Who is the Best MP Player

[Ming]

Who is the Best MP Player YOU HAVE PLAYED AGAINST?

I figured if the question was who is the best, many people would just respond "I AM"... so to avoid all the normal chest thumping (yeah, pigs fly, but what the heck) you can only mention somebody besides yourself...

I personally haven't played many of the self proclaimed "greats",
but my vote would go to Kaak... and to the best of my knowledge, I don't think he has ever been accused of cheating.

Who was your biggest nightmare...

[DrFell]

The best? Why that would be me of course

[DrFell]

But seriously... I haven't played that many great players myself... having joined in the later days of civ2 MP. I'd have to say the best I played so far was Eyes.

[Ming]

Originally posted by DrFell
The best? Why that would be me of course

I saw you were on-line, so I figured you would be the first to respond in this manner

[DaveV]

With apologies to the other people I've played, I'd pick oedo. Not only a very strong player, but always fun to play. Of course, I've never played against a lot of the other people whose names will probably appear on this list...

[-Jrabbit]

Since you're the only person I've "played" in MP, Ming, it would have to be you.

How's that for a totally gratuitous vote?

[Ming]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Since you're the only person I've "played" in MP, Ming, it would have to be you.

That's not true... You have also played Rah... So you must be saying that I'm better than Rah

[-Jrabbit]

Originally posted by Ming
That's not true... You have also played Rah... So you must be saying that I'm better than Rah

Hey, I'm not getting into that discussion -- now or ever!
(I knew I shouldn't get involved in this thread...)

[Dank]

Well with me it would depend on what settings........with 1x1x I'd have to say DeityDude. plus he never brags.......with the 2x2x settings, well I'd have to say BraveLaker (remember him anybody) for the same reason.......doesn't thump his chest when we wins............

[rah]

I don't think there is a best player. There are too many factors involved in MP..some luck...some skill. Even the best player goes down if everyone else in the game gangs up on them. So I think the real question is, who are the better players? Who consistantly does well despite the hand they're dealt?

Disclaimer: I can only judge the players that I've played more than a couple of games with. So I have left some well known players off the list.

Current Players
Top tier (no particular order)
1. War4 (adapts well, good expansion, and a good battlefield general. He sometimes runs into problems with his warrior defense at the core.)

2. Markus (focuses on trade which usually keeps him near the tech lead where he can exploit those tech windows. If you don't harass him early, you're usually in for a long night.)

Other players that I consider good players but sometimes lack consistency.

1. Berz (better than average expansionist, but sometimes use excessive resources to take a city you placed just to make him do it.) Of course sometimes i spend too much defending that position He also sometimes falls for other traps set.
He is one of the best players when it comes to celebrating without any happy wonders.

2. Smartfart (Usually provides excellent competition, but sometimes doesn't adapt as well when pinned in early. He is an all around solid player.)

3. Ming (unfortunately I don't get to play many games with him anymore so it's hard to judge how he has improved over the last couple of years, and to list him in the top tier even if he may belong there.) He's a better than average expansionists. He, like me, probably spends more on defense then necessary.


Players from the past.
Matt. (solid player that would vary his stratagy more frequently than others, making him very unpredictable/dangerous. He was another of the better battlefield generals.)

Carnide. (one of the better expansionists. You needed to find him and jump on him early also.)

John Barbarosa. (I learned quite a few tricks playing him. I'd like to think that with my extra experience since playing him last, that I'd be able to hold my own against them. especially using RAH rules )

Rich
My apologies to any I may have missed. I've played so many people over the years. Thanks to all.

[ColdWizard]

kaak and rah. both have repeatedly, consistently, and good-naturedly trounced me by wide margins. kaak using general zone settings (king 2x2x etc.) and rah using rah rules.

[deity]

Makeo and Markus

Definitely these two.

They are totally diferent players and are the two players I've honestly learnt the most from.

You know that situation when you are playing a game and you love being in control but you suddenly get that feeling like the mafia just knocked on your front door! You are gonna die!

Especially with Makeo. He is always aggressive and competetive, not exactly the most peaceful player around Without chest thumping, he's the only player to properly defeat me.

Markus has developed lots of good growth and trade strats which allow you to build a brilliant civ.

I feel I've absorbed skills from both these players but also other players. There are lots of great players around. I even learnt from AlexHorse True! He's become a very good player.

Oh yeah, I forgot about MarkE. Besides being a great builder he is the best player for strategic movement of units in war times. And is one of the few who can turn a game around when all looks lost.

I've probably forgotten a few but obviously Nappy and arii are great players - only played a game or so with them.
Not played Smartfart yet.
Berzerker has become a very very good player also and is a great sport.

Sorry if I forgot anyone...

edit... Hydey said I better put mentiuon him! So consider this a mention
Seriously though, he's become a very good and dangerous player and is only one of three players to have ever taken a city from me, oops, sorry Ming

[Hydey]

All of us who play MP are all very good players , we all have strengths and weaknesses against different opponents.
There are some who are very good at war, others at trade and some have a very balanced game.

I just enjoy playing with all of you.

[SmartFart]

Aritea is only player i lost all games i played ageaist him.
My vote to Arii.

[Alexander's Horse]

*better keep the Aussie flag flying*

The best player I regularly play against is Deity. The trouble is he doesn't do duels (he certainly won't duel me) so its hard to compare him to some others.

Makeo would probably be the best Australian duelist I've played.

Honourable mentions go to War4 and Markusf.

One thing I've noticed is some players seem to need particular game settings for their "gameplan". I haven't played many of the other Americans because of time differences.

I'm a very lazy player - I don't micro, I watch TV between turns or chat on icq, surf the net. I just expand and then fight it out.

I'd rather play with people who are good company than necessarily good players per se.