Interested in building a ladder

[Spartan_RawB]

CF has shut down ladder play. Atawa has set one up at Case's, but I would like a ladder that's a little more stylish (no offense to that site at all though).

So I'm putting a call out to interested programmers out there. I'm also interested in acquiring and possibly buying some progs to build a ladder. Willing to put some money into it, if the proposition looks good.

Ideas?

[DrFell]

I think a ladder would be very difficult to keep active now, with so many of the competitive players having left the game with the death of Civfan. Atawa's ladder is not very good because of the strange rules system Case's ladder uses. I think it's more trouble than it's worth trying to set up a new one, but feel free to try.

[EyesOfNight]

Atawa's ladder is a good one as long as he keep's it up. Meaning he has to force the number 1 player to play. As long as he does that it's got alot going for it. The stats are really cool. I wouldn't waste time on creating a new ladder, the game is only going to continue to lose it's popularity.

[EyesOfNight]

Actually forget I said that. Atawa's ladder doesn't even have enough players for a top 10 yet. I'd just give up on playing competitively. Not enough players are left.

[Spartan_RawB]

Well in terms of money, how much could it cost me? Others play similar amounts for lesser entertainment like buying videogame consoles. Besides, borrowing Atawa's words, "A game like this does need a ladder." It encourages competitive play and it's fun to see how people compare against others.

The thing I would like most about being the ladder's admin is my power to ban Eyes from ever playing in one (Eyes, I don't know what you have against me, but I don't understand these false gameleague reports that you and fell are reporting against not only me, but about half the ladder players).

That goes for Fell too as he has demonstrated time and time again his willingness to go to new lows to piss off people. Fell, one thing I hate is liars. At least Eyes is annoying and he's an *******, but I don't recall him flat-out lying like you. You may be getting entertainment value out of it, but to me lying and having fun are two different things and your inability to separate the two really makes me wonder what kind of character you are in real life.

Getting back to the point, if any of you have programming expertise, or if Trajan or Kwang want to lend me or sell me the ladder codes, please contact me at robbie_farmboy@hotmail.com.
I'm not looking for any fancy ladders, just one that will rank players, allow players to add description of games, and a screen that shows the difference in points before and after.

[DrFell]

'Well in terms of money, how much could it cost me? Others play similar amounts for lesser entertainment like buying videogame consoles. Besides, borrowing Atawa's words, "A game like this does need a ladder." It encourages competitive play and it's fun to see how people compare against others.'

The game has a ladder, too. It's just a shame there are no competitive players left.

'The thing I would like most about being the ladder's admin is my power to ban Eyes from ever playing in one (Eyes, I don't know what you have against me, but I don't understand these false gameleague reports that you and fell are reporting against not only me, but about half the ladder players).'

So you'd abuse your power as an admin, banning people at will because you don't like them, not because of cheating etc? By the way, don't forget I haven't reported against half the ladder players, only Kuja, because there are no admins left to remove him, and frankly he doens't deserve that number one spot.

'That goes for Fell too as he has demonstrated time and time again his willingness to go to new lows to piss off people. Fell, one thing I hate is liars. At least Eyes is annoying and he's an *******, but I don't recall him flat-out lying like you. You may be getting entertainment value out of it, but to me lying and having fun are two different things and your inability to separate the two really makes me wonder what kind of character you are in real life.'

Funny, your one of the most consistent liars I've ever encountered in this game. I keep at least one save of all my games, but it's funny I can't find the 10-20 games I apparently played you in, the ones you claim you kicked my ass in? And as for seperating the game from real life, you were the one who was threating to track me down and kill me

[EyesOfNight]

ummmm....maybe you didn't hear me correctly when I said that the only reason gameleague is even still there is because frank lost the password? That means that there wouldn't even be a ladder to fool around with if frank had the password still because he would have removed it. Then what? Who really cares. When was the last time you played a game on gameleague robbie? How many people do you think even visit gameleague? It's dead and the only reason it's still there is because frank can't take it down.

[Frank Johnson]

Heh...who wants to buy my admin account at gameleague?

If you're rich and essentric......maybe if you offer me enough to fix my car's AC and get me a PS2 I'll sell it to you. It still works, because I just activated the delete inactive members function today and killed about 500 members........

[Spartan_RawB]

Dr. Fell remarks: "Funny, your one of the most consistent liars I've ever encountered in this game."

Fell, go ask around and see if anyone else in this community shares your opinion. I rest my case.

[DrFell]

Originally posted by Spartan_RawB
Dr. Fell remarks: "Funny, your one of the most consistent liars I've ever encountered in this game."

Fell, go ask around and see if anyone else in this community shares your opinion. I rest my case.

How many in this community even know you? Yes, I do know several people who think you're a liar and were glad you quit on the zone, but I'll refrain from naming them. Also, you only lie about people you don't like, or who you cannot defeat with the truth. For example, I remember when you said: 'now I know why they call you DrFell, when you lose to someone you doctor saves and accuse them of cheating!'. Hehe I was actually laughing at that one. But not long after W0ke accused me of doctoring those Kuja saves, and you came up with your lie about me threatning to modify saves against you too. Fortunately that all got shot down as you presented no evidence, and the saves were proven to be genuine. But it just shows that you befriend people and then try to use them as 'contacts' to try and destroy your enemies' reputations. Yes indeed Robbie, you are a liar.

