Another Age of War PBEM

[Henrik]

Yes that would probably be wise

[Soundwave]

*comes to the stand in chains and handcuffs*

First of all i'm not a cheater! Never have never will cheating sinks.
I wouldn't do it coz i know how it feels to have a game when there is a cheat in there looking at my turns, coz i didn't have a password.

Secondly as i have told Case (Nick) in an agry e-mail, it was a joke to get France and Italy on my side after the Entente is destoryed. I couldn't have Britian by its self. Sorry Russia i will prove my innocents even at the price of a silly PBEM.

It was a joke plan and simple, not serious, i dont know how to hack and never have, i'm not a compter tech, I'm a bloody milkman for chirst sake and i love playing Civ2 and more so PBEM, coz its alot of Diplomacy and back door talking.

From now on, maybe i shouldn't make a joke, or say anything if it leads to this, i am deeply hurt by this and deeply disturbed that you cant say anything to any one anything its appualing!

Quote:
Sean says:
look its calle hacking into the Civ2 System ok
Sean says:
but hush!, no-one is safe... hahahhaha

*hahahhaha*- that mean laughing as kidding!

Sean says:
*hi i'm sean i'm a computer tech*
winterfritz_21@yahoo.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) says:
?
Sean says:
lol

-If anyone is on msn and others like yahoo * means an action or to do something funny... as i said b4 a milk i be, a computer tech i am not!

Nick says:
He's got no RR
Sean says:
he has 6 engineers working... he will have ALOT of rialway soon

-i was guessing, i dont know what hes got...


I think this is stupid i would like to claim defamation. As this has caused lost of Reutation, and lost of Face.

I give you my word i did not do it. If someone knows about knights or even christdom... they would know thats one of the highest things and if they broke there word hell waits when they die, and i'm Catholic, so heaven looks quite nice. (i can play civ2 all the time )

BTW- I dont know how to get in like Gothgar...

[Dr. Nick]

Well, soundwave, giving one's word is by far a very unreliable scenario nowadays, just look at all those politicians.

[Case]

Originally posted by Soundwave
*hahahhaha*- that mean laughing as kidding!

I thought that it was evil laughter, as in - "I can hack into everyone's game, so my enemies better fear me" type stuff.

Originally posted by Soundwave
-If anyone is on msn and others like yahoo * means an action or to do something funny... as i said b4 a milk i be, a computer tech i am not!

That was the first time I'd ever used MSN Messenger.
As the transcript shows, Fritz and I did sugest that what you had claimed to have done was cheating, an accusation which you didn't respond to, despite it's seriousness. Needless to say me and Fritz found this to be rather disturbing.

Originally posted by Soundwave
-i was guessing, i dont know what hes got...

ANZAC, what do you have?

Originally posted by Soundwave
I think this is stupid i would like to claim defamation. As this has caused lost of Reutation, and lost of Face.

I give you my word i did not do it. If someone knows about knights or even christdom... they would know thats one of the highest things and if they broke there word hell waits when they die, and i'm Catholic, so heaven looks quite nice. (i can play civ2 all the time )

BTW- I dont know how to get in like Gothgar...

If I'm wrong, I will offer you an unconditional apology, and will do so in my sig so everyone can see it where-ever I post.

[Soundwave]

I would kindly ask an apology from Case and Winterfritz, i'm sorry guys but you saying that might end up with everyone saying you cant do a PBEM coz you cheat... its not right and its unfair.

Since Case you are older and i hought wiser you would have asked me about this first instead of proceading and telling everyone i had cheating, not even asking me!?

I can understand, since its your first time with msg, but ost times if not all, everyones having fun and joking.

And last but not least, can we just play the bloody game for **** sakes, (yes case i can swear like a trooper too) and is there an Austria or not, i wanna know so we can get on with this!

Thank you!

God damn *@$(@% @$&@)( @&*(% #*% ##* GRRRRR!

BTW- does everyone know how to take a joke, or kdding, i'm sorry but you have to understand i'm always having fun, lifes to short to be BORING!!!

[klesh]

You could also offer an apology for the 'confusion'.
No one wants to play with cheaters and joking about it isnt that funny.

-FMK.

[The ANZAC]

Coming up to make a statement....

First- Case and Winterfritz: Don't apologize!! How were you two supposed to know that Soundwave wasn't hacking the save? And when seriously questioned, he remained ambiguous.

