Maybe we should set up a world championship

[Alexander's Horse]

I notice Ming's thread mentions lots of good players from different parts of the world.

Maybe we should stage a playoff to determine the "world Champion"? I thought we could vote for one or two reps per region (Europe, USA, Australia, any others?). Make it best of three games, perhaps do a duel and a teams event, a diplo...............

Someone might volunteer to organise it?

[Flatlander Fox]

A tournament?

Why don't you go join the ladder!?!

Those are the best players anyway? j/k

[Alexander's Horse]

Nah - the ladder sucks - its too formal. The best players are here anyway.

[Ming]

Somebody (was it cavebear) tried to set up some MP tournaments a ways back. I think the early rounds got played, and then it was never completed. If somebody else wants to try... fine. But a major question would be... on what settings, and what rules. As we've seen in the past, most people can't agree on these

[ColdWizard]

didn't somebody already try a best player tourney, only to have the whole thing collapse?


Ming's fast , i hope i can be that fast when i'm that old , too bad i'm likely to slow down

[Flatlander Fox]

Was being sarcastic before, and now my real answer:

Won't work...

Unless somebody sets it up, with rigid rules, and anyone who wants to will sign up... Then they will be the champ of that tourney...

Otherwise we will have to be satisfied to compare a$$ wuppins from different players as a guage of how good they are.

[Alexander's Horse]

Cavebear's thing was great (thanks to him) but my idea is keep it real small, just the best of the best as voted by their peers. No more than say 6-8 players duking it out.

Maybe we could get Mark to give the winner a special title (but someone else would have to suggest that - Mark never grants my requests).

[Ming]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Mark never grants my requests).

Gee... I wonder why

[ColdWizard]

random ideas

a nomination thread would have to come first, with a rule against self-nominations. then a poll to decide the 6-8 players that will participate. and at some point a discussion on the maps and settings to be used...

sounds like a great big pain in the ass, good luck to whoever decides to organize it (if anyone does)

[Ming]

Sounds like too much work...

Anybody stupid enough to volunteer?

[Hydey]

will Hydey turn up ?

Perhaps the different timezones could play games between themselves to determine there champion, eg .The aussie group. and after that then have the various champions organise games to find the true champ or chump .

[deity]

Great idea but...

I love this sort of thing but it rarely works out.

Cavebear brilliantly organised the Year 2000 Tourney that Nappy won but this was the only time it ever worked out. And even then half the players did not make it to the final round due to personal life getting in the way!

The Year 2001 Tourney, again organised by Cavebear, never finished Round One. The events that triggered this are amazing but typical ... After months of playing our game my ally, Markus, quit because Hydey took out his Wonder city - ONE city. It was due to the treachury of me that allowed this to happen. I did a deal with the enemy (Hydey) because Markus I felt had betrayed me. In pure civ terms all this is fine and part of the game of course so I found it incredible that Markus, a player I would regard as one of the best in the game, a player who has said to me that he's not played for 6 mths now (since this game) because there is no challenge anymore, would just quit like that!

The point is there was challenge in that game but he quit out. Once it's not about super growth/trade some players's games fall apart and they lose their nerve to take up the serious challenges that the real civ game offers!

Had to say this. I still think Markus is one of the best players around but it's sad that he and others have missed out on the brpoad spectrum of challenges that civ offers. Too many players quit out when things look hopeless. Usually they honourably concede the game but there is no fun in that. I believe in playing to the loser video! And in the only game I've properly lost I saw that freaking video for the first time ever!!

I'll support you AH but you can't just throw up a post like this and ask some other galah to organise it! You crazy?? Only cavebears do that sorta thing... LOL

[DrFell]

I'll join a tourney if someone sets it up.

[deity]

Control and penalty

Maybe there needs to be a control mechanism so that you don't get a player quitting out after you've played for months.

A penalty is needed.

No one plays a tennis match and walks away without going to the 5th set. So, I reckon we need to penalise those that are judged by the 'democratic group and organiser' (say) as stepping out of line. If a judgement is made, like in tennis that the ball was out (!), then the players must stick with the decision no matter which way it goes. If someone quits out as a result then we need Apolyton's powers to penalise the player (no access to the forums or something).

Hey, it sounds Draconian but all serious sports and passtimes have these controls...

[markusf]

Re: Great idea but...

Originally posted by deity
I did a deal with the enemy (Hydey) because Markus I felt had betrayed me. In pure civ terms all this is fine and part of the game of course so I found it incredible that Markus, a player I would regard as one of the best in the game, a player who has said to me that he's not played for 6 mths now (since this game) because there is no challenge anymore, would just quit like that!

You know damn well why i quit. I considered what you did blatent cheating. Out of the hundreds of big games i have played its the only one i ever quit.