[Spartan_RawB]

Fell, you're not worth my time. As for your doctoring of the saves, woke was about to ban you from CF based on my evidence before CF stopped supporting the ladder. In his exact words, "Eyes and Fell never had anything positive to contribute to the civ community."

Everyone welcomed me back upon my return. I wanted to clear the air about my absence (you blatantly LIED that the reason for my departure was because you had BEATEN me in a game, a game that WASN'T even played). Everyone at the zone - hawk, dank, booze, strate, atawa, kiklop etc. etc. - cheered me on and gave me a warm welcome.

I realize that outside of your fun "together-times" (whatever that means) with Eyes, you have bloody plenty of time, time you use to insult, slander, lie, defame, accuse, fabricate, and in its entirety make a total arse out of yourself in these forums.

Hey, it's a free country...

[DrFell]

'Fell, you're not worth my time. As for your doctoring of the saves, woke was about to ban you from CF based on my evidence before CF stopped supporting the ladder. In his exact words, "Eyes and Fell never had anything positive to contribute to the civ community."'

Actually, woke was about to ban me but he backed down after the saves were proven to be genuine. And the evidence sure as hell wasn't yours, woke came to the conclusion the saves were modified by himself, it's a shame he has such limited experience dealing with doctored saves. Basically he was saying 'I know you doctored them, I don't know how, but I'm sure you did'. We also have another case of your truth-distortion here, that comment from 'woke' actually sounds just like you! My god, maybe you're not telling the whole truth there? For one, I have had lots of good games with woke, and for two, he called me Ironic, that was my ladder name after all. Please, next time get some facts to back you up.

'Everyone welcomed me back upon my return. I wanted to clear the air about my absence (you blatantly LIED that the reason for my departure was because you had BEATEN me in a game, a game that WASN'T even played). Everyone at the zone - hawk, dank, booze, strate, atawa, kiklop etc. etc. - cheered me on and gave me a warm welcome.'

LOL, the sun was shining, the skies were a cloudless blue, and the crowds were cheering their hero Robbie, come to save the zone from DrFell and his evil minions.

'I realize that outside of your fun "together-times" (whatever that means) with Eyes, you have bloody plenty of time, time you use to insult, slander, lie, defame, accuse, fabricate, and in its entirety make a total arse out of yourself in these forums.'

'Together times'? What are you talking about! Please elaborate, and let's not turn this into another 'Eyes and Fell are gay!!!' thread. Frankly I think you're the one making an arse of yourself, I posted an innocent reply to this thread, you exploded. I posted an innocent thread awhile back, you took to slandering me again. Everything I post ends up being attacked by you, no matter how true/innocent it might be. Now just sit back, calm down, and take your medication. Maybe then you can come on and we can have a civilized discussion.

[DrFell]

By the way, I think it's pretty funny how you and Kuja both resort to calling me gay. If you read the chatlog, some of the things Kuja says are hauntingly similar to your insults. Funny how all the liars drop down to the same level.

[Spartan_RawB]

Oath, what are you? What is your relationship with Eyes? Why are you so "buddy-buddy" with him? Perhaps the transcripts will help clear the air about the nature of your relationship.

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KuJa_2> yep, were you there in the zone der_hazardeur when eyes called oath his *****?
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Der_Hazardeur> i was here
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KuJa_2> ha, there eyes, there's my proof
KuJa_2> when [Eyes] called oath your "*****" in the zone
Der_Hazardeur> he did
Der_Hazardeur> you are HIS *****
Der_Hazardeur> wow what a achievmend
l3lood_Oath> is that really relevent?
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Der_Hazardeur> being somebody elses *****
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And today, I inquired Fell about this, because I simply could not believe it.

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Robbie_Tiger> funny how you stick with eyes, someone who considers you his *****
Robbie_Tiger> funniest thing is
Robbie_Tiger> you even posted that excerpt for everyone to see, and eyes didn't even deny it
Robbie_Tiger> your best response to it was, "you're chaning the subject"
Robbie_Tiger> that seems to be a popular line for you these days
l3lood_Oath> changing the subject on what?
Robbie_Tiger> that's what you told kuja
Robbie_Tiger> when he let you know how eyes thinks of you
Robbie_Tiger> he thinks you're his btich
Robbie_Tiger> get it?
(Enter)> StrayZero0
Robbie_Tiger> lol
l3lood_Oath> umm, the fact is, i don't really care about that
Robbie_Tiger> LOL
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Just posted the above for the curious minds about the nature of relationship between Oath and Eyes. And for the dictionarily challenged:

*****(slang):
1. A female dog
2. Somebody paid for sexual intercourse: Somebody who receives money in return for sexual intercourse or other sex acts

I ought to appeal to the board to have a 3rd definition for the slang, to describe a certain type of person: 3. Both.

[DrFell]

Oh god, not the old 'gay' routine again. First, we don't have any chat transcripts from the actual event, which suggest fabrication. Secondly, only two people have ever seen this happen before, one of them being Kuja (a known liar as I proved before), and the other Der_Hazardeur, a person who I know has a grudge against me after I kicked his ass a few times in duels, a newbie with a big mouth, basically. In other words, these two happen to be some of the least trustworthy witnesses you could pick. So go ahead Robbie, dodge the subject. But don't come crying to me when the whole civ world (or what's left of it) comes here laughing at you.