Wonders are obsolete!

[StrategicKingMi]

Most players are so lazy that they have come to rely on wonders to win games. I was like this, much like man walked on all fours in prehistoric days. I have evolved past the need for wonder construction. I will beat the hell out of anybody who wants to accept the following challenge.
1) random or premade large board with no dominate cont
2) human starting positions revealed so that they can be spread out as far as possible.
3) restarts and replays to ensure huts or random land dont screw up the game before government change.
4) no light house as it is the one wonder whos effects can not be countered fast enough
5) I will build no wonders other then mageleons and then only if I get it done first ( if game lasts to darwins voyage and hoover dam, I will build advanced wonders such as them)
6) 2 x 2 king of course

If you think a wonder is needed. I will tell you why you dont need it. Post a reply, I will educate you....

[Ming]

And this from a guy who has to create a new log on every time he wants to post because he can't figure out his old one

[War4ever]

i thought you said you wouldn't build ANY wonders..much less magellans duh! and darwins..gee...you want to play as the only person with a nice vet navy...how very kind

[Ming]

Re: Wonders are obsolete!

Originally posted by StrategicKingMi
2) human starting positions revealed so that they can be spread out as far as possible.

Oh yes... heaven forbid that you might have to deal with an agressive neighbor... might mess up your little strategy
Must be a "true" genius...

Oh yes... and king level to boot... but that's right, you don't want to have to build any units for martial law... so that's why you don't want anybody near you...
"true" genius...

Maybe you should "educate" yourself how to play at different settings... "true" genius...

[Hydey]

I will bite
please list all the wonders and tell my why I should not build them ?

Please teach me oh master

[rah]

I challange anyone to play be and observe by GREATNESS.

Every turn will be a masterpiece of godhood (which requires at least 20 -30 minutes prior to 3000 b.c. and much longer afterwards)
You will eventually pick up that pistol and blow your brains out in between turns from boredom. And I will once again prove that I am unbeatable.

Who wants to play

[StrategicKingMi]

My computer blew up internally. All passwords, all e-mail adress's were lost not to mention 6 of my favorite A-Team episodes that I slowly, painfully downloaded.
Games where you start too close never lead anywhere. They are either decided by land or huts. And if that manages to be fair, about 1 in 20 will be, then game is decided by horses or drags on endlessly. I have done this to death. I have played every way you can possible play. 2 x 2, 1 x 1, 3 x 3, 4 x 4, 2 x 1, 4 x 2, 4,x 1 etc. Med boards, small boards, team games and an endless array of other combinations. Ming, you obviously dont understand what I am looking for. I want a game that can be even going into 2000 or after. I want a game that you can build massive armys and fight with linear lines of modern units, both land and sea. I want a game where you build the infrastructure first then war later.
Make no mistake, if money was motivation , I could play extremely well on any settings and be more then a match verse anyone in the world. However, I play what I like, what entertains me, what I have fun with. I dont play hardly at all, but when I do, I want it to lead somewhere. if your so good, I dont know since we have never played, then take me up on my challenge.
And as far as mageleons goes, I wont build it if you dont. However , that two extra moves is an advantage that can not be duplicated by any method from the other side.
Every other wonder can be duplicated or made obsolete.
Great Wall on a game like this is useless since tech will come fast and furious.
Pyramids is not that big cause Ill be in republic and celebrating. i dont build small citys, I build 3 person citys with 3 settlers so they can celebrate.
Hanging Gardens sucks since only a handfull of citys need grow big. Market places in thoose citys will do the same thing and they will pay for themselves in 5-7 turns.
Mikes is uneeded since my big citys will have temples and markets and 3 routes each. Smaller citys will be kept small so they dont revolt.
Leos, in a game like this is uneeded since combat with modern units will come after tech is done and infrastructure laid and early units just hurt your infrastructure or trade route establishment.
Statue is only good for fundy but that is a losing strategy verse a democracy.
Deity just slows the game down and prevents growth. 1 x anything also just slows the game down and drastically increase the effect of bad land and bad huts that are overcomeable in 2 x 2. Under thoose settings the game just does not advance fast enough for me and i lose intrest.

[DrSpike]

I think it's time to start gathering amusing guesses at what the Mi would actually be.

I'll start. Mindless?

[Ming]

Originally posted by StrategicKingMi
My computer blew up internally. All passwords, all e-mail adress's were lost

Your password has been the same for your last few accounts, including your current one. All you had to do was change the email address in your profile... or is that asking to much of somebody with your level of genius

Ming, you obviously dont understand what I am looking for.

Oh... I totally understand. You are looking for a game where your strategy can work. Again, heavin forbid an aggressive neighbor comes a calling on you.

And from reading through your Wonders comments... you assume that combat will only happen in the later era's... Well yeah, keep everybody far apart and you do keep combat our of the early part of the game... but that's right, your system doesn't work if that's the case

Deity just slows the game down and prevents growth.

Yeah, wouldn't want you to have to actually build some defensive units early in the game...


So blah, blah, blah... another "genius" who claims he is the best, but only if you play on his settings

[SlowwHand]

"Reveal Human Starting Positions". What a weiner.

[SlowwHand]

And Strat, be quiet.

[War4ever]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
"Reveal Human Starting Positions". What a weiner.

must be a zone thing !!

[StrategicKingMi]

Mi stands for Michigan. I dont know why I try with you people. You all must be mindless robots by now , playing the same game time in and time again. Verse the same players , who play the same way. Playing a game in which huts and land control your fate 90 % of the time.
And Ming , I am tired of your degrading talk to one of the greatest players ever to slip the CD into a computer.
Thus, just to show you your place in the civ world, which is several levels below me. I am calling you out. Your settings in a 1 on 1 duel. Of course each indvidual game is meaningless thus I suggest a best or 3, all your settings.
I doubt you will have the grapefruits to back up your Strate bashing, which puzzels me since I made a legit challenge.
I thought that is what this forum is for anyways..............
Now back to the non-sense....Ming... start typing

[SuperSneak]

I can beat you without even playing!
Done!

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by StrategicKingMi
Thus, just to show you your place in the civ world, which is several levels below me. I am calling you out. Your settings in a 1 on 1 duel.

You can't refuse a challenge like that Ming.