And what have I been doing? Well, I have not been making threatening maneuvres on my allies and I have been building my industrial infrastructure, if I have the money. Also Winterfritz can probably support the claim that I am developing, his freights probably see it.

Soundwave: First, if you had really hacked my file, I would have booted you off. But you didn't so I don't. Soundwave, you have to understand that people don't like dealing with a lying, conniving, ambiguous player in a PBEM game. It doesn't gain allies quickly, it makes you lose them. So there is what I have to say.

[JamesJKirk]

*hahahhaha*- that mean laughing as kidding!

I also took that as the sort of evil laugh people do.

Anyway, so what about Spain or Austria for me, eh, eh?

[Dr. Nick]

Well, we can never be sure if the game was hacked or not. Perhaps he didn't even post the hacked save.

[Case]

Soundwave, I wish to apologise for not discussing this matter with you before posting it on this board. It was a major error of judgement for which I am truely sorry.



As for the 'cheating'; seeing that during our conversation you didn't respond to Winterfritz and I's sugestion that you were cheating, and in fact continued expressing your fear of the Russians, I have some doubts on wether to beleive your explinations.
As Henrik says that such hacking is easy for those who know how to do it, [which I don't] then I guess it dosn't matter wether you deliver milk or fix mainframes.

However, I prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt, and am happy to have you continue in this game, either as the British, or the Austrians under the conditions I agreed to earlier.

Case

[Soundwave]

Look.. i didn't cheat, i dont know how, even if i did, i dont watn to coz yes i know if you cheat you shouldn't play, i know that, and i knew the consequnces, so why would i do it? I WOULDN'T!!

I think that most ppl in the HS- Scenario League, are why too serious, honestly i dont understand the whole thing of me making a joke and get this! But i do admit i am at fault for 2 reasons, not saying anything when Case and Winterfritz said something (sorry i was talking to my g/f and my sis in aussie too so yea sorry) and i shouldn't have brought it up as a joke, i'll only do that with fellow NZers coz they can take a joke.. or a weird msg and laugh it off. Also cant we all just get along!

And about Anzac post lighten up GEEZ i dont know how to hack, truthfully!

God damn, can we please get on with the Game please, and forgive and forget, coz i'm pass caring about it i know i didn't i swore and el i'm not a politican so theres my truthful statement.

BTW- Sorry to anyone i have offened, i just which it was like b4 this stupid thing was posted.

[winterfritz]

Fair enough Soundwave. But while I'm prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt here, don't try to shift the blame for this onto me and Case. I think most of us have agreed that your statements are best understood as a straightforward admission to cheating. Me and Case were simply acting on that 'proof.'
You should have thought about those messages before sending them.

However, it does suck that your reputation has been screwed over like this. For that I apologise. You're right, we should have consulted you first, before posting the evidence like that.

If everyone agrees, I say we all go back and edit the posts about this, deleting it all. No one else need know about this, I'd like to just forget the whole sordid affair and get on with the game.

[Cyrion]

Settled for me...

For me, the matter is now over!! I'm willing to believe that Soundwave only made a bad joke (by the way, Soundwave, the fact that people do have a sense of humour doesn't mean that everything is funny ) and I would be glad to continue the game.

And I think 2 pages about this matter is enough!! Maybe someone learned that not everybody finds everything funny, and some others that maybe discussing things before accusing might sometimes be better...

And maybe a last one was happy to use the occasion to "patronize" over his fellow younger players .

So, everybody ready to keep on playing??

And about the Austrian matter : I would prefer the game with Austria, and if possible with El Awrence (but I would welcome JamesJKirk as well ).

[Soundwave]

OK look forgotten, so how do we delete it?


(oh if you look at the NWO PBEM if i knew how to hack don tyou think i would of to get the password off! DUH!)

The thing was i was going to give england to el and have Austria myself (some of my family come from there) or have el as austria.

Yes ok, everyone has a sense of humour

oh gotta use this

HEHEHE!

Ok lets decide!

[Case]

The posts in question can be removed by either me or a mod editing them.

However, at present I have no intention of doing this. I'd rather this matter stay out in the open, and the complete record of posts continue to be advailable.


Warvoid: If you are asked to delete or edit my posts, I request that you discuss the matter with me via PM's or email before doing so.
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Fritz, are you ready to play your turn?