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  • Poll: Swapping cities for Trade benefits

    Is it OK for the Tourney?

    IE,
    Two civs scheming to cede a city to each other to more easily boost trade to the other civ.....
    17
    Yes
    23.53%
    4
    No
    76.47%
    13

    The poll is expired.

    "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
    *deity of THE DEITIANS*
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  • #2
    It will be interesting to see how people vote on this. I don't think it seems proper to swap cities for this kind of purpose, so I hope the poll results are a firm "NO". It seriously disturbs me to contemplate the violation of natural border sovreignity that such a situation suggests.
    Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
    Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
    Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
    Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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    • #3
      It's more than a cheat, it's a fraud.
      " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
      "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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      • #4
        This is a joke right?
        The only thing that matters to me in a MP game is getting a good ally.Nothing else is as important.......Xin Yu

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        • #5
          My opinion is, it's not to be done.
          It's unrealistic, and not in the spirit of the game.
          I'm against swapping of anything.

          Yes, let's get this straight.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Smash
            This is a joke right?
            'fraid not... I got game maps that show it in action!
            "Old age and skill will overcome youth and treachery. "
            *deity of THE DEITIANS*
            icq: 8388924

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            • #7
              Have you started your game?
              No. It's against the nature of the game.
              We're having same discussion in multiple threads.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                do you meqan continual swapping of citys, or a one off swap just to get a foriegn civ on your contnenent so you can trwade with it easier... if latter i dont have aproblem, i seen it in nearly every gaem i palyed, whether it is for trade or just diplomacy people swap citys.. those citys can then be used for increased trade.. in our HOTW game you gave Mongols a city in South America surely this helped for trade, even if you gave it for other reasons..
                GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                • #9
                  Swapping cities for any reason is ridiculous.
                  " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                  "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                  • #10
                    You're not kidding ....geez...I don't play MP that much anymore but I thought we more or less had that one set in stone eons ago....guess not....I like certain wonders to be shared in freindly games(by agreement of course) but this is just silly.How long do turns take?Imagine when each has 30+ cities.
                    The only thing that matters to me in a MP game is getting a good ally.Nothing else is as important.......Xin Yu

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                    • #11
                      is this a practice that goes on, this continual swapping of citys.. you mean by this each turn swapping citys back and forth ,????

                      this shows that trade has become way too powerful in Civ 2 and thus people now find need to exploit this loophole...
                      GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                      • #12
                        you fools don't even know what it is, or how its implimented.


                        Basically diety got pissed because i swapped a city with bezerker in a huge game. Diety was ship chaining his ships and sending 5-10 caravans around the world every turn. I had no one close so i gave bezerker on the other side of the map a city of mine in exchange for one of his. diety with his basic understanding of trade was horrified that i had + 38 routes while his where +10. But really a 3-4,000 cash/science bonus for every caravan sent around through a ship chain does not match a caravan sent 10 squares that only gets 80 gold. I consider sending caravans to other civs cheating. I mean you basically have to do nothing but build caravans and ship chains and you can get to 3 techs a turn, and have a ton of money to buy all the wonders and units you need. Every big game i play in we ban sending caravans to other civs, because if 2 players starting close to each other know how to use trade 5 others combined don't stand a chance and i am not exagerating.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rasputin
                          is this a practice that goes on, this continual swapping of citys.. you mean by this each turn swapping citys back and forth ,????

                          this shows that trade has become way too powerful in Civ 2 and thus people now find need to exploit this loophole...
                          only an idiot would do that. You'd lose 50% your routes value + 50% the value of the routes of any city connected to it. oh and you lose all your happy improvements. Yes that sounds like a great idea.
                          Join the army, travel to foreign countries, meet exotic people -
                          and kill them!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by markusf
                            oh and you lose all your happy improvements.
                            didnt realise that occured actually, never noticed it before, i quite often demand city to be ceded to me for a peace treaty to be given during time of war, never had one of this go into riot due to lack of Happy improvements.. are you sure this true ?>??
                            GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                            • #15
                              using extra computers is ok

                              Gee I can remember when this was such a fun game to play.

                              All cheats should ban themselves and find another game to play. :banned:
                              The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

                              Hydey the no-limits man.

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