing against great players, you can't count on them making many mistakes. They know the tricks, and the formulas to get them to whatever level they are looking for. So when you pop that Barb hut in 3700 b.c., and he kills off your settler, while the other guy gets a tribe, you feel that the game is already over for you.

1. you shouldn't be opening that hut with your settler after your cap is down that early, unless you're far behind, or it's on a mountain and the settler has a chance to survive a barb.

2. I agree that that one thing early can make a big difference (tribe vs barb) but i will dissagree that the game is over. Granted a few more lucky things like that will be the death bell but one, there's still a chance to make up for it with later luck. Which is why i really have a problem when people want to concede on the spot at 3600. But there are times when you can tell that early. And if people want to agree to restart for the FUN factor. As long as it doesn't happen every game, I'm always willing to give it a shot to come back.

Rich

[-Jrabbit]

Note to self:
After screwing up the start, remember to tell RAH that a restart would be Big Fun.

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by StrategicKingMi

If a new canidate is choosen, and will play on a 90 x 90 board, 2 x 2 , king... I will for sure play.

What happened to any settings any timer, strat?

[rah]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Note to self:
After screwing up the start, remember to tell RAH that a restart would be Big Fun.

Mostly used in duels when you want somewhat of an equal start. Sometimes in 3 player games, but very rarely in 4 man games.

[Panag]

hi ,

why is that the "old & famous" kings , the rulers of the game , ... , .....never post their tricks when some one with different skills ask's to exchange them , ....... , .....why, ...??

have a nice day

[Flatlander Fox]

The opening with a settler thing is probably why I'll never be great.

I have had some lousy starts, and played on. I've also had some opponents have some horrific starts, and quit. And some who have played on. When it's all in fun, it doesn't matter anyway.

I agree that you can create your own luck. What I'm saying is that the slightest difference in luck in the games with elite players will be the difference between winning and losing.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Flatlander Fox
The opening with a settler thing is probably why I'll never be great.

I have had some lousy starts, and played on. I've also had some opponents have some horrific starts, and quit. And some who have played on. When it's all in fun, it doesn't matter anyway.

I agree that you can create your own luck. What I'm saying is that the slightest difference in luck in the games with elite players will be the difference between winning and losing.

hi ,

it's noy just a Q of lick , ....he who dares wins , .........

have a nice day

[Hydey]

I don't believe in any God, let alone a civ one.

Ps Rah I here you had a bad game Saturday night he he

[Dank]

*munch munch munch*.......anyone want some popcorn?......I thing this thread is gonna get long